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Miniatures Adventure => VSF Adventures => Topic started by: Lupus on March 09, 2010, 03:22:42 PM
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Okay was hunting through my list of mini's last night and found these.
(http://store.rackham-e.com/sites/default/files/catalog/1/c/1c_RBTA04_DRAGOMIROV_1.jpg)
Was thinking about repainting them for my Japanese VSF force..
Might need to swap out the rocket launcher arm, i think the right arm are flamer's of some sort??
Add a smoke stack as well and should be away..
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Yeah, could work easily. :)
I'd actually give VSF Japanese quite low-tech feeling automata rather than fine tuned ones. Just my opinion though of course!
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Actually those are rapid fire guns IIRC perhaps coil guns judging by the shape.
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I'd tech em up a bit (watching Gundam, an' all).
I do like those a lot, are they from AT43?
cheers
James
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Go for it, they have a very good basic design that should modify well.
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I'd tech em up a bit (watching Gundam, an' all).
I do like those a lot, are they from AT43?
cheers
James
Yes mate they are from the Red Blok range i ahve a lot of the AT-43 stuff from work i've done for R..
I think i'll add a smoke stack and a few extra tubes for steam etc and see how i go..
Only going to do one to start with and see how it goes from there.
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My main area of concern would be what goes at the end of the arms. I think that could be the crucial area, and decide if it really has the VSF 'feel'.
Yes thats my concern as well i wonder if i should change them to something else..Very open to suggestions on that as well.
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You could consider a spar torpedo....which would explain the heavy armour of the operator. He'd probably be quite keen to survive the blast.
Spar Torpedo now there's an idea so were talking a long pole with the torpedo at the end..
And the box on the end of the left arm could be easily converted to a quick firing pop-pom?
That's an idea i was hinking of putting a Maxim or something there. I could easyly remove a single barrel with no issue.
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These do look like being an excellent project. Perhaps the end of an arm needs something basic and grabby? It's a fine line though before it looks Ork!
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I agree on both, a spar torpedo carried in a hand like contraption should look good.
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Whatever you do - you will need more rivets. ;)
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Whatever you do - you will need more rivets. ;)
You can never have too many rivets! :)
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Whatever you do - you will need more rivets. ;)
More rivets i'm sure i can do that..
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Perhaps a touch of armour plate like the Samurai ? Bit like putting tiles on a roof (idividual squares/rectangles overlaping each other)
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very good idea, that chantyam. Its easy to do and very recognizable. While you’re at it perhaps some of those “horns” that some samurai have on their foreheads? And if your good at freehand you could paint on oni faces, but that might be a bit to much. :D
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Do it in the style of 'Super Kabuki', that'd look great :D
cheers
James
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Thats a good idea i had planned on doing the old Samurai Style Shoulder Guards but i reackon i could do some other bits as well.
Going to grab these from club this evening and see what steps to make i've decided the barrel weapons with me 3 shot pom pom's so they don't over power it..But as i think i've got 3 of them i can do different things with each one :D
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No i know what your thinking chap and i plan to just have a play around with them first see what i like and don't :D
Though i am finding it hard to reign in the idea to go so OTT lol
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Okay cracked open one of these yesterday in between keeping the kids from driving my wife insane.
Found a very old Adeptus Mechanicus arm which is for the left hand so going to pop the weapons off and swap the barrel's over to the right.
As for Rivets what,s the best way to go about adding more as the body is so smooth it'll not fit in.
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Imagine what parts might have been cast and then rivet those together, they don't have to be on every part.
cheers
James
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Imagine what parts might have been cast and then rivet those together, they don't have to be on every part.
cheers
James
That's my plan but more wondering what to use for the rivets as i don't want them to be overly big..
I've seen people push through the plastic to get the effect but i can't really do that with these.
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If you can find plastic coctail sticks that are round or wooden tooth picks-take a sharp hobby knife and make thin cuts through the middle sections(you can use about half the stick before it begings to taper out to be too narrow . You will get quite a few "rivets" that you can attach with a good glue.
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Good god that sounds fiddly!
Sounding good lupus, I like the idea of it being a diving suit, but I really want to see the samurai-esque one! :D
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If you can find plastic coctail sticks that are round or wooden tooth picks-take a sharp hobby knife and make thin cuts through the middle sections(you can use about half the stick before it begings to taper out to be too narrow . You will get quite a few "rivets" that you can attach with a good glue.
Same idea really but use thin plastic rod. Use a really sharp knife with a good point to pick up the cut off slices and to put in place. Not sure what the plastic is like on these models but I imagine super glue will work best. Pour out a small blob on to an old blister pack and then use a cocktail stick to put spots of glue where you want the rivets. I find that if you do them in, say, batches of five you can pick up and attached five rivets before the super glue sets.
Thats how I done the rivets on this
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=11904.msg136657#msg136657 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=11904.msg136657#msg136657)
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Cocktail sticks now thats an idea i have a Sainsburys near me at work i might go for a wander at lunch time.
