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Title: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: zemjw on August 02, 2017, 03:40:04 PM
Bones 4 available on kickstarter - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1513061270/reaper-miniatures-bones-4-mr-bones-epic-adventure

$100 seems to be the base level pledge

Already 20x funded  o_o

Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: beefcake on August 02, 2017, 08:51:36 PM
I'm just getting in on this so that I can give my kids a bunch of miniatures to paint (and keep a good few myself) It's great for the little ones to practice painting with and have some minis of their own that don't break the bank as mine are always asking for more things to paint and it gets expensive!
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: Elbows on August 02, 2017, 11:21:05 PM
$680K without being through the first day.  That's gotta be record territory. 
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: beefcake on August 03, 2017, 01:47:54 AM
It's at about 70 minis for $100 which is good value already (except that you probably only want half of them, and of that half, you only need a quarter of that). The add-ons are a big draw in as they are usually a much better deal than buying new after the KS. Still can't beleive that Froghemoth from Bones 3 was only $10. It is HUGE!
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: Duncan McDane on August 03, 2017, 09:55:19 AM
Some nice smaller sculpts but as Beefcake says, good to have the children have a go at them. Last Bones I only did a bit of cherrypicking on the big guys and I probably will do that again, only this time slightly more than a bit  lol.
The human sized-stuff I really want I'll pick up in metal eventuallly.
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: beefcake on August 03, 2017, 10:04:03 AM
Some of the human sized things I only picked out to use as statues  lol
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: Duncan McDane on August 03, 2017, 10:17:52 AM
Actually a very good idea... Mmm, might have to consider a basic pledge too, as those wraiths would do nicely as scenery on a graveyard.
Probably will have to cut the weapons away, but they are bent anyway, so no loss there... :)
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: ced1106 on August 03, 2017, 11:43:37 AM
30 goblins for KoW should be useful. Could even use the pig as a mount.

Also, that dragon is... tall.  ::)

$12 for 18 paints is a good deal. Waiting on the mouslings!
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 04, 2017, 02:28:20 AM
The pig & cart is one of the few things I want. I hope it will be available individualy. Otherwise, I'm a little disappointed with the selection of figures this time around. Hoping more interesting stuff is yet to come.
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: Nord on August 04, 2017, 08:49:18 AM
Like some of the trolls and other bigger figures. But....February 2019.  o_o
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: ced1106 on August 05, 2017, 12:23:39 AM
What? You'll paint all the other miniatures in your painting queue in only two years?  lol

The huge griffon will be in the Core set, not to mention the even huger dragon that's already there.

Reaper mostly sells its bones as singles, except for three-packs of "low level" monsters like skeletons. A FLGS can't stock all of the Bones line, so, for the more unusual figures, expect to pay MSRP and/or shipping from the OLGS or Reaper store.
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: beefcake on August 05, 2017, 02:01:51 AM
To be honest I'm not a huge fan of the big dragon. But by the time it is out my kids should be better at painting and they will want it for them which I'm happy with. It will also distract from any big things I get for myself.
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: Lawful Evil on August 06, 2017, 12:53:41 AM
I'm a little disappointed with the selection of figures this time around. Hoping more interesting stuff is yet to come.

Likewise. I'm happy to spend up big, but I'm still waiting for something that really interests me.
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 06, 2017, 04:17:13 AM
Starting to look better. I like the looks of the griffin, wyvern and especially the dragon turtle. Unfortunately I have no use for any of them.

The skeletal monsters, on the other hand, I do have a use for. And I can buy those a la carte.
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: killshot on August 06, 2017, 04:37:48 AM
There's some interesting items in there, but I'm not a fan of their plastics.  Too bendy, guess I'm a miniature snob!
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 06, 2017, 06:20:27 AM
From my experience, I think it's a matter of acknowledging the limitations of the bendy-Bones material, and working with it in a manner that works with its characteristics when it's suitable, or avoiding it when it's not.

It's really hard to beat the value on large, or even some of the medium sized figures -- even if you have to replace some thin components (like bendy weapons, etc.)

So I've been thrilled with the frog demon, fire giantess, the big orc bodies (replaced some of the bendy weapons) and such. But when I wanted to get the jabberwock, I opted for metal because I didn't want those long thin limbs in Bones material. On the other hand, I'm looking forward to the just-received Goremaw figure, especially since it's such a big, blobby mini.

