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Miniatures Adventure => Adventures in the Far East => Topic started by: gringo on November 23, 2017, 01:42:42 PM
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Gringo40s will be releasing a Brand New range in 28mm
covering the French conquest of Annam otherwise known
as North Vietnam...work is well underway and will cover
many of the unusual units as well as Black and yellow flag
troops...gunboats,Elephants and loads of equipment..i would
like this to be my signature range so will put all hands to the
pump on this one.......I will be expanding the Opium Wars range
as this range will tie in with the French operations there.
more to follow :o :D :-* o_o 8)
regards
Ged
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Very interesting choice of subject- I don't imagine there is anything available currently so I look forward to what you produce.
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Codsticker thanks for the support :D
regards
Ged
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appertizer pic one! en avant!!
cheers
Ged
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The range I have been waiting for 30 years !! ;D
Great new, Ged. If you need some informations about organization and uniforms, the Foundry books - Indochina and Rivals of the Raj - are very good. Please avoid some french illustrations as french are often depicted in metropolitan parade dress and vietnamese in fantasy dress ;)
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Siaba
many thanks for your input.i have had this range in mind fot
a couple of years now and have been lucky in obtaining some
great information...always happy to see any new info though. your
quite right about the French in reality quite stripped down for the
heat and humidity of Annam.........
see attached pic
cheers
Ged
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Interesting subject, lots of unusual stuff. :)
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Jambo 1
cheers for that.........loads of wargame food for thought¬!
regards
Ged
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one of the more exotic factions involved in this
conflict were the "Black Flags aligned with their
Annamese (north Vietnam) allies against the
yellow flags and the multi-national French forces
some of the French equipment was quite "Jules Verne)
in appearance
black flag standard bearer attached...worth doing a
range just for him alone!! :o :-* o_o :D
cheers
Ged
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OOOH. May not be able to resist this one :D
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axabrax........good news indeed! :D
cheers
Ged
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of possible interest...much of the campaign from the French side
was fought by the splendid Marine infantry units in almost 100pct
humidity at times....officers often changed their shirts three times a day
pic attached of one of these determined chaps ..and overloaded :o
cheers
Ged
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Please don't forget Ged many of the Vietnamese were still in dress seen during the Tay Son uprising which was much earlier
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... and will cover many of the unusual units as well as Black and yellow flag
troops...gunboats,Elephants and loads of Equipment...
I'am looking forward for this range, especially when there are gunboats and elephants involved.
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thanks chaps
all duly noted ;)
regards
Ged
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Pic French Marine infantry officers Tonkin 1883-85
neat looking uniforms..
:D
cheers
Ged
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Yeah, the one on our left looks like a Bobbie lol.
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Codsticker there is an air of the Met about em.................
:D
attached pic of one of the apposing forces..Annamese
foot soldier 1883.......
cheers
Ged
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One has to remember many of the Vietnamese were armed with weapons of an earlier age and not modern rifles
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cheers Geoff :D
attached pic of French troop types in Tonkin
cheers
Ged
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Great to see this interesting period getting coverage. Good luck with this Ged.
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thanks Steve......its a fascinating era..
lots more interesting posts to follow ;)
cheers
Ged
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//looks great/////
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Juergen............cheers for that ..not seen this picture! ;)
regards
Ged
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Spear armed
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cheers Geoff..Royal Tonkin Guard on the left with the
tufty top to his helmet!
regards
Ged
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One has to forgive old colonials for giving all S.E.Asian drawings of troops European features!
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Hi Ged if you do the Vietnamese Spearman to have them made open handed
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Hi Ged..
i have a few interesting pictorial sources..above all a pair of purposly made colour plates of Black flags with different soldiers,..from a decades ago 's Italian wargame magazine but they are in a PDF file and i'm not able to extract the picts and post here..maybe you can do it..if your remind me your mail adress i can send you the files..
more there are a couple of essential booklets made by someting like "societé des modellistes, maqueties or figurinistes" with purposly made plates about the force involved...i will try to locate their site/adress
last..i think it would be more easy , as similar topics, to post this very interesting trend on the Colonial section..personally i find it by accident...as "adventures in the Far East" let me think more at Samurais ecc..not a a Colonial conflict...
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Geoff
all good........ :D
cheers
Ged
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italwars
thanks for your input...you might be right about
the colonial section....period straddles both and
the Chinese were involved :D
will send personal message
best regards
Ged
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Maybe a stupid question, but can I use the manchu imperials from the Opium war range for the tonkin 1883 conflict?
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i'm sure you can use the rifle armed Chineese...the French clashed quite a few time Vs the Imperial Chinese..and the Pavillon Noirs were in fact not simply bandits but proxies of Chinese Gvt..even lead by Chinese generals
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for the Uniforms of Vietnamese Imperial Army scroll this book:
http://collections.quaibranly.fr/#0a53397c-ffa1-4f55-99c1-f3e904345c74
but as i'm sure you'll be very disappointed that the Musée Quai Branly do not allow to download those splendid images..you can find some of them here..that i not only downloaded but also printed thanks to my office laser colour printer (i'm Italian ;)
http://parissaigon.blog.lemonde.fr/page/7/
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Ichwillauch as Italwars says you will be abale to use my Imperial Chinese
I will be adding rifle armed Chinese as well as Black flags..........
cheers
Ged
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Italwars
thanks for posting these images as I have only seen
a fraction before ;)
cheers
Ged
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Maybe a stupid question, but can I use the manchu imperials from the Opium war range for the tonkin 1883 conflict?
In my opinion, you can use the officer, standard bearer and soldiers without firearms but not the rest. In 1883, the chinese army had been reformed and most soldiers had modern uniforms and modern rifles - correct ammunitions and training being another problem... :D
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Siaba
couldn't agree more...openhanded would be ok as well
because the Chinese almost always had the same look it
makes for easier conversions...still I will make a whole bunch
of new ones...........got to be done really!
as to your last sentence that makes for "interesting" rules!! :o :-* o_o :D
cheers
Ged
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Thanks everybody for your answers.
@italwars: The link is really great, very colorful and beautiful uniforms
@Gringo: Order is placed...
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ichwillauch...........thanks for your inpot!! :D
and support!
cheers
Ged
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funken print of later French colonial infantry 1900 but gives
a good flavour of this period ...14 years on......
cheers
Ged
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Prisoners
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nice................they did like a big"lantern" hat as well!
attached pic for 1883..........
cheers
Ged
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another inspirational plate
French Colonial troops
cheers
Ged
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i'll try try to contribute to this very interesting project
Images d'épinal...the brown dressed French troops are actually sporting the native kéo..or something like that..over or in place of their tunics
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Italwars
that would be great .......its a deeply fascinating period!
cheers
Ged
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black flags in action.......... :D
cheers
Ged
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Just love those trumpeters
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pretty fab arnt they Shikpa!!
cheers
Ged
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French Marine infantry in sction
cheers
Ged
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I'm watching this with some anticipation!
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Etranger.......good to hear ;)
cheers
Ged
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French Marine artillery........ :D
cheers
Ged
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Vietnamese
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A fascinating period! ...although not very popular in France (perhaps because it really didn't end well...) :D
Thank you for doing miniatures about it anyway.
Another link with interesting pictures (including other places):
http://rosalielebel75.franceserv.com/armee-coloniale.html
This drawing could be in Haut-Tonkin, 1885 (?)
(http://rosalielebel75.franceserv.com/armee-coloniale/canon-80-tonkin-1885.jpg)
Internet research also gives this:
(https://indomemoires.hypotheses.org/files/2012/11/LaGuerreduTonkin.jpg)
...and this, a bit later... (1908?): :(
(https://secondeguerremondialeclairegrube.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/p1060333-2.jpg)
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Patrice
thanks for your input
pleased you like the period
I believe the gun is an 80mm mountain
gun used with some effect..it had a little
40mm brother :D
cheers
Ged
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If you are looking for period photographs, nothing beats the Hocquard collection, which can be found in several different places on the web :
http://dona-rodrigue.eklablog.fr/photos-les-francais-vietnam-en-1884-1885-a46327724?noajax&mobile=1 (http://dona-rodrigue.eklablog.fr/photos-les-francais-vietnam-en-1884-1885-a46327724?noajax&mobile=1)
http://slideplayer.fr/slide/3703292/ (http://slideplayer.fr/slide/3703292/)
To the best of my knowledge, no one's ever done tirailleurs algériens in tropical helmets :
(http://player.slideplayer.fr/12/3703292/data/images/img50.jpg)
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Arthur
thanks very much for your valuable input
these old photos are a mine of information
been trawling through these sites and others
as you mention the Tonkinese Algeriens would
be a first.......the surface had been hardly scratched
on this period and has long interested me.... :D
just had a quick look the images are crystal clear
especially the black flag standard guy!
regards
Ged
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found this interesting photo of a later period in Annam
but captures the feel of the period
cheers
Ged
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French foreign legion officer 1883 in Tonkin walking out dress :D
cheers
Ged
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interesting Tonkin print...not very accurate but captures
the feel of the era :D
cheers
Ged
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found this:
https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_mmwyAQAAIAAJ
A german book written by an officer 1901 titled "Taktische Beispiele aus den Kriegen der neuesten Zeit. 1880-1900" dealing with the French operations in Tonkin.
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ichwillauch great find not seen this
many thanks!
Ged
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Found this pic
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cheers Geoff some funky uniform! :o
regards
Ged
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Nice but totally out of place for Tonkin. Seems to be a 18th century colonial unit from Africa....
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communications section en route Tonkin 1885
possibly marine infantry......
cheers
Ged
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Ged
just send you trough email a pair of PDF with my colour sources for this campaign ...not able to post images here...there a couple of very interesting plates..maybe you can find something for this very interesting thread and coming range
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there is also another source that should be exhaustive..those uniform booklets published by Club Francais de la Figurine Historique with, as the comment said, plenty of plates...last year i wrote them in order to buy the books (among them, in addition to the ones on Tonkin also some other good titles) but never received any answer...maybe our French friends of this forum if interested in that period/range could try to tackle those probably excellent sources:
http://s510684789.onlinehome.fr/cl/am_cffh/index.php?id_product=12&controller=product
for those able to read French i find this book in 2 parts PDF which tells in details a campaign with some good battle maps:
https://www.penseemiliterre.fr/ressources/20146/53/la_vie_militaire_au_tonkin_-_capitaine_lecomte.pdf
https://www.penseemiliterre.fr/ressources/20146/54/la_vie_militaire_au_tonkin_-_capitaine_lecomte_-_tome_2.pdf
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Italwars
the company you mention produce a great swathe of books..will e-mail you the contact name I have, I have 80pct of them..........
regards
Ged
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Italwars
thanks for the pdfs great stuff!
kind regards
Ged
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Hello.
You can find pics about the conquest ot the Tonkin here (excuse my english, i'm french ;) ) :
- https://www.troupesdemarine.org/traditions/uniforme/pgs/un000003.htm
- https://www.troupesdemarine.org/traditions/uniforme/pgs/un000023.htm
- https://www.troupesdemarine.org/traditions/uniforme/pgs/un000014.htm
And another pics.
(https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/825407294.jpg) (https://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=825407294.jpg)
(https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/78634210549371.jpg) (https://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=78634210549371.jpg)
(https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/473315130001indochineconquetedutonkinentreedesfrancaisalangson1885.jpg) (https://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=473315130001indochineconquetedutonkinentreedesfrancaisalangson1885.jpg)
(https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/708866b6fa1da6e476c47b08d104a9f64e0699frenchcolonialfrencharmy.jpg) (https://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=708866b6fa1da6e476c47b08d104a9f64e0699frenchcolonialfrencharmy.jpg)
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Ajax
really great links...not seen these
much obliged thanks ;)
kind regards
Ged
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FRENCH SAILOR
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nice illustration Geoff cheers :D
regards
Ged
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update................I will releasing a 28mm Wargames model
of the French Gunboat this year........to go with my Tonkin range.
comprising a resin hull with Metal armament for the forward cannon
and the upper turret Hotchkiss ....metal steering wheel and anchor
Crew are being made this splendid vessel..........based on the actual boat "Revolver" her sister ship aptly named "mitrailleuse" they were something of a sensation on Tonken with the Hotchkiss firing one pound high expolsive shells and the armoured plated ,coupled with the Jules Verne style/ancient greek classical look..used to ram Blackflag junks and
other water impediments .......
cheers
Ged
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:o :o
I must say that at first glance I was a bit skeptical ...but I was wrong! :)
(http://dossiersmarine.org/index_htm_files/4194.jpg)
(http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/obj/026019/f4/48777-v6.gif)
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Patrice
same thought as me....I was going to make one of the
larger types...but to be honest they lack the style and visual
punch and Revolver grew on me...........
its underway as we speak,,,,,,,,,,,, :o :-* o_o ;)
cheers
Ged
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expecting some Black flag greens this week plus a multitude
of equipment...for onward transmission to Griffin Moulds..........
:o :-* o_o ;) :D ;D
cheers
Ged
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Lolol 1st Dibs on a preview lol!
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see what I can do for you Geoff ;)
cheers
Ged
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The VSF boys (& girls!) might fancy Revolver too!
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Estranger
your quite right it will do for pulp and a multitude
of scenarios and genres...methinks. ;)
cheers
Ged
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Black flag enntrenchments
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great pic Geoff ...........cheers!
regards
Ged
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chaps........(and Helen)
I hope to receive some Tonkin greens this week
will pop up a picture or two :D
cheers
Ged
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:o
Just found this thread, looking for ideas for my 1950s war in the Tonkin region.
Any suggestions for books or websites for some one to this era?
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Commisarmoody
if you contact me at gjmfigurines4@btinternet.com
will see what I can do to help you :)
regards
Ged
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Some Tonkinese troops............. :D
cheers
Ged
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And these
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Black flag army
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Its a good print Geoff one of my favourites! :D
cheers
Ged
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and our first black flag........chap blowing
one of the oversized trumpets they used
one for Geoff :D
cheers
Ged
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and his opposite number a French legionnaire on guard
duty in Tonkin
regards
Ged
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They are bought! Looking forward for more to come
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ishwillauch cheers matey ;)
second pic is of the French legionnaire with his
detachable backpack loaded with stautues and other
loot..this will be "special"
cheers
Ged
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Love the trumpeter Ged will look good for my 1820s-1840s Vietnamese army command stands
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cheers Geoff :)
regards
Ged
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I like the trumpeter and also the French trooper with the cigar and "Acquired" Buddha statue.
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Lovely Ged, just lovely.
