The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread

[Vladimir Raukov]

I find it amazing how many replies this thread has had lately over us knowing nothing.

[nic-e]

There has been a food of info onto BoLS , and golem painting studio posted the staff memo on their facebook page.
There's also a rumor of the next white dwarf coming with a sigmarite miniature, which means i will probably buy white dwarf for the first time in about 3 years.

The press release notes that the game has only 4 pages of basic rules, can be played with a handful of models (their words, not mine!) but can be expanded to include old armies.All old armies are still going to be updated (all books) and supported by gw, but AoS is going to be the main focus of their fantasy sales from now on.

Honestly, If the rules look interesting , i might play some test games, and if they go well then who knows, i could be tempted to drop some money on the starter kit.

Those are some BIG ifs tho.

[Tactalvanic]

All old armies are still going to be updated (all books) and supported by gw, but AoS is going to be the main focus of their fantasy sales from now on.

This is good, but it smells a lot like everything older hammer is headed very slowly at first, down the specialist game tube - hey you LoTR games, get out of the way! the hammer is coming down.

The press release notes that the game has only 4 pages of basic rules, can be played with a handful of models (their words, not mine!).

This is also good, as with the leaked content lists, there are not all that many models in the box to start with.

Well its nearly the 4th July, and hey, it might be  a really good game!

If the next White Dwarf actually has a free mini on the front (assume the weekly version), are they putting the price up?

[nic-e]

This is good, but it smells a lot like everything older hammer is headed very slowly at first, down the specialist game tube - hey you LoTR games, get out of the way! the hammer is coming down.

This is also good, as with the leaked content lists, there are not all that many models in the box to start with.

Well its nearly the 4th July, and hey, it might be  a really good game!

If the next White Dwarf actually has a free mini on the front (assume the weekly version), are they putting the price up?

They never used to put the price up when they had mini's in the magazine, although the last one i remember was an assault on black reach terminator/nob, so they may have scrapped that policy.considering white dwarf is now 1/5th the size it was back then and almost double the price, i doubt even the price settlers at gw would be such skinflints.

[Modhail]

They recently hired top-notch sculptors (some french in there) : I don't think the sculptors are the problem here.

Having top notch sculptors won't help you if your design is cack.....

[Vermis]

Having top notch sculptors won't help you if your design is cack.....

That. I don't think the execution of the sculpting, even on these AoS minis, is too bad. It's just that some of the designs of the sculpts increasingly look designed by committee, to 'get down with the kidz' and what they're buying from PP, Wyrd, etc.

[beefcake]

Yes. Agreed.

I wonder if at the moment they are saying (or will be saying when it becomes official) that they are supporting both ranges. Then they will at a later date decide which is selling better and scrap the other line. Sounds like something GW would do.

[Vermis]

Don't really know what they'll do 'til, as people say, they do it. But from all accounts Warhammer was this close to being sent to the knackers yard, and one of the reasons was the huge buy-in for 8th ed armies. Warhammer did need a smaller-scale entry game, but if faced with the invitation to swell their armies to 8th ed size, I'm not sure how many players will go for it, rather than say 'nah, I'm good'. Especially with the switch to round bases, which I've heard some players say they'll switch their existing minis to. I don't think they needed to scrap their old, well-liked background to do it either. (Even if it had started to go a bit 'Poochie') I don't even think they needed to scrap their old background 'cos bad, nasty, wicked people like Chapterhouse might 'steal' landsknechts, elves and broostmen off them.

I'd heard the old ranges would still be available and given one-off rules to make them compatible with the new game, but otherwise 'unsupported' - i.e. not given the 'buy this new thing to stay current!' treatment. So maybe old players (the ones whose numbers had dropped uncomfortably low for GW) will still dip into the old range for their armies or new warbands, but I have a feeling new players might stick with the newer range for the new background. (For one thing, it seems like an awful lot of GW fans really like the 'buy this new thing to stay current!' treatment.)
With the lack of that particular form of support, it's starting to sound like a Specialist Games situation. And we know what happened there.

