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Title: ROUND 2 To Boldly Go vs Von Blucher's Zeppelin Troopen
Post by: Captain Blood on April 27, 2009, 12:06:37 AM
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Title: Re: ROUND 2 To Boldly Go vs Von Blucher's Zeppelin Troopen
Post by: Malebolgia on April 27, 2009, 09:13:08 AM
Difficult one! Both are well matched. I voted for the first one. I like the diversity and colors and miniatures and of course it is Star Trek :D. In addition, the bases of the second one are a bit rough with the sand on the sides. It may be a small thing, but for me bases are very important for the total look of the picture.
Title: Re: ROUND 2 To Boldly Go vs Von Blucher's Zeppelin Troopen
Post by: dodge on April 27, 2009, 09:34:18 AM
I agree with the comments there my bases are usually done quickly and I need to spend more time on them, next round I have tried to sort out the sides better and feel that I have achieved a better effect.

Need to also work more on my photography skills as no matter what I seem to do they are out of focus, that too has improved over the weekend a bit,

read the recent thread which has helped as has the good cap'n.

Can't do much about the competition though, Keeper has completed a fine entry  :)

dodge
Title: Re: ROUND 2 To Boldly Go vs Von Blucher's Zeppelin Troopen
Post by: keeper on April 27, 2009, 10:37:30 AM
Thanks dodge.  Got to say you're chaps are pretty fine too.  A kindly gent on this board passed onto me some sky pirates a little while ago, and I've been agonising what colours to paint them.  I think I'm now settled on claret and sky blue - thanks, dodge! :)

On the subject of bases, I can strongly recommend the run-a-finger-round-the-edge-of-the-base-after-dipping-in-sand-technique. Both lazy and effective! :)  I should probably also mention my supplier of fine gravel that I used on these chaps, too - Mad Carew Jnr - thank's sir!
Title: Re: ROUND 2 To Boldly Go vs Von Blucher's Zeppelin Troopen
Post by: dodge on April 27, 2009, 03:04:26 PM
Thanks dodge.  Got to say you're chaps are pretty fine too.  A kindly gent on this board passed onto me some sky pirates a little while ago, and I've been agonising what colours to paint them.  I think I'm now settled on claret and sky blue - thanks, dodge! :)

On the subject of bases, I can strongly recommend the run-a-finger-round-the-edge-of-the-base-after-dipping-in-sand-technique. Both lazy and effective! :)  I should probably also mention my supplier of fine gravel that I used on these chaps, too - Mad Carew Jnr - thank's sir!

The uniform I used was field blue darkened with black for shade and highlighted gradually with white for highlights. You could use the GW space wolves combo's though Shadow grey , space wolf grey.

For the caps belts straps and gloves I used tamyia hull red, then gw scab red then gw new red wash baal red?

nice result comes out.

On the bases front I have started to run my finger round and then paint the edge so that is a step in the right direction. Need to think of some other little touches though or base slightly differently.

Round 4 will be something different for me if I get it done, but it seems that I have lost my imagination when it comes to colour schemes. Never mind there is still time  :)

dodge
Title: Re: ROUND 2 To Boldly Go vs Von Blucher's Zeppelin Troopen
Post by: Captain Blood on April 27, 2009, 10:57:59 PM
Oooooh, this one's in the balance...   ;)
Title: Re: ROUND 2 To Boldly Go vs Von Blucher's Zeppelin Troopen
Post by: dodge on April 28, 2009, 09:18:56 AM
Could be a draw the way things are looking, :) ( that's probably torn it now  :()

Not a particular popular match though judging by the level of comments hitting the other round posts so possibly a 0-0 draw with nice build up play but no real attacking opportunities.  ::)

that's not really how I see it though as I am developing a nice level of ocd about looking to see how the voting is going  ::)

dodge

Title: Re: ROUND 2 To Boldly Go vs Von Blucher's Zeppelin Troopen
Post by: Plynkes on April 28, 2009, 09:21:23 AM
A 0-0 draw, eh? So are those Villa Zeppelin Truppen or West Ham Zeppelin Truppen?  :)
Title: Re: ROUND 2 To Boldly Go vs Von Blucher's Zeppelin Troopen
Post by: keeper on April 28, 2009, 10:11:40 AM
that's not really how I see it though as I am developing a nice level of ocd about looking to see how the voting is going  ::)

You too? :D  I would wager that everyone who has entered is doing exactly the same :)
Title: Re: ROUND 2 To Boldly Go vs Von Blucher's Zeppelin Troopen
Post by: dodge on April 28, 2009, 10:30:47 AM
A 0-0 draw, eh? So are those Villa Zeppelin Truppen or West Ham Zeppelin Truppen?  :)

Well we could have those but I was thinking more of Burnley, they still play in that colour don't they.

or Scunthorpe? I like the sound of that you know Scunthorpe  :D

Villa and West Ham are all likely to score goals nowadays aren't they.