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commissarmoody cheers matey :D
Helen thanks as ever........... ;)
cheers
Ged
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I am hooked already, interesting period
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nevermore thanks for that............its a great period
to study. ...still unexplored gaming wise.. :D
cheers
Ged
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on the list......troops of the Annamese (Vietnamese)
Royal guard....
cheers
Ged
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and a picture of the Annamese Royal Guard (north Vietnamese)
with European features drawn by a French missionary
cheers
Ged
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Hence the European features, but great to hear Ged that these will be covered as they will double up for the much earlier Siamese Vietnamese wars during the 1830s and 1840s
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and another commission just made..........Torpedo boat 44
for Tonkin campaign
under construction in Gringo40s dry docks :o :-* 8) :-* :o :D ;) :) o_o o_o o_o
cheers
Ged
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That will look stunning on the tabletop
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thanks Geoff its a beauty to look at..just had to have
it made :-* o_o ;D :D
more Navy expansion en route! :o
cheers
Ged
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Vietnamese Royal Guard
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great pic Geoff :D
Vietnamese Royal Guard just commissioned........... :o
cheers
Ged
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GREAT NEWS, CANT WAIT!
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Looking forward to them.
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commissarmoody
cheers matey! :D
regards
Ged
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a hint of whats to come :o :-* :o :-*
cheers
Ged
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Excellent news Ged, will be great for my Siamese Vietnamese war project
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indeed Geoff :D
cheers
Ged
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and another commission just made..........Torpedo boat 44
for Tonkin campaign
under construction in Gringo40s dry docks :o :-* 8) :-* :o :D ;) :) o_o o_o o_o
cheers
Ged
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Oooh! I need one of these!!!!!!!!!!! :-*
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Mad Lord Snapcase
good news..............one down 49 to go!! :D
cheers
Ged
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just commissioned another French torpedo boat
basically a steam driven whaling boat with a
"spar" torpedo.....bonkers but effective (most of the time!) :o :-* :o :-*
for my French Tonkin navy
regards
Ged
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What appears to be a book
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nice pic..........
attached a favourite of mine French troops
en route to Tonkin :D
cheers
Ged
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A couple of nice pics
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good ones :D
cheers
Ged
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Hope to get some Black flag castings back next week
..then into full production in time for Salute release
cheers
Ged
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Ged previews some of the excellent Black Flags that will be released at Salute, all the figures are open handed to take a variety of rifles and polearms...Speaking to Ged, there is plenty of unusual and exciting items to come!
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Cheer Geoff! ;)
regards
Ged
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All very cool! I would have replied earlier but finally figured out the LAF's web address change. lol
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thanks Commissarmoody ;)
cheers
Ged
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great sculpts
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thanks Juergen for your continued support ! :D
cheers
Ged
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one of the more exotic factions involved in this
conflict were the "Black Flags aligned with their
Annamese (north Vietnam) allies against the
yellow flags and the multi-national French forces
some of the French equipment was quite "Jules Verne)
in appearance
black flag standard bearer attached...worth doing a
range just for him alone!! :o :-* o_o :D
cheers
Ged
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The main battle standard of the Black Flag army is actually the Seven star banner(big dipper).
(https://i.imgur.com/25Br39g.jpg)
The standard bearer you've attached is shown with a command flag; used to relay military orders from top down under the pain of death.
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Wansui.very interesting post ..I was unaware of the flags exsistance
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Ged
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https://youtu.be/rvc8ppNmUu0
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Impressive stuff. Not my sphere of interest, but could be. Thank you for posting.
Any way of getting sub titles in English?
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great post Geoff.cheers
regards
Ged
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film has a nice flavour of the period...................
cheers
Ged
given me a few ideas!! o_o :-* :o ;D
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more Black flags just commissioned chaps.............. :D
cheers
Ged
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Anyone having difficulty uploading pics since the LAF update?
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An interesting pic
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To Shipka: CFFH = Club Francais de la Figurine Historique - http://cffh.free.fr/index_fr.htm.
I have their "La revolte des Boxers 1900-1901" (The Rise of the Boxers 1900-1901). Three books with a wealth of information (in French of course) and illustrations, mostly b & W but also in colour. Although these I could not find on their website anymore (these were specials from 2004, 2005-4 and 2006-4), I saw LA CAMPAGNE DE CHINE DE 1853-1865 et LA REVOLTE DES TAIPINGS (two books) and L'ARMEE CHINOISE DES SHANG A 1840 (also two books). Perhaps useful ?
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Their website :
http://s510684789.onlinehome.fr/cl/am_cffh/index.php
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Merci Beaucoup LGen
me too was interested in those titles..but , when i contacted them years ago they didnt answer me
just to now please ..but about those title which are 'nt very cheap..are they illustrated with puposly made uniform plates, maps ecc...or simply reproductions from other sources the can be find on the web like, for example, Dick De Lonlay
http://collections.lesartsdecoratifs.fr/au-tonkin-1883-85-dick-de-lonlay-recits-anecdotiques
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great input chaps..........nice illustration
:D
cheers
Ged
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Interesting print of the period............... :D
cheers
Ged
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Another great building pic of Tonkin
cheers
Ged
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Hello,
I follow this conversation with great interest because I myself have been waiting for this event for 30 years. Fervant admirer of this period, I put this link that you must surely know but in case! ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRq93DJMyVw
It is on the Siege of Tuyen Quang (1885) narrated in great detail by Georges Blond on his book on the Foreign Legion dating from 1964.
Well when the figures will be available I think I would throw myself on for a good acquisition, Ah black flags in 28mm on a table! The dream becomes reality!! :D :D
One more thing, look at this site although originally the name is about the onslaught of Peitang Cathedral during the siege of Beijing, there are plans on the site about the Marine troops and plans to make a gun boat and a boat to accompany them.
http://sylvain-figsethistoire1914-1944.blogspot.fr/2015/08/?m=0
Cheers!!!
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Khailvahan
many thanks for your interest..........working away on the figures
and equipment........... ;)
great internet tips as well
regards
Ged
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another Black Flag open handed with a powerful rifle...Martini Henry methinks
as all rifles and weapons being sorted :D :o
regards
Ged
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:o Great looking fig!
I am guessing the Tonkines will be shorter then the French. :D
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commissionmoody
thanks for that...................loads more to come! ;)
cheers
Ged
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another swathe of Black Flag greens have arrived and some suprises!! :o :-* :o :-*
cheers
Ged
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Black flag Captain just arrived...plus a load of his mates :D
cheers
Ged
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And another view of our man
cheers
Ged
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cool..
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cheers Juergen ;)
regards
Ged
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Another excellent fig, within the new greens are there more polearmed and sword troops?
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thanks Geoff.............split is now mostly polearms etc with
a goodly batch of guys armed with repeaters as was in real life :D
cheers
Ged
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Ged has kindly previewed two figures of The Royal Vietnamese Guard, these are excellent figures and will cross over several timelines
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cheers Geoff for posting :D
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work progressing well on the "Tonkin Navy" :D
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Harland and Cronin, ship builders are fast developing new vessel to expand the Colonial powers, Men stand by your rivets!
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indeed Geoff........... ;) rivets being based with vigour!! :D
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atmospheric print.................not so accurate but captures the period
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yes Ged is one of my favourites..
but indeed , contrary to appearance, is sufficiently realistic..for example the brown clad Marsouins and Tirailleurs annamites are wearing the ugly Kéo which was a Vienamese native type dress quite ugly used as a kind of cheap fatigue dress in alternative to the French uniforms that after some time falled in pieces
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Italwars...............I think you may be right always thought
the native shirts were black cotton...........im sure they used
brown as well :D
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Contemporary descriptions would indicate Brown as well as grey(although this may have been faded black), keep in mind around the area dark indigo blue which would have been found, this from a distance could easily be mistaken for black
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I hope to have the first tranche of Black flags,,Vietnamese royal guard..flashman and lady in limited numbers ready for Salute all hands on deck at present! :o :o :-* o_o :D....in Wellingtons words it may be a close run thing!
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French print of the time
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just to confirm the Black flags contingent...........first tranche to be released at Salute ,hopefully site updated a few days prior to the event.
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just had my Legionnaire "on Guard" figure painted
will post some of these pictures here
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ps for release at Salute...........
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and another
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Really good Ged
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The jade statue strapped to the top really finishes the mini lol
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Geoff and Kommando many thanks chaps! ;)
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another shot of the Legionnaire on guard duty :D
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I know it's greedy, but us addicts of the lead smoke were wondering if a painted example of a black flag might be forthcoming
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Geoff the Genie of the bottle grants two out of three of your
wishes for tonight
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:D
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and other one........ :D :D
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Looks very fearless, amid the assault by the foreign devils!
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indeed Geoff ..cheers ;)
and another equally determined :o :-* o_o :o
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Ged
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ps "open handed"
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another open handed black flag with eye patch :D
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another Annam related chap...Black flag
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A great figure Ged
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thanks Geoff :D
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and if you want to use those nice minis in some historical but manageable tabletop scenarios and want some sources..Gallica on line free book scans is your place...many good texts on Tonkin for the period represented by Gringo minis..and also if French is not your cup of tea..they are quite a few nice sources with TOES and illustrations...among many this one is a very good one...more than 20 ready maps calling for small scenarios and all the Toes with small columns of Légionaires, Marsouins, Tirailleurs Annamites Vs Chineese/Vietnameese bandits...i already downloaded over 50 titles dealing with French Colonial Wars in Morocco , Africa and Asia..all good sources..but unfortunatly until now i'm only able read them on my notebook...still too heavy for my Tablet...
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k930794b/f1.image.r=Tonkin%20Gallieni
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Itwars that's a great post ............loads of detail and information
much obliged.
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/Opérations-militaires-Tonkin-Sciences-Sociales/dp/2013743009/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1523516128&sr=1-1&keywords=operations+militaires+au+Tonkin
If someone wants a hardcopy
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up on e-bay as well chaps.........personally I may well get the
original book....as well as downloads. great suggestion though
Italwars your I-cloud must be bursting with images and info....mine is!! :D ;)
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new black flag pic :D
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new black flag pic :D
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Looking really good
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thanks Geoff :D
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Lovely looking miniatures Ged. Hope your sales are proceeding well.
All the best,
Helen
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thanks Helen............... ;)
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update
a few more black flags to be added to the site any day :) :D
French infantry being worked on
as is the Naval contingent for both sides
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a resplendently attired trumpeter for the black flags
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Really like the painting on this one, in keeping with some local paintings
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me to Geoff tres colourful :D
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chaps and Helen please note we have added Flags for Vietnam and the black flags themselves to our site
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and this week I shall be wearing "tangerine"
another "open handed " blackflag pirate
cheers
Ged
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just Brilliant figures...my
friend from Omaha was there Ken Bunger...I;m hoping he bought some figures to show me..he;weak....Hope your show went well.
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Juergen
many thanks indeed
great show for sure...best yet! :D
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rampaging black flag from the range so far,,,,,,,,,, :o
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and a black flag in yellow! :)
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Lovely painting
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Very nice :) You did a great work, Ged.
That's the period I wanted to game thirty years ago when I began miniature wargaming. There were no suitable range of figure alas. Now, i'll be able to do it :)
I hope to see some frenchmen and tirailleurs tonkinois soon ;)
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Siaba
glad to hear! French underway...plus a few suprises :D
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Ged
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Now, these are all very nice Ged, but I really don't see how they're going to fit into my Mexican Adventure units... lol
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Uchronia is your friend ;)
Anyway, without going so far, the french army intervened in indochina in the 1860s. Black Flags figures with firearms can't do for the period as their rifles are too modern but you can easily use Black Flags or Annamese with sword and spears ;)
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Siaba :D
indeed..............you can use my Opium Wars Chinese as black flags used the same hair style and you have the polearms and wide
variety of old style swords etc
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Ged
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Coming in August new Osprey by Rene Chartrand nn French and Colonial Troops 1872 - 1914
https://www.amazon.co.uk/French-Colonial-Troops-1872-1914-Men-at-Arms/dp/1472826191/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1525094638&sr=8-5&keywords=rene+chartrand
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Von Stroheim got my name on it
cheers ;)
Ged
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interesting Tonkin print
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Ged
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Black flag with polearm (open handed)
in powder blue! :D
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Very Nice Ged
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cheers Geoff :D
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Some French arrived today...............waiting on a bunch more
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That's good news Ged
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Nice!
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That's great news ;D
Inspiration from a french reenactement group :
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.940745759387057.1073741844.552805214847782&type=3
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1181589795302651.1073741849.552805214847782&type=3
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thank you Rokuroto :D
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Macohe
I was unaware of their existence.very interesting!
thanks
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Saw them irl a few years ago. The group has grown since. Nice to see some people interested in this largely unknown war…even in France.
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Siaba
agreed ......good news indeed :D
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Ged
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work on the French is ticking along nicely but will be a while
so please bear with me...........working on many facets of this conflict
favourite picture attached...... 8)
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Is that the kitchen sink in his pack ?
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Metternich
with an 85lb weight even a small
kitchen sink would finish him! lol
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Ged
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rare print of Annamese (north Vietnamese) cavalry in parade dress in Tonkin late 19th century
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Very nice Ged
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thanks Geoff :D
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Brown shirted black flag
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A lovely figure, great painting Ged
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cheers Geoff :D
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Will the new Steve Barber Burmese,Siamese be able to compliment these figures or are they too early 19th century?
Mark
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They can be used as opponents for the Vietnamese/Black Flags which is what I intend to use them for, as Ged can attest. There were wars between the Siamese and Vietnamese in the 1830s .you will need the Siamese figs which Steve will have castings of in June.
The Vietnamese were allies of the Lao also, the figure that Ged has just painted is the ideal style to use. I will ask Ged if any muskets can be had.
So too answer in simple words Yes
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Marco/Geoff
will be looking at getting suitable muskets available
for my figures to aid in the crossover to earlier Co-china
chaps :D
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Ged
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Excellent news Ted, much appreciated
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Not very accurate picture but captures
the feel of the period :D
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Ged
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Some more pictures of my Black Flags
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Gorgeous brushwork
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your right there Geoff..........may have to have the painter
kidnapped and bought to my studios! lol
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Ged
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great Tonkin pic........ :)
cheers
Ged
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update...........flat out on New additions to the Tonkin range :D
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Ged
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Excellent news
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Any news on the French, Ged?
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still underway Geoff as dealing primarily with my Navy
at present :D
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Ged
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Are they still at Harland and Wolfe shipyard
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no on sea trials off the west coast of Ireland so to speak! :D lol
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update
some French allies...en route...
picture attached probably one
of the best known for a little
known period..French Officers (Marines)
with Tonkinese riflemen and coolies
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pre-release picture of Green for French
mounted officer 1885
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Ged
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Lovely figure
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Lovely miniature of the officer. Thanks for sharing.
