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Offline pocoloco

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Re: Sculpting Plains Indians
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2017, 07:58:26 PM »
Great to see new Native American minis take shape!

Hope to see a whole tribe soon enough :)

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Re: Sculpting Plains Indians
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2017, 08:06:10 PM »
Lovely sculpting! May also be worth contacting these other casters. Griffin Moulds is top-notch but there's also Schilling Figuren in Germany that offers a casting service might be worth checking them out to http://www.schilling-figuren.de/shop_content.php?coID=10

As you're probably based in Czech Republic you may also be interested in contacting Jan Kraal from Custom Made Miniatures as he also offers a moulding and casting service. http://www.custommademinis.com
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Re: Sculpting Plains Indians
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2017, 04:53:59 PM »
@Belgian: Thank you a lot for the links!

By the way: I have sculpted a second warrior:


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http://clearcominiatures.blogspot.com.es/2017/01/crow-warrior-2.html

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Re: Sculpting Plains Indians
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2017, 08:16:48 PM »
Again, lovely sculpting. I like this guy's stance, seems realistic to me. The position of the quiver looks wrong to me. I'm not an expert archer, actually I don't arch at all, but here are some videos where practical experts demonstrate use of a Plains quiver:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rflExvCCtOo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDLS99djRRY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugCJqOHDPpo
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Re: Sculpting Plains Indians
« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2017, 09:26:52 PM »
Thank you a lot for the comment  :)

I'm an archer myself since several years  ;) The guys in the videos show some ways of using A quiver, but not the only one and also not the "special"one on the plains. According to Thomas Mails and a lot of pictorical evidence, when Plains Indians use the bow for hunting or war they use to carry it very low, almost at the left hipe, so they would reach for the arrows crossing the body. It seems odd to us but I suposse it makes perfect sense if you shot with the arrows in the inner side of your hand instead of crossing them, European style...
I think the quiver in the mini should lay a bit more down though.
The second video is very interesting, I had never seen someone carrying the quiver on the front. Does he have any references for it?
« Last Edit: January 19, 2017, 10:25:20 PM by Clearco »

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Re: Sculpting Plains Indians
« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2017, 10:38:38 PM »
None of the fellows in the videos gives any references. I think most of them are bow hunters, experienced at taking game. They all seem to be demonstrating what works for them personally, and they show some very different techniques. It makes sense to me that you would use your quiver differently mounted or on foot. There are other vids I didn't link to that are also worth watching. I expect that your practical experience is worth more than my observations. I agree that the figure's quiver is too high. Quiver slung low on the left hip is one of the styles demonstrated, and it seems to me that would give a right-handed archer good access without getting in his way. In that case, the strap would go over his right shoulder.

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Re: Sculpting Plains Indians
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2017, 10:59:53 PM »
Yes, I think they speak more about personal preferences than about historical research or something like this, but is nevertheless very interesting.

Quote from: zippyfusenet link=top=96985.msg1204361#msg1204361 date=1484861918
In that case, the strap would go over his right shoulder.
You are completely right! I didnt think about that detail!!  :'( (You know, Im lefthanded and tend to make these kind of mistakes :?) I dont know if Im going to be able of fix it without causing a lot of damage  :'( :'( :'(
Thanks for noticing! I hope I can do something about it!

Edit: I have tried it with my quiver. It works that way, specially if the strap is long and flexible, like it was. After it I have checked some pictures and some warriors carry the quiver over the left shoulder, even in this lower position. Again other carry it over the right one. I think, having a quiver with no back or front side (tubular, or very flat) and a long strap enables this kind of variation.
« Last Edit: January 19, 2017, 11:23:13 PM by Clearco »

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Re: Sculpting Plains Indians
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2017, 09:26:59 AM »
Another lovely figure.  ;D

Not bothered about the quiver myself ;)
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Re: Sculpting Plains Indians
« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2017, 10:49:19 AM »
Great one. :-* :-*
The quiver looks fine to me.
It shows movement too. :)

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Re: Sculpting Plains Indians
« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2017, 04:28:20 PM »
I think these are excellent sculpts, certainly covering a tribe of the plains indians that do not get so much attention.  I would certainly buy some if they were commercially available.

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Re: Sculpting Plains Indians
« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2017, 07:40:36 PM »
Thank you for the nice comments!  :) :) :)
Working on more warriors right now  ;)

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Re: Sculpting Plains Indians
« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2017, 07:48:36 PM »
All very nice.  :-* IIRC The Revenant features Crows.  8)
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Re: Sculpting Plains Indians
« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2017, 06:42:14 PM »
Thank you Silent Invader  :)

Here is my third warrior:


Maybe when Im done with the first bunch Id redo the braids so they begin higher (as usual in the Northern Plains) and lenghten the quiver a bit, for it turned out too short IMO.

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http://clearcominiatures.blogspot.com.es/2017/01/crow-warrior-3.html

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Re: Sculpting Plains Indians
« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2017, 11:44:21 PM »
Another great sculp. :-* :-*
Any chance of photos from the back of the figures?

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Re: Sculpting Plains Indians
« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2017, 08:52:02 AM »
Of course!  :)




Normally I have more pics at the blog :-)


 

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