Here's some piccies to show what i've done so far not much i know but it was the rivet element that is going to take me a long old while.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/lupusmw/101_4038.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/lupusmw/101_4037.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/lupusmw/101_4036.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/lupusmw/101_4035.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/lupusmw/101_4034.jpg
I need to work out how to put some sort of a ring around the smoke stack which should be fun as me and any modelling putty don't mix :D
@Gamer mac the plastic is pretty hard to be honest i'd say more solid than GW plastic and thanks for the link as well.
@Rob after i have done number 1 i feel i may need another with a big sword so might go full on Samurai looking for that :D
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I'm tempted to say that the material used is a hard vinyl, as with most pre-painted toys. Superglue'll be fine on them. I'd recommend thin plastic rod aswell, cocktail sticks might splinter when cutting them into discs and you might spend more time trying to cut decent ones rather than sticking them on.
cheers
James
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Yeah could well be there jimbibbly.
Well i just sat and cut a few matchsticks up i have a ling bladed knife that's great for these sorts of things though its still going to take me a while to do all i need. I might be forced to cut back on the amount of rivets i was thinking on. I guess i'll see when i start adding them :D
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Yeah, I'd try rods of plasticard. I think I'll be doing that...
Good start Jez! Is that hand from an old HAVOK miniature? I have loads of them. Used to buy them when I was young! Wouldn't catch me hacking them up though. ;D
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Yeah, I'd try rods of plasticard. I think I'll be doing that...
Good start Jez! Is that hand from an old HAVOK miniature? I have loads of them. Used to buy them when I was young! Wouldn't catch me hacking them up though. ;D
No mate the hand is from a Adeptus Titacus Titan that's been in my bits box forever..I have a pile of the weapons as well. Plan on using some for the 3rd one as Maxim's or something so that i have an Anti Infantry style Walker.
I might look about for plastic rod as well but as i have no where near i'll have to see if i can source online which gets expensive if you need a small amount.
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Would Antenociti's workshop not send you something if you emailed them specifically?
Ahhh, Warlord Titan. I got confused when you said adeptus mechanicus... ;D
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Cocktail sticks now thats an idea i have a Sainsburys near me at work i might go for a wander at lunch time.
Here's some piccies to show what i've done so far not much i know but it was the rivet element that is going to take me a long old while.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/lupusmw/101_4038.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/lupusmw/101_4037.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/lupusmw/101_4036.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/lupusmw/101_4035.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/lupusmw/101_4034.jpg
I need to work out how to put some sort of a ring around the smoke stack which should be fun as me and any modelling putty don't mix :D
@Gamer mac the plastic is pretty hard to be honest i'd say more solid than GW plastic and thanks for the link as well.
@Rob after i have done number 1 i feel i may need another with a big sword so might go full on Samurai looking for that :D
Oh my, these are really looking good!
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Would Antenociti's workshop not send you something if you emailed them specifically?
Ahhh, Warlord Titan. I got confused when you said adeptus mechanicus... ;D
Yeah Jed would sort me out but i just have this feeling that if this goes right it'll be me needing so many more :D
Yeah Warlord Titan buts it from the original box set that GW did.
@ushistoryprof. Glad your enjoying the piccies mate.
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Just to throw in an alternative and cheap method. The silver rivets on the below model are 2mm domed rivets made by drilling a tiny hole and inserting the top end of a pin. The pins are dress making pins bought from sainsbury's.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2745/4330613769_8539759762.jpg)
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And very good they look too!!!
So many options! ;D
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If you can, have a look in GW's modeling masterclass, they use a similar method to Dewbakuk but use the small balls from a brita filter. Same result though.
cheers
James
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Is that the new book from Forge World?
Looks brilliant, but far beyond my price region!
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Yeah pins have been suggested before i'm going to sit at lunchtime and see if the epoxy route suggested works for me. If not i know my wife ahs thousands of pins for her curtain making i'm sure she won't notice :D
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Okay I managed to get what 10 minutes at lunchtime to try the epoxy method. Its fine I'm using a cocktail stick with a bit cut off to the size i sort of want.
The thing is having to turn the stick so any extra epoxy doesn't end up like some think strand across the model. I've managed to do one side and have the rest of the model left to do.
I'd do piccies but hell its hard to see anything with a light background it'll show up okay once painted I hope.
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So it does work then?
Perhaps I'll practise on some spare plasticard...
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Is that the new book from Forge World?
Looks brilliant, but far beyond my price region!
It's actually a very good book with some proper modeling techniques in it and of course it is full colour glossy. Not bad really for £30 (got my juices flowing)
cheers
James
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So it does work then?
Perhaps I'll practise on some spare plasticard...
Yes it does i did practice on a spare CD i have first so that i got the cocktail stick the right size.
Once i've done it i'll get it undercoated so then people might be able to see it. Unsure of colour at the moment i'm thinking Blue as its the colous of the period ut i'm also wondering if Khaki might be better..
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It's actually a very good book with some proper modeling techniques in it and of course it is full colour glossy. Not bad really for £30 (got my juices flowing)
cheers
James
Sounds good to me...
Maybe I'll get it at salute. Or afterwards. We'll see.
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Hi Rob,
I would also recommend the GW Masterclass book. A great read - loads of eye-candy but also lots and lots of good (and well illustrated) hints and tips.
Tony
http://dampfpanzerwagon.blogspot.com/