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many thanks Geoff and Helen ;)
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French and allied troops embarking
at Toulon I believe for Tonkin......
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Some of my black flags beautifully painted
:D
done for a mate of mine
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Ged
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ps Rafa Archdukes splendid work! :o :-*
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Really nice grouping
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Aaah! Rafa's sterling work! Amazing!
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Lovely work Ged. Nice present for your friend.
All the best,
Helen
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Geoff,Dinthedin,Helen
many thanks indeed :D ;)
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Ged
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Chaps and Helen
thought you might like to see "work in progress" on
our first ship from the Gringo40s 28mm Tonkinese Navy
yards
the redoubtable "Revolver"...crew being painted and artillery
needs painting...picture just a quick mock up
will be commercially available soon (ish) :D
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Very very nice, look forward to seeing the crew
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thanks very much Geoff ;)
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Sweet and quite impressive. Thanks Ged for sharing.
Best wishes,
Helen
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thanks Helen..........appreciated ;)
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annanmese Boat 1883-86
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Ged
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Not sure if this has been mentioned: online resources on Gallica (French National Library).
Some pictures made by a Dr Hocquard in 1883-86:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b84430552?rk=493564;4
Address for more Tonkin-related images (but many are from a later time):
http://gallica.bnf.fr/services/engine/search/sru?operation=searchRetrieve&version=1.2&startRecord=0&maximumRecords=15&page=1&collapsing=true&exactSearch=false&query=dc.title%20all%20%22tonkin%22%20%20and%20%28dc.type%20all%20%22image%22%29
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Patrice
very helpful
merci monsieur! ;)
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We will have some of the Annamese boats
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French Foreign legon early Tonkin (courtesy Stephen Tindle)
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Ged
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Nice pic
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interesting Geoff :D
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breaking of the siege of Tuyen Quang 1885..........
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first picture of our French torpedo boat 1885..for our Tonkin range
(work in progress) pic courtesy dominio industries
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Ged
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TB really interesting , could be a good base for a WWI TB also ...
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The siege looks like an interesting stargazing proposition!
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Byblos
merci monsieur
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French early Torpedo boat Tonkin 1883-86 based
on a steam driven whaling boat with "attached" torpedo
"work in progress"
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Very nice
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thanks Geoff
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Ged
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Lovely work as usual Ged. The French navy is looking impressive.
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The Citadel of a famous siege
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nice print Geoff...….. :D
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Ged
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just a quick note to say some additional releases
some of the French foreign legion, first of the
Marine fusiliers..and some annamite riflemen
to be added to my site within the next few weeks.
maybe sooner :D
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Ged
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Excellent news, here is a French blockbuster circa 1884
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nice...……… :)
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Ged
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Hmm, MDF, towelling roof. Charlie Foxtrot?
Excellent news, here is a French blockbuster circa 1884
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Hi Ged are you able to recommend a good reading list
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when I get a mo...……...nearly all French,,,,99pct!!
need a big dictionary! :o
attached "fusilier marine 1885" basically armed sailors
en route within 10 days :D
on my site 8)
cheers
Ged
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a French foreign legionnaire coming soon :D
part of another release 8)
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Ged
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Great new figures Ged, can't wait to see more!
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Lovely looking miniatures.
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Those French Miniatures look great. Can’t wait to get my hands on some.
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Helen,Huascar,Geoff
many thanks for the thumbs up on the new figures ;)
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Ged
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Will you be covering The Yellow flags at sometime in the future
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Tuyên Quang, the aftermath of the siege
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it was a grim site for sure....the relief column suffered very high
casualities...
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Ged
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legionnaire reaching for ammo for
his Gras rifle 1885
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Really nice new sculpts.
Coming on well.
Perhaps would have liked bayonets fixed but no matter.
Cuirassier
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Like the legislature reaching for his ammo
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Supposed Chinese infantry 1885
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interesting print...annamese/Chinese crossover ! :D
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Yes regular Chinese appear to wear tassels collie hat, similar to those worn by the Opium War leaders, and very simple tunics and trousers, bare feet armed with early single shot rifle......
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Interesting units
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Chinese militia
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Chinese militia are cool :D
annamese rifles already underwsy :)
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Chinese regulars that supported the Black Flags, please note in the second photo of two Chinese prisoners the outfit worn by the figure on the left, which is a variant of the one worn in the group shot
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nice group photo :D
ta!
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Revolver gunboat crew coming soon
with the Revolver............readtings
are posed in action stances left hand
guy firing the Revolver gartling cannon
and the guy with the hand firing the
80mm forward gun..the Captian
looking suitably gallic!!
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Ged
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Very very nice Ged
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They look great Ged. :o
Mark
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Geofd and Marco many thanks :D
cheers
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A naval pic for you
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nice on Geoff!
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A Chinese Cannon from Bang Bo
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most unusual even for a Chinese Gun Geoff! :D
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https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_N%25C3%25BAi_Bop&ved=2ahUKEwjOwJ6k8YPcAhVpIsAKHZMiAJwQFjAKegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw183I8x37KLaD8JHm5XLpqa
This appears to be one of the battles that the famed Chinese Tigermen were engaged, but wearing either a cloth and shoulder covering over the normal dress of a Chinese soldier but were armed with guns not sword and shield
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Chinese have nothing but unusual...that;s why they are so cool.
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Canon from the Chinese/Black flags at Bang Bo, this appears to be on a typical Chinese single trail.
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I like both of those guns. I already have one like the 2nd one. The carriage one the 1st on looks like it would be easy to replicate with a couple of lazer cut flats & about 4 pins.
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may have to increase my Chinese artillery section!!
great input chaps :D
cheers
Ged
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Just got my first Legionaires...these are lovely Ged, can't wait for more to be released
Cheers,
Geoff
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many thanks Geoff...……. :D
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Have ordered some Tokinese last night
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en route matey...……. :D
cheers
Ged
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A nice naval pic
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rather splendid :D
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Ged
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Tonkin update
just to say I am flat out on this range
with more French (including some
offbeat foot officers ..as was their want
to be used to command various units..
Marines...more Tonkinese rifles..
more Black flag personalites..looking
at French artillery either "Msrine of land
or both, Naval shipyard at full steam ahead :D
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Ged
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Lovely news Ged.
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thanks Helen :D
cheers
Ged
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first pictures of our Chinese /black flag junk
(pictures courtesy Domino studios
work in progress
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Ged
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Great addition to the range
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..outstanding...
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Wow, excellent! :-*
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thanks chaps...…………...another
pic of the boat I will use in the Salute
Game next year..customised ..work
in progress
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Ged
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Looks great.
Mark
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Thanks Mark! ;)
cheers
Ged
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box of Greens due anyday now :o :-* :D ;D
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Ged
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Oooo Excellent news!!!
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some Greens received today for Tonkin
will post some photos when able :D
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Ged
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Green port excellent
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French Marine infantry en route
en avant!
cheers
Ged
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Very nice Ged.
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Superb, just what I need for my Formosa landing
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thanks Helen and Geoff ;)
another pic of forthcoming French Marine
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Ged
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Excellent pose Ged, need these for The Formosa campaign
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thanks Geoff :D
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Ged
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one of our new officers for la France in Tonkin :D
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Ged
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Some lovely officers you have shown on Facebook. The sculptor has design this fellow with painters in mind. You can see that it will be easier to paint with all those lovely folds. Love the pose and face.
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Is there a projected release date for the new French?
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thanks Helen,,,,,,,im very pleased with his Tonkin work :D
cheers
Ged
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CPT Shanks.
release date for the latest French about 5-6 weeks
a load more are being sculpted....
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Ged
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Can't wait to get my hands on the new marines and officers, they are great figures
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Nice, would these be suitable adversaries for the Dahomey warriors?
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I think the equipment was a little different but unless you are an expert I don't think it would matter.I would use them.As far as uniforms I think from the 1880's until 1900 they were all over the place with a lot of different combinations.I think if you look at pictures from this era of a group of soldiers you see all kinds of variations
Mark
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thanks Chaps...……..having studied this period for
ages I agree with Marco in his comments. the main
aim for me is to show some variance in uniform types
especially with the officers and of course other ranks
Belgian you could of course use these figures for Dahomey
the main difference being the adoption of the lebel smokeless
rifle in 1886..or later for some units. looking at this at present
the Graz rifle being the main weapon of choice from 1883-85
cheers
Ged
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Once in Tonkin and Formosa , it took little time for new arrivals to realise their official kit did not stand up to the heat or weather ( Carnot) accordingly they adopted locally made kit or swapped kit
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Chaps and Helen
an update...……...just commissioned more fusilier marines/ boat
crews and more Tonkinese rifles..another officer or two
Torrid weather understandably affecting sculpt speed. :o
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Ged
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Excellent news Ged, are there more Legionaires in the mix?
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thanks Geoff :D
looking at that at present
cheers
Ged
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thanks Chaps...……..having studied this period for
ages I agree with Marco in his comments. the main
aim for me is to show some variance in uniform types
especially with the officers and of course other ranks
Belgian you could of course use these figures for Dahomey
the main difference being the adoption of the lebel smokeless
rifle in 1886..or later for some units. looking at this at present
the Graz rifle being the main weapon of choice from 1883-85
cheers
Ged
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Thanks guys, no expert so happy to field these on the tabletop despite the differences ;)
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cheers Belgian!! :D
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Ged
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French Marine infantry and officers sent to Griffin moulds
yesterday! en avant!! :D
cheers
Ged
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You will have my order shortly
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thanks Geoff! :D
cheers
Ged
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Chaps and Helen
should have some New realeases by the end of the
month ……………. :D 8)
and a Blog update...……..
cheers
Ged
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Excellent news
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Looking forward to them.
Mark
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many thanks Mark :D
cheers
Ged
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Chaps and Helen
should have some New realeases by the end of the
month ……………. :D 8)
and a Blog update...……..
cheers
Ged
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Best wishes for their release.
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cheers Helen 8)
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Ged
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waiting on Greens for New Marine fusiliers..boat crew more
officers,,,and Tonkinese riflemen :D
cheers
Ged
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Ooooooo my Green addiction is getting serious
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you know there is no cure for greenstuffitiss Geoff lol lol
cheers
Ged
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delivery from Griffin today...…….Naval Marines and
assorted officers...…...on site in about 10 days or so :D
cheers
Ged
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Excellent news
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Looking forward to them Ged.
Mark
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Geoff and Mark
many thanks!! ;)
cheers
Ged
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Big pile of Greens has arrived for Tonkin..hope to post some pictures as
soon as im able :D
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Ged
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Naval /Marine officer Tonkin 1885 coming
soon for our New range...
cheers
Ged
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Great character figure
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I'm going to like the naval figures.
Mark
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Geoff and Mark
many thanks men! :D
cheers
Ged
Mark..more Naval stuff to come! :D
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update
waiting on a delivery of Marines and officers..
then will release as I do not have sufficient stocks
at present and need to meet demand
etc ……….10 to 21 days... :D
cheers
Ged
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ps new commission just sent out!
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That's great news Ged, thanks for the update
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cheers Geoff :D
regards
Ged
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update ref Marines and officers
I hope to be in a position to
release the first of my Marines
and officers at the end of next week :D
cheers
Ged
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Excellent news
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update ref Marines and officers
I hope to be in a position to
release the first of my Marines
and officers at the end of next week :D
cheers
Ged
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Looking forward to seeing them.
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Helen and Geoff..merci !!
cheers
Ged
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update ref Marines and officers
I hope to be in a position to
release the first of my Marines
and officers at the end of next week :D
cheers
Ged
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Sounds like a plan. lol
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indeed young Mark ;)
maybe even sooner!!
cheers
Ged
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You just tease our addiction!
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cheers Geoff :
extra stock has arrived..
nearly on launchpad ;)
regards
Ged
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First of our Marine infantry and officers just released
for our Tonkin range
en avant! :D :D :D :D :
cheers
Ged
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lol lol lol lol lol :o :o
Mark
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When will the naval figures be released?
Mark
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Mark Marine fusiliers ,Sailors.Captains etc with Griffin jjp ltd release
date about ten weeks or less hopefully :D
cheers
Ged
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So right .now it's just the Marine infantry?
Mark
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He teases us all, I just couldn't resist order now in, and already the lead addiction withdrawal shakes are back....lol!
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Mark
that's correct,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,next lot armed sailors et all! ;)
Geoff
we do out best...…….
cheers
Ged
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Oh that's ok.I just didn't know if I should order the new ones now or wait.I don't think I'll wait 10 weeks. lol
Mark
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Mark
I see you..up to you my friend
im knee deep in Marine orders
ar present..may be better to
get a few now. ;D :o 8) :-* o_o ::) ;)
cheers
Ged
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ok I Will. lol
Mark
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Ordered! lol ;D :D o_o
Mark
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cheers Mark 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
regards
Ged
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Received the new castings today, beautiful sculpts , well done Ged
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thanks Geoff
mon pleasure old chap ;)
cheers
Ged
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chaps
attached picture of Tonkin command using my Ching Chinese and
Black flags ..gells nicely
fab brushwork by RAFA
Cheers
Ged
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Rafa!!! :o ¡Ay, caramba!
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Love the Senior Mandarin
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Great figures.
Mark
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thanks Chaps :D
cheers
Ged
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ps another pic attached "converted " Black flags more tasty RAFA :o
files too big ,,oops rewind post!lol
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Find this 2 volumes official history of the French Campaigns in Tonkin/Indochine....in French but with plenty of maps/Toes/picts
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k6546680g.r=Historique%20Tirailleurs?rk=42918;4
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Italwars.great post thanks ;)
More Tonkin figures expected within the month
a mixed bag this time
cheers
Ged
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ps and more commissioned :D
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Nice picture of annamese rifles
cheers
Ged
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oops wrong pic! :(
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this pic :o
very atmospheric and welll captured :-*
cheers
Ged
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Although latter these photos show the uniforms
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indeed Geoff
they kept the integral basic look which
suited them well
more of these chaps en route :D
cheers
Ged
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Fascinating pictures Shipka! :o
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I don't know where you guys find all these great photos.
Mark
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Lateral internet searching
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more to come Mark :D...………
cheers
Ged
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Griffin moulds have delivered a pile of New Tonkin
figs,,,waiting on their next deliveries to build uo
stocks,,,then New releases :D
cheers
Ged
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Sounds good.Received my marines Ged. Thank you.Is the next group the Navy?