Keeper - saw your post then scrolled up to check again aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh  o_o

dodge
Title: Re: ROUND 2 To Boldly Go vs Von Blucher's Zeppelin Troopen
Post by: Mad Carew Snr on April 28, 2009, 10:46:01 AM
Nice work gentlemen - I'm a closet Trekie so I'm swinging that way

As the nice man said PM me for SAND and FINE GRAVEL at rock bottom prices
Title: Re: ROUND 2 To Boldly Go vs Von Blucher's Zeppelin Troopen
Post by: keeper on April 28, 2009, 10:50:36 AM
Scunthorpe - a fine northern team :D  I remember when they played Chelsea in the FA cup a couple of years ago and actually went 1-0 up before losing :)

Unfotunately my entry this week looks more like several people pulled out of a sci-fi convention at the point of a phaser and forced to play five-a-side!  Good job it isn't really a football contest!!

@Mad Carew Snr: Nice subtle advert there, J. ;) But I like the pun!
Title: Re: ROUND 2 To Boldly Go vs Von Blucher's Zeppelin Troopen
Post by: Mad Carew Snr on April 28, 2009, 10:53:39 AM
Was I too subtle?
Nice Trekie Away-Team D!
Title: Re: ROUND 2 To Boldly Go vs Von Blucher's Zeppelin Troopen
Post by: dodge on April 28, 2009, 10:58:33 AM
Was I too subtle?
Nice Trekie Away-Team D!

I think you were too subtle , I missed it could you say that again  lol

Title: Re: ROUND 2 To Boldly Go vs Von Blucher's Zeppelin Troopen
Post by: Orctrader on April 28, 2009, 12:31:47 PM
Difficult to choose as I like them both equally...

Need to also work more on my photography skills as no matter what I seem to do they are out of focus...

If you haven't tried this yet...Once the group is posed try some shots with and without Macro on.  With Macro OFF you might need to pull back a little.  (I find if I take a group shot with Macro on there is often a focus issue unless - check my photos - I line up the figures so the camera just can't focus on one figure.  If you see my photos where there are figures in foreground and bacjground and they are all in focus - I didn't use Macro.
Title: Re: ROUND 2 To Boldly Go vs Von Blucher's Zeppelin Troopen
Post by: dodge on April 28, 2009, 12:42:43 PM
Difficult to choose as I like them both equally...

Need to also work more on my photography skills as no matter what I seem to do they are out of focus...

If you haven't tried this yet...Once the group is posed try some shots with and without Macro on.  With Macro OFF you might need to pull back a little.  (I find if I take a group shot with Macro on there is often a focus issue unless - check my photos - I line up the figures so the camera just can't focus on one figure.  If you see my photos where there are figures in foreground and bacjground and they are all in focus - I didn't use Macro.

I have but not properly or seriously, had a quick dabble and got annoyed ( that's how it gets me)

I have found that adjusting white balance works and using super macro is a bad idea

so the next round is taken in natural daylight, with macro.

the last two photo's on my blog have been done messing about with poses and white balance, have a look and tell me what you think.

Need to spend a bit more time and buy a tripod too I think ( a cheap one) or nab the one from work.


dodge
Title: Re: ROUND 2 To Boldly Go vs Von Blucher's Zeppelin Troopen
Post by: Captain Blood on April 28, 2009, 01:02:06 PM
I bought a mini tripod from a camera shop for about a fiver. Actually I rarely use it though, mainly because I prefer 'ground level' shots of the minis rather than shots from above.  :?
Title: Re: ROUND 2 To Boldly Go vs Von Blucher's Zeppelin Troopen
Post by: Plynkes on April 28, 2009, 01:04:30 PM
There's nothing called 'Macro' on the camera I use. I'm always puzzled when folks talk about that, as I've no idea what it is!   ???

I've got this mode called Aperture Value (Av). You set the aperture to the value you want and the camera figures out the exposure time required to get a good shot for the light level automatically. Takes quite nice shots even without fancy lighting. Crank it up about three quarters of the way and everything in the foreground will be in focus, with the background nicely blurred so as to direct the eye to the figures. Crank it up to full and every damn thing in the shot will be in focus. It's great for group shots, and avoids that thing where the camera wants to focus on just one guy, and you can't get it to pay attention to the rest of them. It's no good without a tripod and a timer (or remote) though: Blurry camera shake city.