The jury is still out on human sized figures, for me.  ;)
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: Duncan McDane on August 06, 2017, 09:35:54 AM
Yeah, pretty happy with most of my cherry-pickingsfrom Bones 3. Big guys can be bought safely, although that frost Giant King ( digiculpt ) really is sub-par. No detail whatsoever on the beard, looks like a cheap Poundland toy  :?.
But I doubted the design already, it's not so much the material, it should have been reworked before being released imho.
Hope the skeletal design will hold up, because that indeed is a must.
Overall I'm happy with Bones and will probably buy loads & loads more.
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: beefcake on August 06, 2017, 10:21:46 AM
It sure beats paying for a large monster in resin for 10x the price. Sure the detail won't be as crisp but for me a bit more detail on huge monsters vs cheaper cost, the cost will win out every time.
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: boneio on August 06, 2017, 04:52:12 PM
In contrast to many, this is the first bones kickstarter I've had the chance to back and there is little in the core set so far that I couldn't make use of. Waiting until 2019 is a bit rich though, means I risk forgetting what's coming and buying things from other manufacturers that duplicate the bones!
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: Neotacha on August 06, 2017, 08:40:54 PM
I think I'll just wait for the pig and cart to be available at the local B&M store.  There was really relatively little in that KS that spoke to me at all.
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: fred on August 06, 2017, 10:36:04 PM
Waiting until 2019 is a bit rich though, means I risk forgetting what's coming and buying things from other manufacturers that duplicate the bones!

At least they are being realistic - I only received Bones 3 models a few weeks ago, almost exactly 2 years after the KS.  But having received the stuff now, a lot of my interests have moved on from when I ordered them.

Its the big stuff that is most tempting to me, probably as it is so cheap.
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: boneio on August 06, 2017, 10:43:13 PM
But having received the stuff now, a lot of my interests have moved on from when I ordered them.
That is what worries me. But I do paint glacially slowly so worst case I will sell on anything I think I'll never paint up.
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: beefcake on August 07, 2017, 04:08:44 AM
And then you easily make back what you paid for it.
My Bones 1 paid itself off and left me with a bunch of nice stuff. Bones 2 I picked doubles of what I wanted and sold the extras off and made a good amount back (not all though)
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 07, 2017, 04:52:33 AM
I started to consider that, but then all of the selling & packing & such seemed like enough time & effort to cancel out any cost benefit.  o_o
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: Kegluneq on August 07, 2017, 02:03:07 PM
I have backed all the bones kickstarters.  My reason for backing numbers 2, 3, and now 4 are different from the reason I initially backed kickstarter 1.

My friends have kids.  Kids are rough on miniatures.  Bones cannot be broken or even really damaged by kids.  They take paint well, and between the low cost and the durable material I don't have that moment of panic when one gets knocked off of the table.

I have nicer miniatures for me.  For raising the next generation of gamers, bones are fantastic.
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: ced1106 on August 11, 2017, 08:14:51 AM
Preview teaser shows some larger miniatures, including the Tree of Despair from the failed CROM KS. The only add-on I've added is paints, so I'm waiting more stuff as well.

Someone posted a link to a resin frogemoth they paid $50 for. Glad I got my Reaper one for $10.

It took Reaper two years to fulfill Bones III, and Reaper said that 1.5 years to 2 years was the timeline they think they could fulfill this project.

Reaper will be selling subsets of its core miniatures (at slightly higher prices) so there's that option.

Might just check two weeks later and see what they're offering in the last week. Watch out for your wallet!
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: Calimero on August 17, 2017, 12:01:01 AM

Some of the mythos expansion set figures were made with a grey plastic that looked slightly harder and less rubbery than the usual Bone's material... it could be a good thing to use this plastic :D
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: Anselm van Helsing on August 19, 2017, 10:11:28 AM
Some of the mythos expansion set figures were made with a grey plastic that looked slightly harder and less rubbery than the usual Bone's material... it could be a good thing to use this plastic :D

This caught my eye too with the Mythos figures. Looks like they have done some product development.

Their Bones 1 and 2 were problematic for detailed humanoid models under 30mm tall. The present kickstarter has plenty of these small guys, goblins and kobolds, and I think they would do a lot better with a slightly harder medium. Still a problem with spears at least.

But that Dreadmere Expansion set, and their trolls and cave dwellers and crocodiles and beasts and such... Sooo tempted. Will likely buy in at around 1.5k. Hope the Dreadmere set keeps growing even after the third addition.
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: The Gray Ghost on August 19, 2017, 03:08:29 PM
I like the Dreadmere stuff and the pig pulling a cart, otherwise I'm not to fond of plastics.
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: Sir Barnaby Hammond-Rye on August 19, 2017, 04:03:49 PM
They are being cautious (or realistic?) about delivery times: Wave 10 is now Feb 2019!

The last KS I backed, but only for the minimum amount. By the time it arrived I didn't remember anything about what it included, nor why I had backed it.
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: FramFramson on August 19, 2017, 05:28:44 PM
The rowboat looks great, but not much else in it interests me at the moment.
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: Calimero on August 19, 2017, 05:40:27 PM
...

