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Re: Shogun remake
« Reply #60 on: April 29, 2024, 11:22:43 AM »
It wasn’t a flashback, apparently it was him daydreaming about the future.

I got that, but when it first cropped up, I was wondering where the hell they were going, I know he never goes home, so I wondered if they were doing some Hollywood happy ending. I'm sure the nuance of that daydream was lost on many and I'm not really sure what it added to the story, we know he wants to go home, he says it frequently. just an odd addition.

Cosmo Jarvis was superb though.

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Re: Shogun remake
« Reply #61 on: April 29, 2024, 01:36:05 PM »
Yes, I don’t think it was necessary either and Cosmo was surprisingly excellent.
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Re: Shogun remake
« Reply #62 on: April 29, 2024, 07:03:56 PM »
It wasn’t a flashback, apparently it was him daydreaming about the future.

I would certainly like a season 2 but I seriously doubt it.

It's Blackthorne wanting to go home, imagining what it would be like, and the overwhelming regret he would feel if he did it.

I think it's there to show why he changes his mind and re-engages.  He's looked on the potential future where he didn't support Toranaga, and didn't like it.

It's why he lets Mariko's cross drop into the ocean in the end, he's at peace with his actions whereas in his dream he was not.
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Re: Shogun remake
« Reply #63 on: April 29, 2024, 08:01:23 PM »
Can't really remember the book as I read it so long ago and wasn't wholly keen on the original so I'm happy to disconnect from them. Watching shows like this is generally more about 'world building' for me than anything else but I thought the cast was very well chosen and would like to see more of them (well, the ones that are left  lol ).
The second book in clavels row is350 years later, so it builds a new world. The original end was well fitting to the story, let it untouched by Hollywood pimps and poser. They have a lot of stuff to kill, not this one…
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Re: Shogun remake
« Reply #64 on: April 29, 2024, 08:40:58 PM »
let it untouched by Hollywood pimps and poser. They have a lot of stuff to kill, not this one…

Wasn't Hollywood  ;D ;)

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Re: Shogun remake
« Reply #65 on: April 29, 2024, 08:54:24 PM »
Wasn't Hollywood  ;D ;)
The world is full of pimps and posers I‘m afraid. I expect Star Wars with singing Stormtroopers and Rebels as next from Disney. And Star Trek as a daily soap…

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Re: Shogun remake
« Reply #66 on: April 29, 2024, 09:48:50 PM »
I expect Star Wars with singing Stormtroopers and Rebels as next from Disney.

Disney is already wicked late to that party.  There is another Star Wars TV spcial...
 
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Re: Shogun remake
« Reply #67 on: April 30, 2024, 08:39:21 AM »
I liked the new series very much, the only "thing" I noticed was that the time that passed from the shipwreck until the "dream/omen" is not well explained or pointed out.
If I remember the book correctly, the story lasts about a couple of years.

In the serie it seems (to me?) that he goes from completely barbarian to a japanese speaking hatamoto in few weeks/a couple of months... all the book is about the preparation to the Sekigahara battle, and that takes a lot of time and intrigues.

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Re: Shogun remake
« Reply #69 on: May 11, 2024, 06:39:29 AM »
Yes, saw that an hour or so ago. If it’s the same team that did season one then I’m hopeful that it’ll be good.

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Re: Shogun remake
« Reply #70 on: May 11, 2024, 01:51:00 PM »
Season 2…

https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/shogun-nears-season-2-renewal-hiroyuki-sanada-signs-deal-1235998746/
Not really neccessary. The story ends after season 1 like the book, so for what is this season 2???

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Re: Shogun remake
« Reply #71 on: May 11, 2024, 01:56:27 PM »
Clavell did write a sort of sequel called Gai-Jin  ;D

Honestly Dirk, if it brings more of this sort of thing to the ‘mainstream’ then that’s a good thing.

And stop bloody moaning  lol

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Re: Shogun remake
« Reply #72 on: May 11, 2024, 03:29:17 PM »
When did 'not really necessary' have anything to do with making money?  ;)

That said, if it is well done as the first who cares?

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Re: Shogun remake
« Reply #73 on: May 11, 2024, 06:36:21 PM »
Clavell did write a sort of sequel called Gai-Jin  ;D
Gai Jin is a setting in 1862 and is a story about the end of the shogun-Empire….

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Re: Shogun remake
« Reply #74 on: May 11, 2024, 07:48:44 PM »
Hence 'sort of'  :P

 

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