Mark
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I hope the next group will be the Auxiliaries
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Recently i've studied quite in deep this conflict...from a wargame point of view is very playable because :
1) good information also if in French but with many TOEs and maps
2) few troops involved (i m referring above all to French) so with no more than 40 (scaled) casting and maybe few more up to double pavillons noirs you can reconstruct real battles
3) very detailed maps of small battles available
see for example this downloadable French book:
https://archive.org/details/encolonnesouveni00hugu?q=en+colonne+Huguet
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Mark
your quite right Navy next , plus command
and more Annamese rifles, including command
at NCO level
cheers
Ged
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Geoff
another release of Ananmese rifles inclusive
of trumpeter and NCO...
Cheers
Ged
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italwars
you couldn't be more right...
battles like Son Tay included
Zouaves and Turcos..gunboats
as well as Marines..so larger
forces were involved as well
as the small skirmishes,,
great post by the way..thanks
regards
Ged
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Has anyone painted any of the Legionaires as yet .?
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The leader of the Vietnamese forces who defended the citadel of Son Tay
Hoàng Kế Viêm
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great pic Geoff
cheers
Ged
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and one from me …………..28mm French gunboat "Revolver" coming soon for
my Tonkin 1885 range..en avant mes braves! :D
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Tang_Jingsong leader of the Chinese forces at Son Tay,
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Love the painted gunboat
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I want that gunboat! :-*
Mark
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Mark and Geoff many thanks building stocks of all my boats :D :D :D :D :D
cheers
Ged
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picture of French Torpedo boat no45 i believe Tonkin 1885 28mm...en route soonish!
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Love your fleet Ged!
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many thanks Helen..more in the dry dock!! :D
cheers
Ged
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Attacking the Gunboat
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great print Geoff one of my favourites! :D
cheers
Ged
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many thanks Helen..more in the dry dock!! :D
cheers
Ged
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Good news Ged!
All the best,
Helen
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will post more Naval craft as soon as im able
cheers
Ged
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Tonkinois
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Illustrations of French artillery
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I hope you're sculpting the seated leaders, or even just one of the two.
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nice prints Geoff
there will be some more Black flag leaders Fastolfus :D
cheers
Ged
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Excellent news on more Black Flag leaders, hope we will see Vietnamese and Chinese regulars in the fullness of gime
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gathering together as much information as im able
on the CHAMPA peoples of Vietnam and their splendid
buildings and statues for my Salute 2019 game on Tonkin
..different from the norm and totally fascinating..books
on the subject are hard to come by..decent ones that is..
ordered a few..should make for some interesting temples
etc!
cheers
Ged
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Pheeeeew ! This will be difficult to make such complex temples :o
Maybe take a look on miniatures buildings for aquarium !?
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Champa temples for Tonkin?, that is very unusual
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They are beautiful though. :-*
Mark
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A nice pic I found
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thanks Chaps..great input
a lot of these temples have survived
to date..all pictures welcomed
just bought some informative books
on the subject with great pictures
of statues etc...
:)
cheers
Ged
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Ref Colours
I hope to have a limited supply of some of
my New Tonkin releases with me at Colours
as my site will hopefully be updated Saturday..
all a bit close to the wire and how fast i can pack
figures lol :o :-* lol o_o ::) ??? 8)
cheers
Ged
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chaps and Helen
after an excellent Colours show ..just a note to
say I have released a swathe of French fusilier marines
and French Naval Captains,Senoir office a nd Naval boat crew
much more to follow :o :-* o_o :D ;) :) ::)
regards
Ged
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Exce!lent news Ged just placed my order
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I ordered mine also.
Mark
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Hi Ged !
Do you plan to make naval artillery crews !?
(For a gunboat as an exemple)
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http://www.gringo40s.com/french-naval-crew.html
Byblos some of the crew can be found on this link
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For little guns or machine guns OK , but for 164 or 194 mm gun !? (Heavy guns)
This crew will be a little too light i think !?
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chaps and Helen
after an excellent Colours show ..just a note to
say I have released a swathe of French fusilier marines
and French Naval Captains,Senoir office a nd Naval boat crew
much more to follow :o :-* o_o :D ;) :) ::)
regards
Ged
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Thanks Ged for the update. Glad to read you had an excellent show.
Best regards,
Helen
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cheers Helen! :D
regards
Ged
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just a note to say the next wave of Tonkin figures
are well underway :o
cheers
Ged
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When will the gunboat be available?
Mark
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The gunboats are great! Do You have some reference links for them, Ged?
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I hope to have the gunboat and maybe the sampan for CRISIS 2018
ie end October 2018...……..
details of the Navy will be in my book as im mid-translation
at present
commissioned another batch on top of the last batch i commissioned :o :-* o_o :o :-* 8) :D
regards
Ged
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All sounds good Ged. :D
Mark
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Excellent news Ged
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thanks chaps! :D
cheers
Ged
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Chaps and Helen
I will be releasing the Sampan early ie
in about ten days or maybe less, and
the French Gunboat for CRISIS
:D
many thanks
Ged
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I will have to purchase a berth
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I will be in for the gunboat. :D
Mark
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thanks Mark ;)
and Geoff
cheeers
Ged
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All sounds very exciting Ged, thanks for the heads-up on the flotilla.
Best wishes,
Helen
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cheers Helen :D
regards
Ged
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we have just released our 28mm Black flag Sampan :D
cheers
Gedwww.gringp40s.com
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Ordered so my Black Flags can get across The Red River!
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Two sampans winging their way to Guam to reinforce my fleet! ;D
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thanks chaps all noted and received ;)
cheers
Ged
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8)
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Just got my first Sampan in the post, it's a beautiful model well done GED
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thank you Geoff..pleased you like the model :D
regards
Ged
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update
waiting on a New set of Greens………….not too long now!
for Tonkin :D
cheers
Ged
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#
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Feed the addiction more goodies, any hints for which of the combatants?.......
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Geoff...………...indeed :D
ok...I have had to split the latest commissions into three
lots
the first lot I can mention and things are a bit flexiable
at the moment and I only confirm whats actually in
progress and will be heading my way
1 French fusilier Marine Marching
2.French Fuslier Marine kneeling firing
3 a bunch of Algerian Turcos...with the correct pith
helmet.though I want to and will have some with
the soft nightcap on
4. and lastly a Black flag commander..possibly armoured
:o :-* o_o 8) :D :o :-* ??? 8) 8)
cheers
Ged
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Your really pumping them out.
Mark
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indeed Mark....flat out on the assembly line!! :D
cheers
Ged
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picture of the earlier 28mm French Gunboat in combat with
a 28mm Junk both will be available from Gringo40s as soon as
im able to sort out the multitude of parts and boxes!
cheers
Ged
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Looking good Ged
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cheers Geoff :D
regards
Ged
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At present sorting out boats I intend to release
at CRISIS 2018 for sure the Revolver...and
possibly another one or two,,,,if all elements
come together in time
Also waiting on New Greens for further
infantry additions to the range :D :) 8) :-*
cheers
Ged
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Ged,
What exactly do you have releasing in boats.I can't keep up. :D
Mark
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Mark
a bit the same for me lol
boats releases
1. Sampan..released and available (vietnamese/chinese)
to be released for sure
just befor/at CRISIS 3/11/2018
Revolver Gunboat :o :-*
two other boats the Sleek Torpedo boat
and the ex whaler steam Torpedo boat..
are hopefuls! NB all above are French cicra 1885
lastly will be the HUGE junk..over 16inches
long loaded with cannon etc..TBA
that's a brief roundup matey!
cheers
Ged
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Thanks Ged. Are there going to be Chinese sailors?That's probably a stupid question. ::) lol
Mark
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Mark
looking at the Chinese Naval side as we speak
their is a Chinese Naval Captain and others
in the mix! :D
Chinese Naval flags will be released in the
near future as well/ ;)
cheers
Ged
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http://www.tinywargames.co.uk
Following a chat with Tiny War games Mats, they have coloured one of their water mats to resemble The water flowing along The Perfume River, so for those of you looking to game the naval actions , this will be ideal
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good match colour wise Geoff :D
cheers
Ged
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I believe some New Greens will be en route very soon
en avant mes braves!!
cant wait!
regards
Ged
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Sampans have arrived safely on Guam! Quite the sail lol
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excellent news Marianas Gamer! :D
regards
Ged
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quick peak of one of our New forthcoming Tonkin figures
a French Turco/Zouave officer special for the range
:D
cheers
Ged
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and a 28mm Turco/Zouave...(second uniform)
cheers
Ged
www.gringo40s,com
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When did the second style uniform come into effect?
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uniform correct for Turcos and also worn by Zouaves keo top
and baggy trousers..Zouaves also wore the famous Jacket..
uniform were almost identical and interchangeable..the climate
played with supplies so "make do" was almost de regiour.
cheers
Ged
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Cần Vương partisans
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Tonkinese
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Zouave Officer
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nice selection of pics old chap :D
cheers
Ged
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Chaps and Helen
Gringo40s hope to have
three extra boats ready for CRISIS 3/11/2018 :D
1.Revolver Gunboat 1885
2 Torpedo boat no45 1885
3 Steam launch Torpedo boat 1885
as Sampan is out and avaialble now
the Junk will be out by Xmas..
cheers
Ged
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Nearly there on Navy boat release...working on boxes and contents
pictures to follow of almost finished artwork :D
cheers
Ged
www.gringo40s.com
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I want this baby.
Mark
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A real beauty! It will be a hit!
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thank you Gents
that's two I will save :D :D :D :D
best regards
Ged
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Lovely looking model, when I start my Navy will order one
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thanks Geoff :D
cheers
Ged
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and a picture of the French Naval torpedo steam launch :D
cheers
Ged
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Great looking boat
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Nice boat Ged.
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Is that a spar torpedo that the crewman is extending?
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Good thing I'm getting some overtime. lol
Mark
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thanks Helen :D
and Gents...........
Marianas it is indeed a Spar Torpedo..mosr effective if the dteam launch made contasct with the enemey boat!
BTW
the actual crew in the box will be the Captain potrayed and two sailors
on sitting open handed but holding a shovel for the coal and another
with hand on the tiller..again open handed so can be used to hold pole etc
cheers
Ged
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The "naval power" is simply wonderful - especially the gunboat.
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Metternich
appreciate the kind words!
thank you :D
regards
Ged
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Chaps and Helen
good News I have released today in time for CRISIS 2018
three of my French Naval boats
1.the "Revolver" gunboat 1885( can be used for Franco -Prussian war as well)
2boat NO 45 torpedo boat 1885
3French Naval torpedo steam launch 1885
all under "Tonkin French Naval boats" :D ;)
cheers
Ged
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Taking Geds leed, I have had some Marine Infantry castings painted as early Legionaires
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very nice paintwork Geoff...………
nice idea with the legion troops :D
cheers
Ged
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Chaps and Helen
good News I have released today in time for CRISIS 2018
three of my French Naval boats
1.the "Revolver" gunboat 1885( can be used for Franco -Prussian war as well)
2boat NO 45 torpedo boat 1885
3French Naval torpedo steam launch 1885
all under "Tonkin French Naval boats" :D ;)
cheers
Ged
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Lovely work Ged. This will be an excellent range, well done.
Best wishes,
Helen
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Helen ,appreciated as ever :D ;)
regards
Ged
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More stock from Griffin arrive tommrrow..Turcos and more!
cheers
Ged
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Sounds great!
Mark
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cheers Mark! ;)
regards
Ged
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Turcos yipee great news!
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cheers Geoff ;)
regards
Ged
www.gringo40s.com
……………..a BIG box of em!! :o :-* :o :-* :o :-*
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When I click on the French boats and naval crew links on the Gringo site there is nothing there...
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Did you go where it says Tonkin?put your arrow on that and a dropdown box shows up.
Mark
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Any pictures of the Turcos?
Mark
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Got it. Thanks Marco!
Did you go where it says Tonkin?put your arrow on that and a dropdown box shows up.
Mark
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Got it. Thanks Marco!
:D
Mark
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just back from a splendid CRISIS ,and need to sort out the next pile of Tonkin
releases....should be out just before Warfare
cheers
Ged :o :-* :D ;)
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This week would be good!!!!
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next week is almost as good old chap ;) :o :-* o_o 8) :)
Warfare is Saturday week,,,so its close for me! yikees!! 8)
cheers
Ged
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more Tonkin greens received ...mainly wildlife!! :o :-* :o :-*
cheers
Ged
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What wildlife? You tease. Pictures please.
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I will go hunting with Monsieur Cronin
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pics to be posted chaps when I get a mo :-* o_o :o 8) :D :P
cheers
Ged
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A moment in your life Ged is a thing of Quantum physics, even Stephen Hawkins could not quantify it!
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not far off at the moment young Geoff!! :D ;)
regards
Ged
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Gringos40 have released the first of the Turcos and some more French Marines today with more to come!
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indeed Geoff. ;)..……….extra French Fusilier Marines :D and the dreaded Zouaves...
basically deadly cannon fodder!! more of these chaps to follow later :-* :o
cheers
Ged
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Picture of a Vietnamese Tiger 1885...…………
there were over 25,000.00 then
18-20 left
cheers
Ged
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and two poor pictures of New Monkeys
and parrots to come for Tonkin 1885
and anywhere else warm and humid!!
leafy and sultry!!! :o :-*
figs look nuch better in the putty :D
cheers
Ged
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four very much alive parrots (dead parrot sketch from MP) 8)
Cheers
Ged
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Love the monkeys and Tiger
https://youtu.be/9t26rxDhsuw
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Yup, like'em a lot :-* The monkeys and parrots will eventually wing their way to Guam.
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thanks Geoff and Marianas :D 8)
cheers
Ged
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more Tonkin additions undwerway :D :o 8) :-* o_o ;)
cheers
Ged
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Lolol any hints?
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The Revolver arrived in port today.I am very happy with this model.
Mark
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many thanks Mark ;)
attached first of our forthcoming New releases
Black Flag Supreme commander 8)
back and front (side) view
cheers
Ged
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and second
cheers
Ged
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Very nice, can't wait to get a few!
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cheers Geoff :D
regards
Ged
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Looks good Ged,show us more. :D
Mark
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Mark
more French Marines to come ..being sculpted ;)
great pic attached...……….I may be tempted!! :o :-* o_o ;)
cheers
Ged
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That's good as I need a little break until after the holidays.
Mark
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I'm thinking that, as well as the usual rules suspect's, most of these figures would also be very suitable for IHMN. Well, it's a good excuse to get a few to be getting on with anyway. :D
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Ged, go on ! Be tempted by those guys mending the defences !