Their Bones 1 and 2 were problematic for detailed humanoid models under 30mm tall. The present kickstarter has plenty of these small guys, goblins and kobolds, and I think they would do a lot better with a slightly harder medium. Still a problem with spears at least.

...

In the Bones I and II KS, I thought that small figures like goblins, kobolds, Halflings and dwarves look better than human sized figures…
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: Anselm van Helsing on August 19, 2017, 07:19:12 PM
I think their details and things like hair are more muddled than those of the bigger figures.

But it's not universal, like x being all like this and y all like that. Just a tendency I think is visible.

The bigger than human models I think are very good.
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: ced1106 on August 19, 2017, 08:08:31 PM
Livestream show off several model prototypes. Definitely worth watching. Bad for the wallet.  lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8-lU9NEMR8&feature=youtu.be

Livestream pics on Reaper thread:
http://forum.reapermini.com/index.php?/topic/75913-reaper-bones-4-enthusiasm-and-commentary-thread/&page=285

(http://forum.reapermini.com/uploads/monthly_2017_08/59987c55ef3dc_ReaperDanceofDeathLarger.thumb.jpg.3e011e21985e1cb41230c9a37f2c1a9c.jpg)
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: nic-e on August 19, 2017, 10:49:52 PM
I really want the rowboat and the land terrapin.

In fact I want several of the land terrapin.
In fact, I want a trade caravan of land terrapins around a large sea turtle village.
In fact, Forget the miniatures, Someone get me some turtles!
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: Hobby Services on August 19, 2017, 10:55:38 PM
Be nice to have a proper Baba Yaga figure.  Her hut I'm not quite sold on, looks more like a relatively modern cabin than I'd expect from Old Ironclaws.  

Need to find a flight base for that dragon turtle, it'll make a dandy Gamera proxy for starship gaming.  Glad there's a few years to work on kitbashing a suitable fleet of these stupid things to go with him.

(https://parlorofhorror.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/gamera-vs-viras-pic-8.jpg?w=580&h=262)

And yes, I found the image by using "gamera starship bee butt" for search terms.  :)
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 21, 2017, 03:01:55 AM


Definitely more interesting stuff that's now got my attention. The only thing still holding me back is the long wait.

Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: beefcake on August 21, 2017, 07:22:50 AM
The new Roc looks good, but I would rather it be a little smaller.
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: Anselm van Helsing on August 21, 2017, 09:22:18 AM
This is almost unavoidable to me.

I tried to reason why I wouldn't pledge for the Core Set & Dreadmere, and my reasoning just hammered home how much use I'd get out from those sets.

A lot of figures I won't need, but the prices are still good for the ones I'd like to have. The extras I can probably sell at a decent price, and possibly even cover the postage with that. And/or give as gifts to friends & to the bunch of kids in the family who are now getting interested into this kind of fantasy figures and games.  :)

So, it's really about the long wait. Will I still want the figures when they arrive some time in 2019?
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: Calimero on August 22, 2017, 10:31:35 PM
The containers might be useful for modern to sci-fi settings… tempting

I think their details and things like hair are more muddled than those of the bigger figures.
Indeed, they might be... then again I never saw an actual Kobold so I can't tell ;)
But it's not universal, like x being all like this and y all like that. Just a tendency I think is visible.
That's true. And that's the main problem with the Bones figures. Some are great, other not so much so.
The bigger than human models I think are very good.
Indeed, Giants and Dragoons in Bones are good value for money.
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: Calimero on August 29, 2017, 04:23:42 PM

I just made a pledge… I’ll probably take the core set plus a few extras… :D

Now, can someone refresh my memory and tell me how much time we add to choose extra sets once the campaign was over in the last KS? ;D
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: Anselm van Helsing on August 29, 2017, 08:00:25 PM
Edit:
July 31th 2018. Definitely a long time. To push money their way...
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: beefcake on August 30, 2017, 04:29:30 AM
Long enough for you to add something to your pledge that you unexpectedly want further down the track and then no longer need even further down the track when your order arrives.
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: ced1106 on August 30, 2017, 10:50:24 AM
Unless it was Frogemoth. Not bad for ten bucks.

Missed the transparent dragon, though. Grr.

