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Title: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Wilgut Spleens on April 16, 2024, 02:23:06 PM
With the release of Ruckus imminent in Wargames Illustrated 437 I thought I should write a blog concerning it's origins and development

https://wilgut.blogspot.com/2024/04/heres-ruckus.html 
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Atheling on April 16, 2024, 02:36:09 PM
Absolutely brilliant Mike  8)

I'm really pleased for you and for the set of rules as i know how bloomin' hard you and others have worked on them!

Plus they're Late Med. based so that's always a bonus! :)
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Wilgut Spleens on April 16, 2024, 04:58:22 PM
Thanks Darrol, it's been quite a journey!
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Armstrong47 on April 16, 2024, 09:53:35 PM
Really looking forward to picking up the rules ln print,next month.
Are there any plans for a Ruckus "Deluxe" edition in the future?
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Wilgut Spleens on April 17, 2024, 06:40:18 AM
yes indeed! I am not sure when but Wi have confirmed it....and Deluxe already exists! Ruckus has evolved in the other direction from Billhooks in that Billhooks was expanded to become deluxe wheres Ruckus had to be edited down to its current shape and size. Ruckus deluxe wont be called that and it won't have the same format as Billhooks.

Thee is also a "back burner " plan for English Civil Ruckus...

Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Captain Blood on April 17, 2024, 11:11:35 AM
Great stuff Mike.
I’ve read it and like it. Am going to try to have a go.
Are WI going to sell printed card decks, as per Billhooks?
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: RedRowan on April 17, 2024, 01:19:32 PM
Mike mentions in the blog post about there being cards and counters so I’m guessing they’ll be handled by WI like the Billhooks ones.

Steve
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Wilgut Spleens on April 17, 2024, 02:32:59 PM
Great stuff Mike.
I’ve read it and like it. Am going to try to have a go.
Are WI going to sell printed card decks, as per Billhooks?
Thats excellent news! I thought you would...yes, cards, counters and figures-not that you will nedd any of those!
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Sleepy Snoozy Skeletons on April 17, 2024, 03:35:42 PM
Can't wait for it and now knowing that there's already something planned for adding Reisläufer and Landsknechte makes me all  8)

Also, if your daughter really puts the  Librarian into her retinue then that's some really beardy gaming and i highly approve  :D
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: OSHIROmodels on April 17, 2024, 04:52:47 PM
I'm looking forward to playing this at Richards  :)
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Wilgut Spleens on April 18, 2024, 05:58:21 AM
Thank you all for your kind remarks, I hope you like my game
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: anevilgiraffe on April 18, 2024, 12:56:45 PM
may be an odd question, will this be a book free with mag or the rules are just in the mag itself? I assume the latter, but thought I'd check.
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: RedRowan on April 18, 2024, 01:25:20 PM
I think it’s a free booklet with the magazine. I’m sure WI did a very quick preview video on YouTube just before Salute.

Steve
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Captain Blood on April 18, 2024, 05:15:55 PM
It’s a free booklet with the magazine.
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Sleepy Snoozy Skeletons on April 18, 2024, 06:11:19 PM
Usually I get the pdf version (storage space is a bit premium here, with my miniatures stuff and my girl's knitting and crochet stuff...  ;)) but I think I'll hit up the FLGS and pick up a physical copy of this issue. Rules kinda read different on paper than on a screen.
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Wilgut Spleens on April 18, 2024, 10:06:38 PM
It is indeed a free 32 page booklet with magazine 437
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: anevilgiraffe on April 19, 2024, 10:11:19 AM
I think it’s a free booklet with the magazine. I’m sure WI did a very quick preview video on YouTube just before Salute.

Steve

It’s a free booklet with the magazine.

thanks, it will be nicer. when is it out? I'll need to make a trip to pick one up...
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: RedRowan on April 19, 2024, 01:25:54 PM
I think Northstar said they are expecting it in next week.

Steve
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Wilgut Spleens on April 19, 2024, 05:29:18 PM
Next Friday I think, although it may be a bit earlier, the physical version certainly smells better!
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: HappyChappy439 on April 19, 2024, 06:37:04 PM
Oh wow amazing news! Congrats on the hard work!