But don't forget more sailors o actually sail the ships (;-)JM
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matakakea IHMN interesting...……..some of the figs have multi-period
use as well.Africa.......Sudan...........
regards
Ged
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JM
not forgotten old chap...mentioned this to my sculpter today
along with the HUGE list he has still for Tonkin!...artillery
is to the fore..so those Gun crews need expanding et all!
more wildlife ...and some cavalry..yep you heard it right
cavalry in Vietnam... :o :-* o_o 8) :)
cheers
Ged
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Don't forget Legionaires in campaign dress and Negrier pouches!
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attached first of our forthcoming New releases
Black Flag Supreme commander 8)
back and front (side) view
cheers
Ged
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Stunning miniature Ged!
All the best,
Helen
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Geoff
not forgotten...... :D
Helen
most kind of you ;) :D
regards
Ged
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NB
working on New additions to the range :D
cheers
Ged
www.gringo40s.com
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Excellent news
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Painted examples of French Legtonaires figures painted as French Marine Infantry
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They look really good.
Mark
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I have only one painted so far.I also have this one from Victoria's Miniatures that I think fits nicely with the Tonkin range
Mark
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nice work on my figure Mark :D
great shading et all! 8)
cheers
Ged
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Not by me but a transplanted Brit. :D
Mark
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Who is the officer from? MARC
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I got him from Victoria's Miniatures in Australia.I had seen one that Angel from Oniria Miniatures had painted up and liked it and I came across it by accident.I don't see it in their catalog anymore.They are mostly Victorian sci-fi.He is a tad smaller then Ged's but would work with them. https://victoriaminiatures.com/.
Mark
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Here is Angel's version.
Mark
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Angel a sublime painter! :-* :o
regards
Ged
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another painted BLack flag
cheers
Ged
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Very nice, shows the extensive possibilities
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cheers Geoff :D
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update
Tonkin wildlife..Tiger..Monkeys and Parrots (part one)
and Black Flag commander with Griffin moulds today
waiting on more French Marines and a surprise unit
on the Greens front,
cheers
Ged
www.gringo40s.com :o :-* 8) :) :D o_o
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next releases early New Year 2019 :D
cheers
Ged
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Sounds great Ged.
Mark
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cheers Mark
will have the New greens back before xmas
then off to Griffin moulds....for early new
year to be added to the other New releases
cheers
Ged
www.gringo40s.com
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Next up for Gringo40s Tonkin range
more French Marines
black flag commander
and
Spahi Senegalese...mounted Algerian red devils!! :o :-* o_o :D
cheers
Ged
www.gringo40s.com
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Were the Spahi Senegalais Algerian? I thought they were West African.The Spahi of the Armee D'Afrique were Algerian.
Mark
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Mixture Mark...with mainly white officers..but heavy percentage
of Algerians as were the Turcos….west African troops feature later
old chap!! ;)
cheers
Ged
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another Spahi picture... :o :-* o_o :)
cheers
Ged
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Were they wearing this headless in Tonkin?
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more like the black and white picture Geoff
coloured picture is an officer where they had
their own interpretation and latitude in dress
cheers
Ged
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Indochinese Spahis
Short-lived cavalry units designated as "spahis" were raised by the French Colonial Army in Indochina. The first of these was a squadron of spahis recruited from Cochinchina in 1861 and disbanded in 1871. The second was a small detachment of "Spahis Tonkinese" raised in Tonkin in 1883 and disestablished in 1889 for budgetary reasons
From the book "Les Linh Tap. (Can be had via Amazon)
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Spshi squadron arrived today officer ,trumpeter and troopers
and suitable arab style horse along with a a swathe of
French Marines.including active NCO and trumpeter
Greens only..off to Griffin tomorrow before the xmas
festivities..
cheers Ged/Gringo40s
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next up more boat crew..artillery and gunners for the French
then will look at the oposition :D
cheers
Ged
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Can't wait for the artillery and crew
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Me too! lol
Mark
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first up a quick peek at the first of the Spahi Sengalis Squadron 1885 Tonkin campaign
coming soon :D
cheers
Ged
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Are you sure that's Spahis Senegalais? Looks like Spahis from Armee D'Afrique.
Mark
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This is what I picture them as.
Mark
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Don't get me wrong I like the green Ged put up very much. ;D
Mark
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Mark
glad you like the figure....ok lets explain the collective name for the Spahi
were Des Spahis Senegalais a la garde rouge if we take their natural progression
for my Tonkin Campaign these Spahi are Algerians ..so to call them Spahi Algerians would be correct...the Spahi Senegalais depicted above and shown by me in an earlier post are the uniforms worn in Dahomey,,,,much later and worn in that campaign up to 1900..the figures im doing are correct for Tonkin..more Arabic in style and more useful for many campaigns. the unit is still in being with the appellation "la Garde Rouge..
cheers
Ged
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The Spahis pictured above would be perfect for "Soudan Occidental" (Western Sudan) = modern Mali and surrounding areas campaigns. :)
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Thanks for the info guys.
Mark
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More Spahi pictures 1/2 :D
cheers
Ged
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and last picture for the moment Spahi related :D
cheers
Ged
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:D :D :-* lol
Mark
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Like the animation.
Mark
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many thanks Mark
cheers
Ged
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Lovely work Ged from your Sculptor.
Best wishes,
Helen
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cheers Helen hes done a cracker of a job for sure :D
exactly what I wished for...and destined to be one of
my favourite units! 8)
regards
Ged
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Not very accurate picture but captures
the feel of the period :D
cheers
Ged
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* TONKIN CHOCOLATE.jpg (72.42 kB, 512x364 - viewed 210 times.)
About the Sergent Bobillo displayed on this chocolate box : Jules Bobillot enlisted in th 4th Engineer rgt in 1883, aged 23. Quickly promoted a Sergeant due to his diploms, he volunteered for the Tonkin campaign in 84. He displayed a great courage during the Tuyen Quang siege, where he was mortally wounded. he died in 1885. He became a national hero for his courage under fire.
The picture on the box display the same pose as a statue of Sgt Bobillo displayed in Paris, but sadly this statue was destroyed by the germans during their occupation of Paris in 1942.
I hope it helps,
Fred
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Fred
many thanks for the interesting story
never heard that :D
regards
Ged
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Really interesting!
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Ged,
That book you talked about before is it going to be a uniform guide of the French colonial forces in the 1880's-90's?
Mark
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Mark
not sure exactly ..I have a lot to consider
but will cover large areas you mention!
i have lots of plans for this era..
book wise that is .just need
to find the time! :D :D
cheers
Ged
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Hope I live long enough for all this stuff! lol
Mark
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you and me both Mark ;) ;D lol o_o
Spahi and New Marines sent to Griffin moulds today,,,,,,,,,,,,,, :D
cheers
Ged
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Black flag commander released now :D
cheers
Ged
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another pic of him...needs blacks eyes sorting out new pic
will be added on site!! :D
cheers
Ged
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latest pictures a couple of our French Turco/Zouave officer
painted up as a Turco office Tonkin 1885
cheers
Ged
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and the other picture same chap different angle :D
cheers
Ged
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Beautiful workmanship
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A sculpt with very detailed features, realistic posture and well painted! Great!
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thanks Chaps :D
cheers
Ged
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and a picture of an Algerian Turco as he would
have looked in Tonkin..with the faded deep sky blue
jacket given to the troops as a nod to their Zouave/turco
unifrom more like a second combat coat
cheers
Ged
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A super rendition Ged, love the faded colour
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thanks Geoff :D
more Turcos attached...………….
part of the large group of display
troops for the Tonkin game at Salute 2019 8)
cheers
Ged
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hoping to have some mounted Sphai by the end of February :D
cheers
Ged
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Sounds good.
Mark
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cheers Mark ;)
regards
Ged
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Marine officer Tonkin 1885 :D
campaign dress........... 8)
cheers
Ged
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First rate sculpt, first rate painting! :-*
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Dinthedin many thanks!
:D
cheers
Ged
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More beautiful figs!!!! What an impressive figure line this has turned out to be. It looks as if this will be a complete and independent line for the Tonkin campaign. It think many of these figs will be useful in other campaigns as well.
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JBaumal many thanks for the kind comments... :D ;)
there are many more releases to come as you say
for a complete range as I can make it. 8)
regards
Ged
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and some French Fusilier Marines painted by Rafa I believe rather superbly
cheers
Ged
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superb paint job from my mate Colin
on this rugged French Fusilier Marine
in summer dress 1885 in good old
North Vietnam...the Nam of the 1900s :D
cheers
Ged
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Those are great paint jobs on both Fusilier Marines!!! This whole range is very exciting and motivational. It looks as if the Tonkin campaign is going to become my next project.
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JBAUMAL many thanks indeed ..appreciated
loads more to come!! :D
cheers
Ged
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a brace of Vietnamese Tigers added to the game im hosting
at Salute 2019
from our exotic wildlife range.
cheers
Ged
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Purr-fect
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Well done Geoff :D lol
cheers
Ged
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They are the 'cat's whiskers'
(I'll get my coat)
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lol lol ta Has.been
cheers
Ged
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another painted French fuslier Marine 1885 in summer dress
cheers
Ged
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update ref next releases for Tonkin 1885
1. mounted Spahi squadron.
2.more Marines
these two aformentioned releases will be first before Salute
hopfully :D.
cheers
Ged
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second update
forthcoming releases hopefully in time for Salute 2019
1.French 80mm Mountain Gun..and caisson
2.land crew for said gun
3.french fusilier Marine crew for 80mm Mountain Gun
4.more French Marines Naval crew and gunners for
Revolver main gun
5.French General
6.Black flag NCOs
7.Black flag Tiger men (can be used for Peking campaign as can all black flags)
cheers Ged www.gringo40s.com :o :o :o :o :o
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Your range is really expanding quickly.
Mark
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cheers Mark ;) :D
regards
Ged
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All of this is excellent news
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cheers Geoff
:D :regards
Ged
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another French Fusilier Marin Tonkin 1885 summer drill/dress
cheers
Ged
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Lolol nice can you paint some for me!
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cheers Geoff :D
regards
Ged
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more Tonkin relases en route :D :o :-* o_o
cheers
Ged
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Ged, the link you posted does not appear to be working!
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thanks Geoff indeed//formatting problem
preceeding info fine
cheers
Ged
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Tonkin 1885 range has a stack of New releases en route
cheers
Ged
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peek at the first of our prospective releases the French 80mm mountain
gun crewed by land artillery guys..a very useful weapon in a difficult campaign
cheers
Ged
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This is superb Ged
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thank you Geoff
:D
cheers
Ged
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I don't know if I can resist these much longer 'wow"
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juergen………….thanks as ever!! :o :-* o_o ;) 8)
regards
Ged
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New additions to our French Marines for Tonkin 1885 just
released and on our site....one of these is attached.the bugler! :o
:D
cheers
Ged
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S P A H I :o :-* :o :-*coming soon....!! Algerian red 8)horsedevils!!
for Tonkin 1885
cheers
Ged
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S P A H I :o :-* :o :-*coming soon....!! Algerian red 8)horsedevils!!
for Tonkin 1885
Is there anything that marks them out as being specifically for Tonkin? Otherwise I eventually will have to get some for a Death in the Dark Continent force ;D
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Matakakea……………..not especially they were slow to change so could be
used for loads of periods
unit of sorts still around today. :D
cheers
Ged
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A very useful figure and superbly painted too!
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cheers Dinthedin :D ;)
another Spahi fig
or two!!! :D
cheers
Ged
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They look great! :-*
Mark
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thanks Mark! ;)
cheers
Ged
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Algerian Spahi in French service 1885 in Tonkin
just released!1 :D
on our site www.gringo40s.com
ps on one pic you are unable to see slung rifle
that will be changed
regards
Ged
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I love the Saphi figs and the gun crew! Awesome sculpts. And agreed, superbly painted.
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JBaumal many thanks for the kind comments!! ;)
cheers
Ged
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Chaps and Helen ...work in progress for our Tonkin 1885 game at Salute
should be a belter!
regards
Ged
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Wow! Looking good!
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I cannot wait to see the finished table
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Coming out great!
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thanks chaps one and all :D
progressing well..will post further
updates
regards
Ged
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Gringos40's Black Flag commander
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splendid Geoff
first time I have seen him painted :D
cheers
Ged
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Great paintjob! The face so well done!!!
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more releases before Salute en route!! :D
cheers
Ged
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More progress on Salute Game Tonkin 1885
cheers
Ged
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Fab paintjob by Sascha Herm of one of my Spahi!
cheers
Ged
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Holy - that looks amazing Ged (and Sascha)!
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ECHO THAT SENTIMENT
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cheers keith! ;)
and Geoff 8)
regards
Ged
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And a closeup..... :o
cheers
Ged
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And a closeup..... :o
Dafuq.
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Aerendar
i concur!! :D
cheers
Ged
ps made me look twice!!
when i saw the pic...total
attention to detail!!
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Impeccable! Bravo!!!
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That is simply beautiful painting. The horse furniture is stunning.
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Thanks for the splendid feedback chaps :D
attached pic of part of large Tonkin release pre Salute 8)
cheers
Ged
(Marine/land artillery manning 80mm mountain gun Tonkin 1885
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New releases now available...…..
French marine/land artilleryand crew
French fusilier marine artillery and crew
French Mule drawn caisson
French General
Black flag artillery and crew
black flag general
Imperial Chinese Tonkin period Tiger men
Black flag Ncos
cheers Ged www.gringo40s.com :D
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The new releases are great such character, love the guns and crews for both sides
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thanks Geoff!! :D
cheers
Ged
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French fusilier marine artillery in action :D
cheers
Ged
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I...will...resist...the...urge...
(Who am I kidding? Sooner or later, I will yield to temptation!)
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Antonio....as they say you can resist anything apart from Temptation..!!! :D
regards
Ged
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and theres more figures to come!!
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Hmm, when I was looking at the Tonkin range I did not see anything like Black Flag artillery or crew? I did read your announcement on the 14th here as far as I can see it's not on the website.
It's OK though, I ordered plenty of figs already from this range :)
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chech the black flag listing they have been included in there i believe
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MGH
high there....Black Flag artillery and crew is available
its on the long Black flag list on site!! :D
regards
Ged
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Ahhh, I see it now. I didn't check the long list but went to the inside list and it wasnt there. Dang! I would have ordered a set.
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MGH next time!! ;).
to cheers you up picture of Gringo40s Tonkin game ..small section
of port
cheers
Ged
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Excellent photo.
Look forward to seeing the table done.
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Marine0846 so am I!!! :D
cheers
Ged
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I take it that the large colonial building is sratch built. Superb work.
Any chance of some close ups?
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Has,been
all scratch built for the Gringo40s game at Salute 2019 by David st TM Terrain...
I agree its a lovely piece of kit taken from an old French Colonial photo I had. close ups will be supplied...probably nearer the game :D
cheers
Ged
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Thanks I'll look forward to that.