(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/004/855/178/c61d9c19ca5f0aaf086d4c3a7267c4b6_original.jpg?v=1446845549&w=639&fit=max&auto=format&q=92&s=fc97c2f6b8479d9f004665bf762b0be6)
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: beefcake on August 30, 2017, 10:56:42 AM
Yep I've got that guy too. A very impressive "mini" that was well worth the price and wait.
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: Calimero on August 31, 2017, 08:43:24 PM
Long enough for you to add something to your pledge that you unexpectedly want further down the track and then no longer need even further down the track when your order arrives.

lol that's true... but I'm guessing lots of us are just miniatures addicts...  :D
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: Calimero on September 01, 2017, 09:08:21 PM

I think the selection of figures in the Core set is, all in all, pretty good. The only figures I’m not fond off are the Snake Cultist, the Small World Heroes and Baba Yaga… I already have close to half the figures in the Chronoscope Expansion in metal. The Lost Valley Expansion figures look good and might be useful for a Pulp setting… The Dungeon tiles might be useful too but I fear they are a little expensive and, if made in Bones material, might be warped.
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: beefcake on September 01, 2017, 09:37:07 PM
Yes, the tiles look nice but look small too. 2"x2"?
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: beefcake on September 02, 2017, 01:41:01 AM
I going to have to get the dinosaurs. They look great.
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: ced1106 on September 02, 2017, 08:15:08 AM
The Dungeon tiles might be useful too but I fear they are a little expensive and, if made in Bones material, might be warped.

Aside from Dwarven Forge, most game tiles I've found on KS are $1 or so apiece. ForgePrints will have an AdventureScapes KS starting September 6th. EB pledges will be for the first week, and will have 80-100 pieces for $65. The pieces can be used with other game tiles, including the Stones tiles in the Reaper KS. I have the original Stones tiles in non-Bones plastic and they're just fine. Dunno how these Reaper KS game tiles will turn out. The FP mimics set I have is in resin, so their pieces might also be in resin. : https://forgeprints.com/

Core, Darkmire, Baba Yaga's Hut, Tree of Despair, two paint sets. Hoping for mouslings!  :D
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: Hobby Services on September 02, 2017, 03:28:13 PM
FWIW, the Bones 3 stuff that I've bought so far (I didn't back it) have had far fewer problems with bendiness and weird warping than earlier Bones figs.  Even the relatively thin stuff has been straight, and the only large piece that needed even minimal straightening was the Dark Young of Shubbie in the Mythos set.  May be my imagination but some of the figs (eg most of the humans in the Mythos set) seem to be cast in a slightly firmer gray material that appears to keep fine detail better.  Not as hard as the stuff in the shipping container, but it still seems more rigid than white Bones.  Maybe adding a bit of color alters the properties of Bones plastic slightly?
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 02, 2017, 08:15:07 PM


I ended up making a  pledge for a few of my "must haves." There's a bunch of other stuff that I like, but because of the long lead time, I'm going to pass and maybe pick up when it goes on general sale if I'm still interested.

Since the pledge manager is open much longer than the KS campaign, does that mean things can be added after the KS itself ends?

Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: beefcake on September 02, 2017, 08:48:53 PM
Yes, you can add for a long time before you lock it in.
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: Neotacha on September 02, 2017, 09:20:08 PM

I ended up making a  pledge for a few of my "must haves." There's a bunch of other stuff that I like, but because of the long lead time, I'm going to pass and maybe pick up when it goes on general sale if I'm still interested.

Since the pledge manager is open much longer than the KS campaign, does that mean things can be added after the KS itself ends?


Yes, but I think you have to make the initial pledge before the end of the campaign to get those prices.

Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: beefcake on September 02, 2017, 10:25:55 PM
I'm not sure on that. I think they let anyone come in after pledging has finished for a good few months. They'd be silly not to take more people's money.
Only about an hour and a half to go now.
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: Sir Barnaby Hammond-Rye on September 02, 2017, 10:45:57 PM
Yes, and you can add to your pledges later as well.

They've added a huge Wooly Mammoth now!  :o

Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 02, 2017, 10:58:27 PM
Thanks. I may end up waiting on a few things, then.

A few of those $50 deals are borderline for me. Almost enough to make me buy... but not sure yet. I've already got a pledge for some stuff in, so it's good to know I can decide to go for it later on. Ultimately, I have a feeling that they will end up with more of my money if I get to wait on some of it.  ;D
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: beefcake on September 03, 2017, 01:00:34 AM
I think I'll go for that $50 dinosaur/cavemen bunch. There are some things I like in the pledger choice $50 deal (the latest one) but a lot I don't want in it as well. The mammoth I want but I may just have to get that later (or just buy the DeeZee ones I've been wanting for my grenadier barbarian army)
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: nic-e on September 03, 2017, 01:17:57 AM
I don't want to go all in on this so I haven't backed, But the great thing about reaper is that I can rely on them to bring everything to retail in good time and for it to still be affordable! So thankyou to everyone who did back and ensured that i can get myself a mammoth in the future  lol
Title: Re: (Kickstarter) Reaper Bones 4 KS under way
Post by: mdauben on September 05, 2017, 05:14:33 PM
I'm not sure on that. I think they let anyone come in after pledging has finished for a good few months. They'd be silly not to take more people's money.
I know I was able to buy into the last KS after it ended, at the KS prices.