I've put in the preorder for the magazine just now, definitely looking forward to seeing the rules!  :D
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Rickf on April 19, 2024, 07:07:06 PM
Really looking forward to this. I've been tempted by the WoR for ages, but I've never been able to find the time to paint a new period. 12 figures a side! now I've no excuse.
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Wilgut Spleens on April 19, 2024, 07:14:43 PM
Really looking forward to this. I've been tempted by the WoR for ages, but I've never been able to find the time to paint a new period. 12 figures a side! now I've no excuse.

That is my evil plan mwa hahahahahahahaahaahaaaahhaaaa! (etc)
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Rickf on April 19, 2024, 09:26:01 PM
That is my evil plan mwa hahahahahahahaahaahaaaahhaaaa! (etc)
lol lol
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Harry Faversham on April 20, 2024, 07:04:48 AM
Our post office closed down last week, I'd had two wargame magazines from them for over six years. I've now subscribed to have WI delivered quarterly...
hope they don't bugger up next month's magazine!
 :(
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Johnny Boy on April 21, 2024, 09:27:03 AM
Our post office closed down last week, I'd had two wargame magazines from them for over six years. I've now subscribed to have WI delivered quarterly...
hope they don't bugger up next month's magazine!
 :(
Same happened to me Harry so I subscribe to WI and WSS and even with a really crap Postie we had for a while they seemed to come through in good order so hopefully you won't get a problem.
I'm already heavily invested in the Barons War but if it's only a dozen figures per side then I may be persuaded, perhaps, possibly, maybe. . . .  .
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Harry Faversham on April 22, 2024, 02:41:47 PM
WI magazine's just fell through the letterbox. The rulebook's a tad special, can't wait to get started.
In my 'umble opinion His Nibs, should now be Baron Spleens!

:-*
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: anevilgiraffe on April 22, 2024, 02:47:20 PM
does that mean it's in the wild then?
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Wilgut Spleens on April 22, 2024, 09:24:30 PM
WI magazine's just fell through the letterbox. The rulebook's a tad special, can't wait to get started.
In my 'umble opinion His Nibs, should now be Baron Spleens!

:-*
Thank you! I hope you enjoy it here is a link to the Ruckus FB group  https://www.facebook.com/groups/227891339822507
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Wilgut Spleens on April 22, 2024, 09:25:52 PM
does that mean it's in the wild then?
Looks like it, of course, being the author it's my job to be the last one to find out
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Muddlingthrough on April 23, 2024, 12:43:55 AM
I just downloaded the digital rulebook. I must admit, I am not English and know virtually nothing about the War of the Roses, but this looks great!  I've got a couple friends who are passionate about the history of the period so they're on-board. Already planning some pub brawls with billhooks.
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Wilgut Spleens on April 23, 2024, 07:20:55 AM
Brilliant! You really dont need to know anything about WotR to enjoy Ruckus, you dont even need to use historical figures if you dont have them. Ruckus is based in WotR because it kind of follow Billhooks and because it was easiest as I had the figures, you can make it what you like!
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Muddlingthrough on April 23, 2024, 12:44:21 PM
Brilliant! You really dont need to know anything about WotR to enjoy Ruckus, you dont even need to use historical figures if you dont have them. Ruckus is based in WotR because it kind of follow Billhooks and because it was easiest as I had the figures, you can make it what you like!

Well the good news is that, of my two friends I've just recruited, one has his PhD and is employed as a military historian. Like, for the actual military. The other has his Masters in military history and has a shelf full of books on the War of the Roses, which is one of his favourite periods. So I"m sure they'll be able to give me a few pointers.

And 12 miniatures a side is a very low barrier to entry. My military historian friend has never wargamed before and is onboard.