I dunno. There are advantages to wiping the slate clean and starting a new, smaller game with these big, shiny models (Sometimes it seems people go for other games and rules just 'cos of the big, shiny models); but to me it seems like there are a lot of missteps too, that could potentially nobble this game before it's even released. It feels like watching The Apprentice where these supposed high-fliers come up with daft, overwrought decisions to basic business problems, and you're wincing and groaning 'don't do that, you numpty!' at the screen. Then it blows up in their faces.
But maybe that's my problem - an armchair Alan Sugar. I don't know what'll happen, but I'm still sceptical.

[Vladimir Raukov]

There has been a food of info onto BoLS , and golem painting studio posted the staff memo on their facebook page.

You don't say? Seems like everyone's been running around like headless chooks to me, but that could just be my desire to not have a decent chunk of my high school days ruined.

They never used to put the price up when they had mini's in the magazine, although the last one i remember was an assault on black reach terminator/nob, so they may have scrapped that policy.considering white dwarf is now 1/5th the size it was back then and almost double the price, i doubt even the price settlers at gw would be such skinflints.

Double? It's about half where I live, but I agree that it is much, much smaller. Four turn batreps don't really do it for me.

I'd heard the old ranges would still be available and given one-off rules to make them compatible with the new game, but otherwise 'unsupported' - i.e. not given the 'buy this new thing to stay current!' treatment.

That I like. There wasn't anything worse for me than thinking that I had everything I could possibly want for my lizardmen army, then a new update with shiny things came along. If that's the way it goes, I might just be okay with it.

[Vermis]

You don't say? Seems like everyone's been running around like headless chooks to me

That would not be an unfair evaluation.

Double? It's about half where I live

Aye, it's half the price, but four times as frequent. 

There wasn't anything worse for me than thinking that I had everything I could possibly want for my lizardmen army, then a new update with shiny things came along. If that's the way it goes, I might just be okay with it.

I used to be mad into tyranids, but I couldn't easily put a name to half of all the new niddy thingies GW have released since I dropped out in 4th. It just feels too exhausting to get back into now...

About the free WD mini: wouldn't mind getting that for a looksee, but the challenge is getting into a GW store in a timely manner before they've all been swooped on. What week was that WD supposed to be out?

[OSHIROmodels]

Don't get me started on Yellow Submarine - when I was learning Japanese, we translated a lot of song lyrics for practice and then had to sing them.  Guess what my worst effort was?

Kiro no sensuikan?

[Nord]

Latest from BOLS (sorry gents, but sometimes these things have to be done, be brave):-

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/06/age-of-sigmar-world-background-more-rules.html

Sounds like Mr Mersey has been moonlighting in Nottingham!

[Momotaro]

Kiro no sensuikan?

Yup.  First line of the chorus is:

Watashitachi wa kiroi sensuikan ni sunde imasu

I realise you'd leave out watashitachi wa in everyday Japanese, but I wanted to emphasise "We all"

Now YOU try fitting it to the tune

[Momotaro]

I used to be mad into tyranids, but I couldn't easily put a name to half of all the new niddy thingies GW have released since I dropped out in 4th.

"Veined throbbing monster" would cover several of them.  "Uterine drop-pod" will do the rest 

[Momotaro]

You don't say? Seems like everyone's been running around like headless chooks to me, but that could just be my desire to not have a decent chunk of my high school days ruined.

Watching Warseer and Dakka over the past few days, I swear some folks are going to explode before the weekend...

As one of the a-holes who has been moaning for years that GW needs to make a game where you can buy a box or two of models, assemble them and start playing, I'm pleasantly astonished by this turn of events.

The meat (and success) of the game is going to lie in the unit stat cards, sorry Warscrolls, and how you build an army from them, so I guess I'll be downloading them all come Thursday.