It has made my LPL life much easier, as I'm a total photography novice. Reading that little book that came with the camera really payed off there!  :)
Title: Re: ROUND 2 To Boldly Go vs Von Blucher's Zeppelin Troopen
Post by: Orctrader on April 28, 2009, 01:46:36 PM
I have found that adjusting white balance works and using super macro is a bad idea

so the next round is taken in natural daylight, with macro.

the last two photo's on my blog have been done messing about with poses and white balance, have a look and tell me what you think.

Need to spend a bit more time and buy a tripod too I think ( a cheap one) or nab the one from work.


dodge


The two photos look good - but the figures on the back row are still slightly out of focus.  This is because the camera is focusing on the nearest object(s)  Next time you are "experimenting" try the same settings with the figures lined up - bases touching.  If only to see how the photo turns out.  :)

Title: Re: ROUND 2 To Boldly Go vs Von Blucher's Zeppelin Troopen
Post by: keeper on April 28, 2009, 01:52:57 PM
There's nothing called 'Macro' on the camera I use. I'm always puzzled when folks talk about that, as I've no idea what it is!   ???

Sometimes it is just shown as a little tulip symbol (or it might be another flower - I'm not good at flowers).  But it sounds like you don't need it anyway! :)
Title: Re: ROUND 2 To Boldly Go vs Von Blucher's Zeppelin Troopen
Post by: dodge on April 28, 2009, 02:06:18 PM
There's nothing called 'Macro' on the camera I use. I'm always puzzled when folks talk about that, as I've no idea what it is!   ???

Sometimes it is just shown as a little tulip symbol (or it might be another flower - I'm not good at flowers).  But it sounds like you don't need it anyway! :)

Yup it's a tulip.

I was talking to a guy I work with and he talked about AV, can't find that on my camera so maybe thats what this macro stuff is all about maybe AV and macro settings are similar but different who knows I'm a point , push oh damn they aren't in focus sort of guy.

Cap'n - I like taking ground shots too, so I would lower the triopd to meet that requirement I think , butthe that's tricky to do with a mini one I guess.  :?

OT -  I will do that I think all line up shots are much better, I think I will stop trying to do those crowd of mini shots.

dodge
Title: Re: ROUND 2 To Boldly Go vs Von Blucher's Zeppelin Troopen
Post by: Le matou rouge on April 28, 2009, 07:37:59 PM
Close one in painting, so the choice of miniatures made the difference and I think these Zeppelin troopen are the best idea (and almost the best scuplts too) Bob Murch had for Pulp, so they got my vote.

meow,
Matt   
Title: Re: ROUND 2 To Boldly Go vs Von Blucher's Zeppelin Troopen
Post by: dodge on April 29, 2009, 09:44:25 AM
Cor this match is turning into a real ding now  ;D

Title: Re: ROUND 2 To Boldly Go vs Von Blucher's Zeppelin Troopen
Post by: Raz on April 29, 2009, 09:55:45 AM
And the tension is rising... *dumdumdumdum...* :)

Still a perfect tie with this amount of votes, wow!
Title: Re: ROUND 2 To Boldly Go vs Von Blucher's Zeppelin Troopen
Post by: keeper on May 11, 2009, 05:19:21 PM
So close, but lost by a pinch :)  Well done, Dodge! :D
Title: Re: ROUND 2 To Boldly Go vs Von Blucher's Zeppelin Troopen
Post by: dodge on May 11, 2009, 09:10:27 PM
So close, but lost by a pinch :)  Well done, Dodge! :D

Thanks keeper, but there was nothing in it, should have been a draw  :)

Getting my butt whipped this round though  :: lol
Title: Re: ROUND 2 To Boldly Go vs Von Blucher's Zeppelin Troopen
Post by: warbeads on May 11, 2009, 09:19:53 PM
Still new to this forum stuff  :?  - how do I vote?  ???
Title: Re: ROUND 2 To Boldly Go vs Von Blucher's Zeppelin Troopen
Post by: dodge on May 11, 2009, 09:26:12 PM
Still new to this forum stuff  :?  - how do I vote?  ???

Round 2 voting has finished so go to lead painters league and pick each round 3 thread and then click the box you think is best.

welcome by the way  :D

dodge
Title: Re: ROUND 2 To Boldly Go vs Von Blucher's Zeppelin Troopen
Post by: keeper on May 12, 2009, 01:24:40 PM
Getting my butt whipped this round though  :: lol

Yeah, I know that feeling lol

@warbeads: Welcome to the forum :)  Now go and find the entries by dodge and keeper in round 3 and vote for us! ;)
Title: Re: ROUND 2 To Boldly Go vs Von Blucher's Zeppelin Troopen
Post by: dodge on May 12, 2009, 02:28:49 PM
Getting my butt whipped this round though  :: lol

Yeah, I know that feeling lol

@warbeads: Welcome to the forum :)  Now go and find the entries by dodge and keeper in round 3 and vote for us! ;)

 lol