I'm just getting back into the hobby after a long absence and am gonna have to get to work making some suitable terrain: hedgerows and muck and whatnot.
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Wilgut Spleens on April 23, 2024, 01:13:36 PM
Excellent! I hope you enjoy it! If you do Facebook come and join us at https://www.facebook.com/groups/227891339822507
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Muddlingthrough on April 23, 2024, 01:58:40 PM
Excellent! I hope you enjoy it! If you do Facebook come and join us at https://www.facebook.com/groups/227891339822507

Already joined!
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Dice Roller on April 23, 2024, 02:17:50 PM
I'll definitely have to pick up a copy of this.
How specific is it to the WotR?
I'm more of an early 100YW gamer, so can it be used for the chainmail period?
I'm guessing it probably can. And fantasy too?
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Sleepy Snoozy Skeletons on April 23, 2024, 02:31:26 PM

And 12 miniatures a side is a very low barrier to entry. My military historian friend has never wargamed before and is onboard.


Oh yeah, both your mates and you could share a single Perry War of the Roses infantry box and still have 4 minis spare  ;)
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Muddlingthrough on April 23, 2024, 03:08:45 PM
Oh yeah, both your mates and you could share a single Perry War of the Roses infantry box and still have 4 minis spare  ;)

I was looking at this box. It'll make 36 troops, some combination of archers and billmen, and 4 armoured command. The rules call for 9 retainers and 3 heros per retinue. I'm thinking the WR1 infantry box along with the WR50 foot knights box would be the most economical. Enough spare troops to recruit a couple more players eventually too.
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Severian on April 23, 2024, 05:45:48 PM
The postman brought my copy yesterday. Excellent stuff (that will in no way distract me from finishing painting my Burgundian mob for Billhooks...). Hearty congratulations on what looks like a fun and cleverly thought-out set of rules.

Just downloaded the cards, QRS, skills list &c from the WI website. There's a wealth of good things to explore.

I think, though, that the Divers Alarums card fronts have been posted twice, once under its own name, and a second time instead of the Cunning Plan card fronts. Also I can't find the list of Traits anywhere. Am I missing something obvious? Thought it was worth mentioning this.
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Wilgut Spleens on April 23, 2024, 06:34:42 PM
I think, though, that the Divers Alarums card fronts have been posted twice, once under its own name, and a second time instead of the Cunning Plan card fronts. Also I can't find the list of Traits anywhere. Am I missing something obvious? Thought it was worth mentioning this.

Thank you , excellent spot, I will let them know and it will probably be changed tomorrow!
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Sleepy Snoozy Skeletons on April 23, 2024, 07:28:35 PM
I was looking at this box. It'll make 36 troops, some combination of archers and billmen, and 4 armoured command. The rules call for 9 retainers and 3 heros per retinue. I'm thinking the WR1 infantry box along with the WR50 foot knights box would be the most economical. Enough spare troops to recruit a couple more players eventually too.

The two kits also kitbash really well together (I think the Perry bros have pics of this on their store page, too). I've built some minis from both kits and they are a joy to play around with. Big thumbs up from me for both  :)
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Wilgut Spleens on April 23, 2024, 09:11:49 PM
I'll definitely have to pick up a copy of this.
How specific is it to the WotR?
I'm more of an early 100YW gamer, so can it be used for the chainmail period?
I'm guessing it probably can. And fantasy too?
It can be used quite easily to play any medieval, period I think , with a little adjustment. I have written a HYW supplement complete with scenarios, special rules, new Retainer profiles, new mercenaries etc.We are playing a campaign with it now and it seems to work well, it will, no doubt be released at some time in the future.The future of Ruckus really does depend on how well it is recieved
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Wilgut Spleens on April 23, 2024, 09:13:36 PM
It can be used quite easily to play any medieval period I think , with a little adjustment. I have written a HYW supplement complete with scenarios, special rules, new Retainer profiles, new mercenaries etc.We atre playing a campain with it now and it seesm to work well, it will, no doubt be released at some time in the future.The future of Ruckus really does depend on how well it is recieved
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Harry Faversham on April 25, 2024, 04:47:44 PM
Just had chance for an in depth perusal, it's great! I reckon with a smidge of imagination you could go from the Age of Heroes, the Sons of Odin, right up to the Crusades, no problem.
 :-*
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Wilgut Spleens on April 25, 2024, 07:26:19 PM
Thank you! I think you are right, there are plans and quite a lot has been written...
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Wilgut Spleens on May 01, 2024, 09:25:11 AM
..its in the shops!
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Dean on May 01, 2024, 12:42:03 PM
Congrats mate, savour it, and ignore the inevitable haters  lol
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Dice Roller on May 02, 2024, 12:28:28 PM
Picked up a copy today.
Looks eminently adaptable, reckon you could even do a fantasy version.
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Wilgut Spleens on May 02, 2024, 07:02:13 PM
thank you, that is one of the plans with low level hedge magic. It has been used to do a LotR scenario, using peasanst as goblins and BWS played a zombie invasion game using it
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Thoronde on May 04, 2024, 01:37:08 PM
If only I could find a copy in the Netherlands
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Muddlingthrough on May 04, 2024, 03:31:40 PM
If only I could find a copy in the Netherlands