By the way if you are going to chuck it after Salute, please chuck it my way.
I am hoping to do French Indo-China using the Empress Miniature figures.
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High Ged
This is Philippe... remember me?
Well I have a book that could be an interesting source for you.
Edited by Lavauzelle, you may know that prestigious military history french editor, at the very end of nineteenth century:
by Le Commandant breveté Chabrol du 161e régiment d'infanterie
Opérations militaires au Tonkin
parts include history of the operations between 1885 and 1895, more than 50 very detailed descriptions of "affaires" (skirmishes to battles, some with maps) and finaly an in-depth analysis of the best tactics that should be used (as it is adressed to the Etat Major).
My Jewell of Indo-China!
Cheers
Philippe
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Philippe il s’agit d un livre exceptionnel !!!
But the other good news is that you can find and download it free on line thanks to that great archive that is Gallica!..just write the title on the search motor..by the way I posted the very link of that book on a tread just before the beginning of Gringo Tonkin’line..the maps and the detailed battle orders ,many involving just a few troops, are , in practice, some ready made wargame skirmish scenarios...
Thanks to remember us that source Philippe👍🏻
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Oh I didn't notice! Poor me I kind of slammed an open door!
It's great to find such an erudite company! I'll be more humble and read carefully now. lol
Philippe
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Pallard many thanks indeed for the input....I have managed to obtain some
quite rare books on Tonkin and am slowly working on them...the book you mention would be a great addition..As Italwars quite rightly says you can download for free...I like to get an orginal and download..best of both worlds
thanks Men!! :D
regards
Ged
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Hi Ged
Can this book be downloaded in french or english?
Philippe
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I do not think that you have to belong to what you called an erudite company” to know that a 19c. book called “campagnes au Tonkin” , published by Lavauzelle, scanned, hosted and offered by Gallica thanks to Bibliothèque Nationale de France, has no chance at all to be in English !
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Italwars
I'm sorry for no replying to your first post where you mentioned the link. Just registered and so I'm quite clumsy with the process yet.
You certainly seem to read french. Do you speak as well?
Philippe
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Ged
What a marvellous range this is!
I was planning a colonial Tonkin project for my not-so-far-away old days of retirement... you must be my nemesis, how come can I resist long enough.
Tough times coming with my lady treasurer. Not to say the sheer amount of lead that stands to be painted.
And what about my saharian project (l'escadron blanc chasing Tuareg or Berabers ) on the shelf... with those nice spahis sénégalais begging to join in!
At least you don't do Italians and Ethiopians... my last pure carnal-free dream... as yet!
Philippe
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You certainly seem to read french. Do you speak as well?
Philippe
Ca dépend..peut etre..quand'il s'agit d'une jolie nana ;)
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italwars en avant mes braves!! ;)
Philippe
I have to admit im a bit partial to la France and the Colonial era
as you rightly say my Sengalise Spahi could be redeployed :o o_o :D
regards
Ged
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Italwars, je crois que je pédale dans la pizza là! Français?
Ged, you got me hooked!
Philippe
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What set of rules do you prefer? I'm particularly interested with skirmish level.
Philippe
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Pallard
just written a set with a good mate..for commercial production
apres Salute where they will have their first outing
en avant!!
regards
Ged
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Italwars, je crois que je pédale dans la pizza là! Français?
Mais non Philippe je suis tout à fait Italien de souche ;) and always happy to correspond with French wargamers about their rich military and colonial history.
Me too i love Tonkin campaigns..i must also admit that my favourite wargame and historical research period is French Colonial..(plus in a minor way British, Italian, Belgian and German ones..) above all Afrique Occidentale et Equatoriale Francaise and Maroc..i've plenty of minis for those fronts...Tonkin range seem very interesting..unfortunatly (for me of course) they are big miniatures if compared with other manufactures..but i'm beginning to think that they can be fielded without problems , once painted, with others...i'm just painting, in that very moment, the mounted Raisuli mini from Gringo..as a Moroccan Pasha for a Colonial historical scenario, gamed with The Sword and The Flame rule systhem special amendments for French Colonial era, setted Morocco that i would like to game this summer....Tonkin range is very tempting above all for figures like Spahis that can be used in various campaigns also in Africa
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Hi Italwars.So I figured right finally! And the jolie nana stuff would have proved it anyway: you ARE Italian! Great.
I have been quite rough not to first respond to your early welcome, but I was like a child in a toy store really! I didn't figure that this forum could host such rich material, having read earlier mostly commonplace posts from time to time out of it. I finally decided to log in and to my surprise this is much more interesting than expected!
I once owned The sword and the flame, but that went missing with my last address change. To tell you the truth, I am from the old school and probably a little bit snobish about the modern lack of ambition (to my taste) of many young players, or lazziness of old hands... the old dog is me probably. I just get bored with remarks like "do we have to be Harvard graduates to read these rules" or " I don't want to get headaches with simulations!" That is why I spoke of "erudition", because it compared to the company I used to play with years ago, to whom such level of knowledge was natural (I was learning much with them). But that once again must be the effect of my aging.
TSATF was my first taste of "modern" rules (I mean post-wrg way). I
admit that this was fun. I however am looking for the set "colonial skirmishes" of old, the one that inspired some parts of the famed "skirmish wargaming" book that you must know of. This is my grail.
Gringo miniatures are large indeed but humans are different anyway and I just received Aztecs from both G40 and The Assault group and intend to use them together
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Or to be exact, will soon receive Gringo's Aztecs... do I have your confirmation Ged?..; lol
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The boobytrap is here: I did a whole jungle forest for the Amazonians and Mayas that preceded the said Aztecs, so with such fantastic looking Tonkin miniatures and my old book that we talked about having be
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having been on my shelves for so many years!!!
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Did you try The Men That would be kings?
I have some Touareg and french meharistes from Black Hat miniatures. Very nice. So these spahis from Gringo are also very tempting!
You must know the novels from Joseph Peyré: l'Escadron blanc, sous l'Etendard vert and Le chef à l'étoile d'argent. Is there the equivalent in Italy? Because we used to be neighbours too in the sahara, with a few Senoussi in between! Of course I have the Hugo Pratt comics.
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Hi Italwars.So I figured right finally! And the jolie nana stuff would have proved it anyway: you ARE Italian! Great.
I have been quite rough not to first respond to your early welcome, but I was like a child in a toy store really! I didn't figure that this forum could host such rich material, having read earlier mostly commonplace posts from time to time out of it. I finally decided to log in and to my surprise this is much more interesting than expected!
I once owned The sword and the flame, but that went missing with my last address change. To tell you the truth, I am from the old school and probably a little bit snobish about the modern lack of ambition (to my taste) of many young players, or lazziness of old hands... the old dog is me probably. I just get bored with remarks like "do we have to be Harvard graduates to read these rules" or " I don't want to get headaches with simulations!" That is why I spoke of "erudition", because it compared to the company I used to play with years ago, to whom such level of knowledge was natural (I was learning much with them). But that once again must be the effect of my aging.
TSATF was my first taste of "modern" rules (I mean post-wrg way). I
admit that this was fun. I however am looking for the set "colonial skirmishes" of old, the one that inspired some parts of the famed "skirmish wargaming" book that you must know of. This is my grail.
Gringo miniatures are large indeed but humans are different anyway and I just received Aztecs from both G40 and The Assault group and intend to use them together
Pas de problème mon ami..and welcome on board ;) 8)
we share similar approach to the games...but i think that "do we have to be Harvard graduates to read these rules ?" its a very fun remark...and could be justified by the fact that is very difficult, at least for me, to find opponents that know the period and wargame rule in general in this case French Colonial , that particular campaign and able to read something which is not in Italian..i suppose you can understand what i mean...TSATF is not a absolutly historical but let feel the trhrilling of a colonial moovie..in fact i must admit that i like colonial for the adventurous pulp approach..
"colonial skirmishes" rule set is very detailed, very good almost scientific approach..interesting to read, to study a composition of a small army and to plan a game with it..also to try to do some solo "battle training" on your table with a handful of minis..but , for my past experience if you try to set a skirmish game, even with no more than 20 minis per side , you will not end even for midnight and probably you ìll close the game or try to continue it the day after..so really not practical..by the way i like the skirmish/role playing approach which the periodand beautuful personalised minis like the ones from Gringo call for that..TSATF could represent an affordable compromise..quite a few of my European minis have been named, i follow a roster/table and some of them, like for example Lt Gardel (or Depardieu ;)) had even so far managed to survive more than one table top battle
So we can conclude that we are all very lucky that Ged (Gringo), even if being from UK, has developped a soft spot for French culture and military history and even for the Italian Risorgimento history...probably he has been "corrupted" by latin dishes/kitchen and wines if compared to his country's niceties like red beans at breakfeast and sandwiches with cucumber ;) ;) ;) (just joking)
PS: Philippe i can help you with the rule systhem you're looking for..i ll write you in case a PM
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Did you try The Men That would be kings?
I have some Touareg and french meharistes from Black Hat miniatures. Very nice. So these spahis from Gringo are also very tempting!
You must know the novels from Joseph Peyré: l'Escadron blanc, sous l'Etendard vert and Le chef à l'étoile d'argent. Is there the equivalent in Italy? Because we used to be neighbours too in the sahara, with a few Senoussi in between! Of course I have the Hugo Pratt comics.
I did'nt try TMTWBK but i read interesting things about it..my problem are opponent's absence..that is i have always to look for to find rare exceptions among "ineducated" average Italian wargamers (or better say among Italians in general) somebody willing to play that period and with a minimum historical culture different from "ancient romans" and "WW2 Panthers"..believe me is an almost impossible mission...so i only play with TSTAF possibly with an Italo/French/Pied Noir good friend of mine here in Rome who love and know French Colonial History and another visiting US friend, a couple of time a year, that knows the period and the rules-sythem.
Of corse i read Escadron Blanc, Sous l'Etendard Vert ( i want to purchase also Le chef à l'étoile d'argent cause i read that is a based on a true character..a sergeant/brigadier of Méharistes during the Touareg revolt in WW1)...plus a lot of others semi-official histories scanned on line..plus i purchased, before the web advent, quite a few reprints from Lavauzelle and even various big volumes of "Histoire des Armées Francaise d'Outremer" published in 1931 for the Exposition Coloniale..i was really mad in purchasing such antiquarian rare volumes, even trough ordering them in USA, containing plenty of battle maps..they cost me a leg and a arm..but anyway..we live only once...
we also had something similar to that sort of literature in Italy...above all dating from the end of the conquest of Lybia 1930-31..published during Fascist Régime..the rivalry with France even as concern Sahara appeared on those books..as concern Hugo Pratt, who i know is well appreciated in France, i really cannot stand his histories and his lèche cu stance, even during the Seventies he could'ndt refrain to pay homage to the "politically correct"..it is quite difficult, for me , to understand why every Italian character in his histories is represented like a stupid and a coward while the ones from every other possible nationalities are not..but i have my thoughts..on the other hand i like his study of uniforms and landscapes...less his drawing trait which is typical of Italian Comics School of that period....if we speak about BD i strongly prefer..in fact i'm true fan of Tintin and , in a lesser way, also of Alix , Graton's BD, Funcken..in fact i love "ligne claire"'s BDs..ok sorry i realize that maybe i'm going out of topic...By the way in a past post in this same tread , Gringo (Ged) has shown us and offered a very nice Spirou BD/Comics 's cover by Funcken showing the siege of Tuyen Quang with Légionaires and Marsouins that, after a few months, he promptly realised in 3 D !..in my office i used it as a screen saver lol
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Italwars
...I have a "comic book" on Tonkin ,,available freely
which captures the period nicely..will put up cover later
these can be quite inspirationl :D
regards
Ged
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No you are not out of spot at all! Everything is connected!
I understand your point about Pratt, having felt the same impression that he was very much trying to please an american public. And as you mention comic taste, we could talk about that for hours. I was a Penningen student for six months in the late seventies before accepting my lack of talent for comics making... Besides Pratt I may also say that I am a fan of Diabolik ;D... and of course of the ligne claire.
You would not be interested to sell the colonial skirmish rules by any chance? Probably not I suppose. I have produce myself some kind of personnal rules on a similar basis but with a larger scope going from Ancient to WW1, just as in the book "Skirmish wargaming". The first version goes back to the late seventies and playtest games at my club of the time: Les grandes compagnies de l'est parisien. Jean-Jacques Petit made his set about the Vendée war skirmishes out of this experience. I still worked on some sassanian lists this very afternoon! Finally I go back to them after each infidelity with newer sets!
I now play solitaire, and find myself very much in a close similitude to your situation. I get bored of competition players that you can see so proud of their bellies and T-shirt in Vae Victis pictures. Sainte-Hélène Napoleons I call them.
We used to have the nice company of an italian player, in my circle of 1990s players (not to mention our host Marcello Kramer, a most flashy character who has ancestors in maybe more than five nations, is Italian for the law, and speaks ladino, arabic, hebrew, greek, french of course, english and italian fluently). But the one I mention is Ivo Sferlazzo, a real mad sort of gamer who could write the most detailed rules about almost any period from an Ancient campaign to the glorious days of Regia Marina (guess who was always elite!). These were the days of enormous laughs about crazy points of detail he insisted on putting in effect for our games.
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And I was graced with meeting Fred and Lilian Funcken at their Bruxelles home with a friend editor. Fabulous moments of remembering anecdotes about Hergé, Jacobs (with whom they worked) Martin and his "young blond friends"...
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And I was graced with meeting Fred and Lilian Funcken at their Bruxelles home with a friend editor. Fabulous moments of remembering anecdotes about Hergé, Jacobs (with whom they worked) Martin and his "young blond friends"...
That's a fascinating experience! Jacque Martin when i was a child it was very complicated, even if i was fascinated by the excellency of his drawings, to understand his stories...some real thrillers..now everything is clear...even if not historically correct (but who knows???) i tried to paint and convert my plastic 1:72 ancients as the characters of his albums
about rule systhems ecc...i've just sent you a PM
bonne soirée
Pier
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looking at expanding the present range
will revert once decided upon and underway! :D
regards
Ged
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looking forward to seeing LAF Guys/Girls at my Tonkin 1885 display game at Salute on the 6th April 2019.!!
cheers
Ged
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looking forward to seeing LAF Guys/Girls at my Tonkin 1885 display game at Salute on the 6th April 2019.!!
cheers
Ged
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Take photos, Ged! Lot of them! For those of us that can't make it to Salute this year! :'(
At least we can enjoy it vicariously.
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New releases now available...…..
