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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: steders on May 20, 2014, 09:55:43 AM
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Been playing with my airbrush
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/steders/IMG_2039_zps74c788f0.jpg) (http://s68.photobucket.com/user/steders/media/IMG_2039_zps74c788f0.jpg.html)
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Nice start. Can't wait to see them finished. Reminds me I have a large army of 1/200 Robotech stuff to part with (sigh). What scale VOTOM did you use for the Atlas?
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The Votom was 1/24th I think.
I finished the bases last night, not sure how much weathering I'm going to do yet.
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How did you kit-bash the Zeus? Looks pretty good.
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Awesome!
Great paintjobs. I love the subtle/subdued camo; it works really well, and the two schemes still differentiate between the two groups. Any idea what factions you'll be making them?
I started a similar project last year, also in 15mm. One of the main challenges was to find models of the right size, to match their descriptions in the Battletech universe. Most of the unseen mechs are models from other universes, in which they often have vastly different scales.
Yours seem to match pretty well! Can you tell us where you got the Shadow Hawk and Griffin? I found the Dougram models to be the hardest to source in the right sizes, but those look perfect. The Marauder looks a tad small though, but I found that one to be challenge as well. I take it the Votoms is a Goliath stand-in? And what are the two mechs in the picture with the Griffin, Shadow Hawk and Goliath? I do not recognize them.
Will you also be adding ground vehicles and infantry? And if so; have you given any thought on which lines/models?
And what rule set will you be using? I'm not too fond of the glacially slow original B-tech system, but I do like the Mech damage allocation sheets. On the other hand though, the later fast playing rules lack depth and most importantly, the damage allocation. So I'm still firmly on the fence in regard to rules...
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The 'Atlas' is a Votoms conversion
The 'Zeus' and 'Awesome' are both votoms kits bashed into a shape acceptable to me! Lots of parts out of the bits box
The shadow hawk and Griffon are Revoltech repaints.
Rules I'm not sure. I might try alpha strike, the cut down BT rules.
(Although it must be 20 years since I've played a game of battletech)
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I have got quite a few lots of 15mm infantry/vehicles lined up. I'll post some piccies. Mainly GZG plus some kit bashes of plastic kits.
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Really impressed by the Atlas conversion; exactly what I was hoping to achieve.
Btw; what make are the Warhammer and Rifleman? I've got Bandai and Arii 1:100 kits for mine, but the sculpts of yours look slightly different. The Warhammer looks like the Revell (approximately) 1/72 version I also have.
That would make the Marauder a 1/100 I suppose. Yes; I've been extensively OCD-ing on Mech sizes for my project, and I can confidently say that I've covered most of the options out there (at the time at least; I know there are now some 1/72 Dougram kits available, which weren't at the time):
(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=59663.0;attach=15486;image)
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Nice work! Your kitbashes are quite innovative.
As for rules, Alpha strike is a good fast-playing ruleset, that really captures the BT universe without the overwhelming number of rules that battletech has. However, it needs at least 10 or more number of units per side to really play well.
For a lance or two per side, consider "Mech Attack" by armorgrid games. It's got lots of BT'ish elements (damage grid, variable weapons, heat, combined arms, vehicle design, etc) in a package that plays in about 1/4 the time.
http://armorgridgames.blogspot.com/2010/03/armor-grid-mech-attack.html
We've used it for 28mm and 10mm mech games with much success. Also, it's cheap.
One thing to note is that it tops out at around 10 units per player. That's not a huge deal though as Alpha strike only really becomes fun at more than ten units per player. Between these two fast-playing rulesets (I don't like battletech rules)bI've got all my mech gaming boxes ticked.
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Looks awesome. :)
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The Warhammer and Rifleman look like the Exosquad re-released toy line (from the original Hasbro/Playmates line in the late 80's)
(http://anymoon.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Takatoku-Conversion-Kit-21.jpg)
(http://anymoon.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/ExoSquad-Destroids-1.jpg)
EDIT: Take it back the models don't match, nor does the Warhammer.
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...The Warhammer and Rifleman look like the Exosquad re-released toy line (from the original Hasbro/Playmates line in the late 80's)...
Where are those pics from? Those are just the kind of comparisons I'm looking for as I build up my 28mm mech force.
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No idea boss, was just googling "Exosquad Robotech". lol
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The rifleman and Warhammer are 1/72 scale kits from imai I think
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Figured as much; I've still got a Revell Warhammer I got as a birthday present back in the eighties... :)
+++EDIT+++But then your scale is a bit off for 15mm I think. According to Sarna.net, the Warhammer should measure somewhere between 10 and 11 meters. And since 15mm / 1/100 is such an easy conversion scale, that should translate to roughly 10cm. Yours is probably close to 17cm, if I'm not mistaken.