Also basically impossible to find physically here in Canada. I'm not even sure I can get a physical subscription here without it being prohibitively expensive, so I went ahead and got a digital subscription, which gets you a PDF copy of the game. I prefer physical copies of rules, but this one is short and easy to print. As a bonus, I get access to every single back-issue of Wargames Illustrated.
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Poiter50 on May 05, 2024, 02:30:16 AM
I have 3 copies of the mag & rules, winging their way to West Oz, hopefully here this week. Also 3D printing buildings more approprite to the period even if their origin is Fantasy (Dark Realms Forge Briarwood). We may even have a 4th player keen in our little group at the club.
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Sleepy Snoozy Skeletons on May 05, 2024, 08:16:14 PM
Maybe it's just me being blind as a mole, but I can't find the traits. Is it still a work in progress and not yet on the site?
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Elk101 on May 06, 2024, 09:54:04 AM
I've just been looking for the same thing. There's a skills download, but I couldn't see the traits.
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Wilgut Spleens on May 06, 2024, 06:08:50 PM
The problem with condensing a fully written game of over 60 pages into 32 pages is that some things have to be left out. I do think the Traits were accidentally left out tho, one too many cuts in the editing room.
I have been reassured that they will appear on the website “soon”
In truth, 60 pages of close written text actually translates into about 140 pages as rule book after you add pictures, explanations, and examples.
Another thing that is missing is the number of Skills each Hero may have, so here it is
Character Generation in the One-Off game
In a One-Off game, Heroes may take one skill per level of Prowess-these are randomly allocated before the game. Captains, may choose to take skills from any of the groups, one of which must be a Leadership skill and may only choose to take one archery skill.
A Captain of Archers may choose to take only Shooting skills. They must take at least one Archery skill.
A Captain of Mercenaries may choose to take only Shooting skills but does not have to take any.
Skills are chosen randomly using a deck of cards or at the players mutual agreement may be allocated to characters to build a specific character.
Individual Skills for characters should be drawn and the profile sheet for each filled out before the game. To randomly chooses skills use a deck of cards! Take one card for each point of prowess ie 3 for a Captain, 2 for a Squire.
Skills in Ruckus are unique to each character. Players pick the cards for their Captain first then lay these cards to one side before picking the cards for each of the Squires being sure to lay the “picked “cards to one side to ensure that skills are not replicated in the Retinue.
Players may reject a total of three cards. Draw all the cards for Captain and the two squires then reject the unwanted ones and replace them by drawing new cards as above
Players can of course design character profiles to fit what is known of historical characters, fictional heroes, or home-grown Heroes!
I hope this helps…

Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Elk101 on May 06, 2024, 06:16:17 PM
Thanks for the reply. Does the peasants Three's a Crowd trait provide 3 reduced ability figures instead of 1 retainer figure?
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Wilgut Spleens on May 06, 2024, 09:41:55 PM
short answer...no!
All will be revealed... soon
Title: Re: Here's the Ruckus
Post by: Sleepy Snoozy Skeletons on May 07, 2024, 05:54:47 PM
short answer...no!
All will be revealed... soon

Looking forward to it :)