French marine/land artilleryand crew
French fusilier marine artillery and crew
French Mule drawn caisson
French General
Black flag artillery and crew
black flag general
Imperial Chinese Tonkin period Tiger men
Black flag Ncos
Ged
You'll pardon my being a french teacher... marine is feminine so you say infanterie de marine, or fulilier marin. Fusilier de marine should be right but is never employed. You can also say marsouin for a fantassin de marine, who is the equivalent of the royal marine.
I'm very much interested by the Tiger men in Tonkin: have you any proof of their presence?
Philippe
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Ged
You have now several asian ranges, including your wonderful new Tet Offensive line ! There is also a post on LAF about martial arts miniatures. Now what about having some actual martial artists in your ranges?
They are serious lines, so no fancy Shaolin stuff. Was there any martial artists involved in the fighting on both settings: well possibly for the first and certainly for the second. The southern chinese arts were introduced during late nineteenth century in Indochina, mostly in Tonkin. Vietnamese pretend that modern national arts such as Vôvinam, Vô Vietnam, Viet vô dao and the such are very ancient but there is no proof of that. They were later inspired by actual chinese martial arts introduced in the large han community in Tonkin. The chinese arts were mostly from two breeds, the tiger and the crane traditions, with "schools" from Hongkong (the Hong Jia) or from Fujian (Bai He quan). Lesser important forms like dragon or praying mantis may have also influenced training.
The Manchu, apart from their own wrestling and archery arts, were in the highest military grades trained in Hsing Hi (a martial internal form of boxing). But the Black Flags must have come mostly from southern populations and therefore may have known some form of the crane or tiger fighting ways.
You might find a place for a demonstrating Hong Jia tiger and crane master with maybe a weapon or in a fighting stance, or for a more gracious White Crane specialist. I can help you for the exact positions, as it needs precision. Vignettes would also be a possibility.
As for the Têt, the communists with northern training had no access to the southern arts like viet vo dao, but the North had its own martial art form, vovinam.
The American special forces, and the Koreans, were trained in korean arts: taegwondo for the chock troops, hapgido (precisely, Korean marine commandos and some green berets studied a more complete form named Daegu Hapgiyugwonsul, very very nasty) for infiltration and special undercover operations.
Once again I have information on these arts.
Cheers
Philippe
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I did'nt try TMTWBK but i read interesting things about it..my problem are opponent's absence..
TMWWBK and Colonial adventures can both be played in solitaire ;)
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Philippe
some great ideas there...will revert as soon as im able
I Salute mode at present mon ami! :D
regards
Ged
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Nice looking game at Salute. Sadly didn't have a chance to play.
(https://myalbum.com/photo/Uf03jSCJQV1E/540.jpg)
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Cracking display yesterday Ged. Lots to feast the eyes on.
Lovely!
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Great looking setup.Look forward to more pics.
Mark
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Wow, that does look most impressive. I hope we will see more pics of that table (and troops) anyone else who attended. Living in the states I can only hope to enjoy the eye candy.
Also I got a question for any Tonkin campaign fans who might be able to help me.
I'm going to be painting the French artillery piece from this range and am not sure what colors to use? Gun carriages were painted I'm assuming but no idea what color. And the gun itself was bronze or was it painted black?
Appreciate any advice you can give me here, thanks!
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Some basic snaps:
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More....
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and more....
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The landing.....
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Looking fantastic!
So beautiful terrain and minis! Great!
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Improvised fort
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the assault
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A wider view
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The attack
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Artillery and cavalry
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Fort and citadel
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More of the Temple/citadel
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Defensive works
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Last one - wide view of table.
Amazing scenery I think by TM Terrain.
Shows the extraordinary range of figures Ged has produced in a very short time.
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Seeing this table has made my day.
A wonderful table Ged.
Thanks Curassier for posting the photos.
What a treat.
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What a great Beautiful set up. Ged and TM Terrain have created something special.
Mark
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Just fantastic Ged! :-* :-* :-* :-* Thanks Curassier for the pics!
Lon
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SPEECHLESS... :o :o :o :o :o :o
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Just fantastic Ged! :-* :-* :-* :-* Thanks Curassier for the pics!
Lon
+1 !!! :-*
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I stopped by several times during the day to check this out. Very eye catching and fun looking.
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What an incredible table!!!! Beautiful figs and terrain!!! Very evocative and highly inspirational.
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thank you chaps one and all...the guys and Girls that ran
the game for me Paul.Chris Lee,pete,Doc Nick ,Nick,Steve,Sasha
Helen and tracy were amazing and I had the good fortune
to win Gold for the best display Game.never saw that one coming
what a day!! :o :-* o_o :-* 8) :o :D
best regards
Ged and Tina
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Congratulations for your gold medal, Ged! It was well deserved.
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Fantastic presentation! Many congratulations!
Where can we find some more pics? ;D
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Antonio and Dinthedin
thanks chaps...working on gathering pictures
if any Lafer has some kindly post!
many thanks
Ged
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ps I have a bunch
I need to upload 8)
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Loved the pics, well done Ged on winning the Gold
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thank you Geoff obliged! ;) ;)
cheers
Ged
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Hope to post more in game photos later! :D
cheers
Ged
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Would love to see them.
Mark
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Marco55 I will indeed locate a few...you have seen this one
im sure but more will follow ;)
regards
Ged
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No I haven't seen it.Dave at TM does magnificent work.
Mark
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Indeed Mark he did a stunning Job...
another picture of the port .. :o
regards
Ged
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I don't know how he does it.He has such an eye for detail.
Mark
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I always love David's work, he definitely knocks it out of the park :-*
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Mark and Lord Raglan my sentiments exactly
when arriving at Salute prior to Saturday
I was expecting superb scenery as David
unveiled the various box contents...to be
honest i was blown away .. :o :-* o_o :D
reagrds
Ged
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another picture from the game..Black Flag Temple....
cheers
Ged
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Ged: I am waiting for my gaming invite ;)
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Hi Ged,
Congrats on what looks like is a delicious setting. Beautiful and gorgeous is what comes to mind.
Well done to all concern.
Best wishes,
Helen
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Lord Raglan see what I can do matey...…where are you based?
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the Game is due another outing or two ! 8) :D
cheers
Ged
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Helen
most kind of you...……… ;)
thrilled with the actual models
really pleased you like the setup! :D
best regards
Ged
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Helen
most kind of you...……… ;)
thrilled with the actual models
really pleased you like the setup! :D
best regards
Ged
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Ged, You are most welcome.
Kind regards,
Helen
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Lord Raglan see what I can do matey...…where are you based?
Just over the Welsh border in Abergavenny, or Narnia as you English folk like to refer to it
Gareth (we have met, I am the ex-FFL guy)
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Gareth
yep I remember at Warfare
hope alls well with you? ;),,,next game
with Tonkin you are cordially invited!
regards
Ged
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Just some of Ged`s French Marine infantry from my collection
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Look really good.
Mark
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Brilliant job! A great addition to your collection!
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superb Geoff :o
cheers
Ged
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busy restocking Black Flags et all!! :D...apres Salute orders
cheers
Ged
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Working on the final draft for my Tonkin 1885 rules...……… :D
cheers
Ged
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Cool!
I am painting your range's figs currently but have no idea what rules I'm going to use. I am mounting them on circular stands as singles though so that will influence what I decide for rules when I get that far.
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May I suggest:Fist Full Of Lead, or Rebels & Patriots, or The Men Who Would Be Kings.
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A good set and easily adaptable is one called Fists of Righteous Harmony, aimed at the Boxer rebellion it has many interesting mechanics
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Tonkin rules I will be releasing are based for the period in Tonkin
covered by my figures ...the onus on one to one being strong
but of course larger battalion sized units and upwards catered for :D
cheers
Ged
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Ged,
When do you think some Senegalese will be released?
Mark
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Mark
there will be more additions as soon as im able!!
cheers
Ged
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We plan on using The Sword And The Flame rules for the land actions and Gunboat & Dhow! for the naval portions. G&D! is a Naval supplement designed to be used with TSATF.
http://www.sergeants3.com/index.html
http://laststanddan.blogspot.com/?m=1
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Thanks for all the suggestions. The only one I definitely won't be trying is Sword and the Flame. I've played that a few times at conventions and never enjoyed it. To each their own though.
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Tonkin rules progressing well...………….. :D
cheers
Ged
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note...there will be more additions for Tonkin ..but next up will be the Rules
as and when I get a moment!!to have them printed, :D
regards
Ged
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Keep up the good work.
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thank you Juergen as ever!! ;)
regards
Ged
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Still need some Senegalese Ged.
Mark
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indeed Marco...not forgotten ;)
cheers
Ged
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Along with Chinese regulars
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all noted chaps 8)
cheers
Ged
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Just spotted this on FB. http://www.lulu.com/shop/andrew-mitchell/the-tigers-of-tonkin/hardcover/product-24162682.html?fbclid=IwAR3g5TjApoWxHR1gTTUlH0MhSsAiAiu-KvrxoxWoc-zMCdDuhtvCmadVFZ8
Mark
New revamped version. https://www.lulu.com/en/us/shop/andrew-mitchell/the-history-of-the-french-foreign-legion-in-indochina-1883-1946/hardcover/product-124ezgkk.html?page=1&pageSize=4
Mark
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Marco
fascinating looking book 8)
wish it was all about Tonkin 1885
still worth getting!
good spot
regards
Ged
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Thanks Ged.
Mark
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They have many books about the Legion. http://www.lulu.com/shop/search.ep?keyWords=French%20Foreign%20Legion
Mark
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cheers Marco will have a good look :Dregards
Ged
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………...some shots of the really enjoyable Tonkin Game
due to get a few more outings!.Salute 2019 8)
cheers
Ged
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A stunning game, the entire range allows one to springboard into other Asian campaigns
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indeed Geoff will be posting other shots when I get a moment
as you say made for Asian expansion!!
cheers
Ged
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Where'd you get the Chinese houses from? I am looking for some for a game
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Where'd you get the Chinese houses from? I am looking for some for a game
I think that the models used in the game were built specifically for it. However, Oshiro Models has a range of Chinese buildings: https://oshiromodels.wixsite.com/oshiromodelswebshop/chinese
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Purple Lion Creations will build some
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=117183.0
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I think that the models used in the game were built specifically for it. However, Oshiro Models has a range of Chinese buildings: https://oshiromodels.wixsite.com/oshiromodelswebshop/chinese
Good call. I have their Japanese buildings and they're excellent.
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Just spotted this on FB. http://www.lulu.com/shop/andrew-mitchell/the-tigers-of-tonkin/hardcover/product-24162682.html?fbclid=IwAR3g5TjApoWxHR1gTTUlH0MhSsAiAiu-KvrxoxWoc-zMCdDuhtvCmadVFZ8
Mark
Received my book .Very well put together and didn't take very long to send it to me considering that they only print the the book as you order it.My one complaint is that the pages aren't numbered except for a couple which I thought as strange but overall I'm satisfied.
Mark.
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I ordered that book too and really enjoyed it. Much of it is not about the 1880s Tonkin but WW2 however still very interesting. The Tonkin part has some nice detail on various battles though.
And yeah, I thought it weird that the pages were not numbered either. Don't think I've ever seen a book like that before o_o
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Thankfully I have book markers. :D
Mark
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Mark
just wondering what you paid for the book
its gbp40 to gbp60.00 on e-bay and ABE.. 8)
Cheers
Ged
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I paid a little over $46 for it.
Mark
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thanks Mark!!
;)
cheers
Ged
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$46.93 to be exact. :D
Mark
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Hi Ged
Any progress on a “Wargamers Guide to...” for Tonkin? The lack of any comprehensive English language information on the campaign, actions and uniforms etc is the one thing holding me back.
I’m sure we’ll all have our preferences for rules for the period, but this would really help the range fly.
The Perry’s have published similar (but solely historical rather than gaming focused) for their Carlist, Cape Wars and Sudan ranges. Combine the detail of “Go Strong into the Desert” with 10-12 scenarios for Tonkin and I’m sure you’d be into a winner.
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I second the need for a comprehensive book!
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the book is underway chaps...original artwork commissioned...rules nearly done...tempus fugit im afraid with some major projects but Tonkin is high on my list... :D ;) 8) :o :-* ::)
cheers
Ged
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Do have a projected release date?
Mark
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And some more Tonkin figures please Ged !
JM
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Yes please, let's see Chinese regulars and Vietnamese regulars
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on a list chaps...………………(to do of course)
need to filter and get some time then En Avant!! :o :-* o_o 8) :D ;)
cheers
Ged
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Some Chinese Regulars please
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Be they Chinese or Vietnamese, at least some with turbans. A lot of the contemporary photos show men wearing turbans.
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Chinese with turbans
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Were they Moslem?
Mark
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The regulars were from all parts, there were Braves fighting the French
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great pics Geoff :D
cheers
Ged
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Just need to see the Chinese regulars now!
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major re-stock underway chaps bear with me :-* 8) o_o
cheers
Ged
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Just need to see some new Chinese regulars!
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thanks Geoff :D
regards
Ged
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Note....there will be further additions to this range
as it is proving very popular ..just a matter of time
really! ;)
regards
Ged
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Soon please, Chinese regulars
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Need some Senegalese please. :D
Mark
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Nothing coming down the pike Ged?
Mark
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there will be Mark :D..but not immediate!
regards
Ged
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I hear ya. lol
Mark
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What's coming for this range in 2020 Ged?
Mark
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not sure yet Mark
will post on here once I decide..
got good few options!! :D
regards
Ged
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Don't forget the Senegalese! And officers in campaign uniforms.More FFL. And Dahomey! lol lol lol
Mark
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Rifle armed Chinese regulars and Vietnamese regulars
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Hopefully you can do some reinforcements for this campaign.
It is a little frustrating, however popular the modern Vietnam era may be, that the Tonkin range has come to a lengthy halt.
It all began so well.
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I don't think anything new has come out since March.
Mark
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I know Ged will be revisiting Tonkin, I think all of us who are fans need to have some patience!
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I hope you do some French and Chinese personalities when you get going again.
Mark
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be a while yet chaps :D
not forgotten though..as period is very popular!!
regards
Ged
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Just a note chaps...
range is still under consideration
as im stocktaking at present due
a lot of continued interest. :D
regards
Ged
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What happened,you were so high on this range?Did the modern range take your interest away?
Mark
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He still plans to add to it, I continually urge GED for Chinese and Vietnamese regulars
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It is a bit frustrating that Gringos has so many incomplete ranges (especially as there are so many I’d love to start collecting) particularly when they’re for such specific periods it’s difficult to complete from other manufacturers without compromising on quality.
I’m one of the worst when it comes to being too easily distracted by new shiny things but a bit of self-discipline is sometimes needed, especially as a manufacturer.