(Told you I was anal about scale in this project of mine... :P )
Still a kick-ass project though, and certainly further along than mine, even though I started more than a year ago already... ::)
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+++EDIT+++But then your scale is a bit off for 15mm I think. According to Sarna.net, the Warhammer should measure somewhere between 10 and 11 meters. And since 15mm / 1/100 is such an easy conversion scale, that should translate to roughly 10cm. Yours is probably close to 17cm, if I'm not mistaken.
Just using what I can get. The Battletech stuff is all over the place anyway so it won't make me feel guilty.
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Any idea of what Mech I can use a Destroid Monster as a proxie for?
I'm getting a 1/200 kit
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Longbow? :D
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Longbow? :D
How does that fit with your Battletech anal retention?! :)
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For a lance or two per side, consider "Mech Attack" by armorgrid games. It's got lots of BT'ish elements (damage grid, variable weapons, heat, combined arms, vehicle design, etc) in a package that plays in about 1/4 the time.
http://armorgridgames.blogspot.com/2010/03/armor-grid-mech-attack.html
We've used it for 28mm and 10mm mech games with much success. Also, it's cheap.
Downloaded, I'll see how it plays
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How does that fit with your Battletech anal retention?! :)
lol
It fits, with a fair bit of lubrication I'd say... :D
The BT Longbow weighs in at 85T and measures 14m. The 1/100 scale kit is around 12cm, so it only needs a little biggerizing to match the fluff and my sad and rigid adherence to it.
I suppose your 1/200 will measure around 6cm then... :)
+++EDIT+++ Doh :o ; I just realized that you were talking about the Monster (aka Stone Rhino / Behemoth) (http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Stone_Rhino_%28Behemoth%29)) and not the Longbow. My bad...
The Behemoth would measure about 15m tall, or 15cm in 15mm scale...
+++Re-EDIT+++ Eilif down there beat me to my mistake. Dang Android phone peculiarities annoyed the heck out of me while replying, so I had to wait to retype it on a proper PC... ::)
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lol
It fits, with a fair bit of lubrication I'd say... :D
The BT Longbow weighs in at 85T and measures 14m. The 1/100 scale kit is around 12cm, so it only needs a little biggerizing to match the fluff and my sad and rigid adherence to it.
I suppose your 1/200 will measure around 6cm then... :)
You guys might be a bit off unfortunately. Are you taking about this kit?
http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN966791/Sci
Though technically 1/200, in Macross, it's a HUGE vehicle that actually scales well with 28mm mechs and is over 6 inches tall!. It's bigger than any battlemech in 15mm.
This guy built one:
http://wpggamegeeks.blogspot.com/2010/11/futurkom.html
and it looks like this next to 28mm figs
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_V33govzZkM0/TO6YdH2poZI/AAAAAAAAA_U/IfaJgEP9Rp4/s1600/Monster1.JPG)
ALso, it doesn't look anything like a longbow.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Longbow
(http://www.sarna.net/wiki/images/thumb/f/f4/Longbow.jpg/191px-Longbow.jpg)
Sorry to be a Debbie downer on this one. It is a really cool mech. If you were set on 15mm, shoot me a PM I may have something to trade. I've acquired various mechs over the years, some which turned out to be a bit smaller than my 28mm uses and might work for you.
I've actually got one of these Monsters that I'm planning to do up for 28mm gaming. I'm going to loose the shoulder cannons and put small missile pods or radar arays in their mounting spots, resulting in sort of a cross between a Maurader and a rifleman.
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So Behemoth/Rhino then!
I've got an Archer (1/72) winging its way to me at the moment. The mech I'd like to track down is a 1/72 Crab gunner. They don't seem to show up on ebay very often
(Actually, I'd like to find one in 1/48, 15mm is for the table top, I have 28mm for the garden at some point in the future!)
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So Behemoth/Rhino then!
I've got an Archer (1/72) winging its way to me at the moment. The mech I'd like to track down is a 1/72 Crab gunner. They don't seem to show up on ebay very often
(Actually, I'd like to find one in 1/48, 15mm is for the table top, I have 28mm for the garden at some point in the future!)
A 1/72 archer is also going to be sized closer to 28mm. I've got one of those as well waiting for assembly and it's not quite 28mm, but it's closer. The 1/100 scale model should be pretty close to 15mm. Still, as you say, they'd look great in the garden!
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So Behemoth/Rhino then!
I've got an Archer (1/72) winging its way to me at the moment. The mech I'd like to track down is a 1/72 Crab gunner. They don't seem to show up on ebay very often
(Actually, I'd like to find one in 1/48, 15mm is for the table top, I have 28mm for the garden at some point in the future!)
Steders; if you like, I can give you a contact in Japan. He tracked down mech kits for me over there (on local auction sites and stores) which would otherwise have passed me by due to language challenges (i.e. I don't speak Japanese ::) ). He charges a pretty low percentage as broker's fee, but overall, the prices are excellent. PM me if you're interested...
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The Monster would fit as the original Behemoth --- though it'll be small in comparison to your other mechs.
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/Star_Destroyer/016-4.jpg)
^Works as the Behemoth perfectly...but the scale will be off.