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i can fully understand Gringo....Firstly Gringo 40 is a very innovative approach to wargame minis in that scale ..they are in fact not only wargame pieces but they are also very nice as component of diorama or vignette..the majority of subjects until now produced can be seen from the uncommon detail and choice of subject, pose even personality among same subject, as some sort of stand alone wargame figure range ...already perfect to complete your existing armies...i own a big Neapolitan Army of 1860 from other ranges but i could'nt resist to buy some very few pieces from Gringo and, despite their big size, they are very iconic and completed brillantly my already existing Mirliton army...the same could be said, probably, for other ranges...Tonkin and Mexico among my favourites....consider also that it is, as i suppose, a small manufacture and a work of love...otherwise the man behind Gringo, would have choosed to produce, instead of Risorgimento, Tonkin and Mexico, some other tons of WW2 Germans, Ancient Romans or other subjects with much appeal to the masses but less for demanding and sophisticated guys like we are in this forum section ;)....so maybe we have to understand better, and i did from personal past experience as a producer of wargame minis (ITALWARS), the stance of Gringo...in oder to invest in new subjects if you have to sell, before that, very very well and big quantities of the already produced casting's subjects..simplest microeconomics approach....for what i perceive Gringo is already doing, risking and offering a lot to us wargamers
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I understand that it isn't cheap to produce figures. I've had a few sculpted and that alone isn't cheap so I can imagine what a whole range going through all the processes must cost.But understanding all that I thought Ged was very happy with the Tonkin range and that it was doing well with it.When he started the modern range I thought he was going to do both and to just stop completely on it came as a complete surprise.
Mark
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Italwars makes some good points but I’m much less likely to support a project from its outset unless I’m reasonably confident I’ll be able to get the core troop types (with officers etc) over 2-3 years, while I’m still enthusiastic about it.
That’s even more important if it’s a niche subject which no other manufacturer makes , BUT this also means that every gamer genuinely interested in the period will support it properly, just than just buying odd ‘nice’ pieces to add to an existing collection. Tonkin certainly fits into that category and Maximilian probably so.
Best example I can give of a new range launched properly is Iron Duke’s Indian Mutiny Range - great sculpts, well researched, multiple poses for all the core troops types with appropriate unit and higher command figures, lots of relevant historical information on the website and other social media and, most important of all, detailed info on planned future releases to a schedule that has been adhered to. With 24-36 figures in each infantry unit, I hesitate to calculate how much I’ve spent on that collection in the last few years.
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Italwars makes some good points but I’m much less likely to support a project from its outset unless I’m reasonably confident I’ll be able to get the core troop types (with officers etc) over 2-3 years, while I’m still enthusiastic about it.
That’s even more important if it’s a niche subject which no other manufacturer makes , BUT this also means that every gamer genuinely interested in the period will support it properly, just than just buying odd ‘nice’ pieces to add to an existing collection. Tonkin certainly fits into that category and Maximilian probably so.
Best example I can give of a new range launched properly is Iron Duke’s Indian Mutiny Range - great sculpts, well researched, multiple poses for all the core troops types with appropriate unit and higher command figures, lots of relevant historical information on the website and other social media and, most important of all, detailed info on planned future releases to a schedule that has been adhered to. With 24-36 figures in each infantry unit, I hesitate to calculate how much I’ve spent on that collection in the last few years.
Good post. Ged was suppose to release a book on Tonkin also.
Mark
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Having spoken to Ged, I know he will be adding to the Tonkin Range, especially with Chinese/Vietnamese regulars, also expanding the Legionaries.
It is a range he consistently sells
I have currently got my Black Flag Army painted, my French is almost there, and I am painting some of the Black Flags as Chinese Boxers.
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thanks for all the comments chap.....one has to consider
the multiple aspects of producing figures..for example my
Tonkin Game at Salute the other year as an exercise in passion
required major imput .and as a one man band im fortunate in being
able to pick and choose whatever I want to do wargame wise...but I will
add to Tonkin when im able... :D :D :D :D :D as for the book its one of four!
I have "stuff" in the wings ….all will be revealed!
regards
Ged
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I hope so . :D
Mark
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WHERE"S MY SENEGALESE??? lol lol lol lol lol o_o :D :D
Mark
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Mark
all in good time old chap...…………….. 8) :D
cheers
Ged
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I'm 64. Can't wait much longer. lol lol
Mark
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Hello,
Just ordered some Tonkin miniatures, waiting for more releases for this range.
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I'm afraid you got a long wait. :-[ lol
Mark
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................looking at doing a poll
for any New additions when im able (key phrase!! :D)
i have ideas and a list but would welcome
any and all suggestions for single figures
troops types etc as the range continues to
sell well....well its early Nam after all and
the period is ultra hot for me.... ;) 8) :-*
cheers
Ged
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I'm glad your doing well on your modern nam but us old timers like old nam lol.You know me I want the Senegalese but could use more Turcos,Zouaves,FFL,couple of personality figures,Black Flags.There's really room for a lot more.
Mark
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I second that
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More Vietnamese Royal Guards and Chinese types plus some vignettes and some civilians please, seated/standing and rich and poor. maybe some market scenes.
JM
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Civilians
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Not sure these guys' role in the conflict but would give more variety. I think you have quite enough French for the main units already. Though some cavalry could be useful in addition of course to the existing sphais. have you got an officer and trumpeter for them ? This is my only frustration with the range - one needs all the elements for a unit to come at the same time.
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You can use most of the Manchu from the opium wars range
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Good suggestion - forgot about them totally.
Any ideas how they were organised ?
JM
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If you have Ian Heath's book on Armies of Asia the China edition has all the details you need
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thanks for all the input chaps, im not finished with
Tonkin by any means.....i have plenty of ideas and
of course all the splendid suggestions from JM and
Geoff....
regards
Ged
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ps JM a trumpter is alreay done old bean!! 8)
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just a note to say Tonkin range now fully re-stocked,, :D
cheers
Ged
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Anything new?
Mark
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Hi Marco...........see Colonial thread..should be
of interest to you ;) (Dahomey Madagascar!) :o 8) :-* o_o
regards
Ged
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Not sure these guys' role in the conflict but would give more variety. I think you have quite enough French for the main units already. Though some cavalry could be useful in addition of course to the existing sphais. have you got an officer and trumpeter for them ? This is my only frustration with the range - one needs all the elements for a unit to come at the same time.
Thanks for the pict Cuirassier...but the cavalry in Tonkin is not, in my opinion, a must.due to environment, climate and above all tse tse flies or similar..some very few Chasseurs D'Afrique, made in a single occasion, a charge vs Pavillons Noirs and a kind of almost unknown mounted native unit or Tirailleur / Garde Cercle à cheval was created..even equipped with a lance i suppose for parade purposes..butdid'nt read any account of actions....maybe you could need, if you really want to have you cavalry amnong swamps, jungles and rice-fieds, a few casting of Chasseurs d'Afrique..In Tonkin they sported a native black kéo dress and usual French pith helmet...not very iconic but easy to convert for example from a Perry ACW rider provided with pith helmet..but if i was you i would buy 3 or 4 true Chasseurs d'Afrique from Gringo Mexican range in their true beautiful uniform and be happy..so you can use also your Armée d'Afrique cavalry for Maroc ecc...
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What we need are regular Chinese and Vietnamese, although Steve Barber has a few Chinese in their Boxer wars range will work and are at same size
We do need some French Foreign Legion with chest pouches
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thanks Durando..
duly noted! :D
cheers
Ged
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Just a note to say some of the troop types for Dahomey
and Madagascar will be interchangeable,giving the Tonkin
range further additions as well. will advise once sorted :D
cheers
Ged
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28mm Gringo40s Algerian Spahi part of the Armee de Afrique..in our Tonkin 1885 range,,superbly painted by Nick Buxey! . figures available from www.gringo40s.com 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Great looking and painted figures
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Thanks Durando! ;)
cheers
Ged
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Received my book .Very well put together and didn't take very long to send it to me considering that they only print the the book as you order it.My one complaint is that the pages aren't numbered except for a couple which I thought as strange but overall I'm satisfied.
Mark.
New revised version https://www.lulu.com/en/us/shop/andrew-mitchell/the-history-of-the-french-foreign-legion-in-indochina-1883-1946/hardcover/product-124ezgkk.html?page=1&pageSize=4
Mark
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interesting looking book Marco! :D
regards
Ged
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Yeah I have the original edition but I'll pick this up.
Mark
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will add to my stack as well.............. :D
cheers
Ged
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just a note to say some New Tonkin releases soon :D
cheers
Ged
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Brand New Releases French Colonial Marines with blanket rolls
suitable for Tonkin,Dahomey, and Madagascar campaigns 8)
cheers
Ged
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New photo of one of our New additions to the French Colonial Armye
28mm Gringo40s French Bugler with rolled greatcoat Dahomey Campaign 1892..New release from Gringo40s superb Artwork Andy Singleton . www.gringo40s.com :D :)..........suitable for Tonkin as well 8)
cheers
Ged
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As an ex-member of the FFL, I always love to see new miniatures hitting the market Ged 👍
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good to hear Lord Raglan!....thanks for the
support..............en avant!! ;)
regards
Ged
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Vive la Légion Étrangère!!
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en ;) avant!!!!!
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New Artwork :D
28mm Gringo40s French Legionnaire Tonkin campign in black locally made unifrom .top paintjob Andy Singleton. part of our Huge Tonkin range,,suitable for Dahomey and Madagascar campaigns, :D ;) 8) :o
regards Ged
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Am a latecomer to this thread but wanted to point out a very useful book that others appear to have overlooked (apologies if it's been mentioned). Sir James George Scott, a famous expert on SE Asia, covered the conflict for the London Evening Standard and wrote a readable account in a book, France and Tongking, which you can find on Amazon. It's on Kindle too.
https://www.amazon.com/FRANCE-TONGKING-NARRATIVE-CAMPAIGN-OCCUPATION-ebook/dp/B08H1D6329/ref=sr_1_1?crid=26EOL3DPINVSE&keywords=james+george+scott+and+tonkin&qid=1647621645&s=books&sprefix=james+george+scott+and+tonkin%2Cstripbooks%2C60&sr=1-1
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You can find it on archive.com as well:
https://archive.org/details/francetongkingna00scot/page/n9/mode/2up
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….though bear in mind the archive version doesn’t have pictures which the other versions have.
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War and Peace in Hanoi and Tonkin is also very good. The English translation is published by Silkworm Books, while the original French is available online (and easily decipherable thanks to the wonders of the Google Translate app - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjz40Gcs0ps).
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Hello Ged,
Will 2024 see the release of rules for Tonkin? As the end of the year is near, to every one Merry Christmas, Happy New Year and some Gringo’s stuff under the Christmas tree?
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Hard to believe that it's been 6 years since this range started. Started off great and then died.
Mark
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But still enough references to start!
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The problem is that if you have one sculptor who wants to satify the market he has to do several ranges. I remenber at Crisis when Ged had fewer miniatures and a few ranges i didn’t want to buy because it would take longe before having enough references to play. But now i bought from the Tonkin range and they are lovely! I think we gamers want to have acces to a complete range immediatly but that takes time! Thats my opinion. Even the Perry’s when they start a new range it takes a bit of time , they are with two and also work with plastic wich give you a big starting point. Big companies like Victrix work with 3D design, go’s faster. But Ged who sculpts every figures thakes time.!
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Yes I agree with what you say but Ged's modern Vietnam range took off so he focused on his most popular range.
Mark
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Marco, the wargaming world is hard lol lol always waiting for those miniatures coming out and some ranges are more liked but still starting a range like Tonkin or other rare periods is nice for some.
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Yes it is. That's why I'm having some sculpted for myself.
Mark
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Nice!
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28mm Black flags using a mixture of Gringo40s ching dynasty and our Black flag castings top work by RAFA www.gringo40s.com
Regards
Ged
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I was wondering what would be the best colour for the french water canteens?
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Rommel
probably the buff/Brown Rommel
used the most often :D 8) :D
regards
Ged
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28mm Tonkin Naval Action 1885
all boats and figures are from Gringo40s
extensive Tonkin range........
regards
Ged
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It will be the brown then Ged :D :D ;)
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indeed Rommel...best colour! ;)
Ged
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Ged, is it the Gras rifle that the French have?The blanket roll also in brown?
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Hi Rommel
yes to both my friend! ;)
regards
Ged
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28mm Algerian Spahi in French service 1885 Tonkin ,,top painting from Trafalger painting service..figures available from www.gringo40s.com :o :-* :o :-* :D 8)
regards
Ged
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French Fusilier Marines Tonkin 1885 from Gringo40s extensive Tonkin 1885 range www.gringo40s.com
regards
Ged
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Hello Ged,
Any progress/news on ruleset for Tonkin.
Regards
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Received my boat today, nice kit and worth its price, big chunk of resin!
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Hello,
As it is hard to find detailed pictures of this period, does anyone know where and how the chain of the anchor was fixed on the Revolver/Farcy boat?
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Hello,
The bayonet scabbard is it in black leather with metal tip or completely metal and the grip wood or brass? Any help welcome
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Received today some nice lecture.
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They look nice. Shame I can't speak or read French.
Mark
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Shame I can't speak or read French.
Then how do you know it IS French ? ??? lol lol lol
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Those reference works look amazing! How many color plates are in each book? Is it worth the price?
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So, not really color plates, only pencil drawings from that period, photo’s from then from officers, Dr.Hocqaurd, info on Chinese, French, Black flags organization, uniforrms with pictures from collections and firstly lecture, but interesting if interested in the period. Only nr. 1 and 3 can be ordered, due to shipping problems they don’t send to everywhere, so have to contact them. Because I bought the 2 numbers I received nr.2 in pdf, not anymore available in issue.
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where and how the chain of the anchor was fixed on the Revolver/Farcy boat?
I thought that obvioulsy the chain would simply go through the hole at the front.
But it seems that (perhaps to prevent the anchor from dangling around?) it was then lifted on the side.
(http://netmarine.net/bat/batral/fgarnier/ancien03.jpg)
(https://redcdn.net/hpimg4/pics/389860Vigilante1923.jpg)
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Hello Patrice,
It was mostly inside de boat the fixation of the chain, but I found a picture so that I have an idea.
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It was mostly inside de boat the fixation of the chain
Yes, but there would be some sort of round winch.
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Hello,
Possible for the winch, but no pictures to be found!
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Possible for the winch, but no pictures to be found!
Yes I've been fighting internet for this too! There are so many answers that what we want is buried deep underneath. :(
(and I've tried in English and in French)
There must be a winch or something for the anchor chain to be rolled on.