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Miniatures Adventure => Age of the Big Battalions => Topic started by: bulldogger2000 on August 15, 2016, 12:55:25 AM
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I am converting the Warlords Historicon 2016, free giveaway figure to a mounted version of Flashman. I have looked at a good many artist representations of Flashman in a Lancers uniform, but I am unable to identify WHICH Lancer regiment would be appropriate for Flashman. The only regimental connection I can make from the Flashman series is to the 11th Hussars. Any help would be appreciated. Here is the figure in question.
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Keen to see what you do with that. I have had similar thoughts myself as I would like to use the Eureka NOT Flashman figure for a leader in Sharp Practice 2.
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If he is at "The Charge" then it has to be the 17th Lancers - they there the only lancer regiment in the Crimea at the time.
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As I recall he was with the 11th Hussars, but then left that regiment prior to Balaklava. HOWEVER, I don't know of a single reference to the 17th Lancers. Ultimately, I am just going to use him as a Brigadier for just about ANY period (after all....Harry was EVERYWHERE). :o)
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The 11th Hussars were part of the Light Brigade at Balaclava and took part in the charge along with the 4th and 13th Light Dragoons, 17th Lancers, and the 8th Hussars.
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Hi Steve.....I am aware of that. I am more specifically looking for any referenced accounting of Flashman being in a Lancer Regiment, based upon the Flashman books.
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There isn't one. Flashy does learn to use the lance in India very early in his career, but he is never actually a lancer.
Rich
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Flashman at the Charge p 58 " ...The glittering points where the 17th sat waiting - and Willy burst out in excitement "Our Regiment Harry! What noble fellows they are!"
So 17th Lancers it is
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Cover art for Flashman at the Charge shows him in the uniform of the 17th Lancers
(https://www.artistsuk.co.uk/acatalog/Flashman_On_Charge_Frank_Frazetta.jpg)
(http://d.gr-assets.com/books/1320654946l/142460.jpg)
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"At my tactful suggestion to Raglan, we were both gazetted in the 17th, who were lancers..."
Flashman at the Charge - when he's chosen by Prince Albert to be young Willy's mentor.
Chosen by Flashy because it would annoy Cardigan, because he had used the lance in India and, above all, they "wore the flashiest rigout in the whole light cavalry"
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Here are a couple of figure suggestions
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That Historicon giveaway is a great figure.
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17th Lancers it is! I will show the finished project when completed. Thank you all.
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From? :)
Here are a couple of figure suggestions
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The fig suggestions are from Steve Barber Models Greek War of Independence range
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Flashy was a staff wallah at Balaklava, from what I remember, and had got himself into what he thought would be a safe post away from the action, as usual though, his plans went awry as he was sent with messages at the worst moments to the three most dangerous spots in the battle - The Thin Red Line, The Charge of The Heavy Brigade and Charge of The Light Brigade - where he was captured. I would expect he would be wearing the uniform of his own regiment: 11th Hussars.
www.gallopingmajorwargames.com
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Flashman left the 11th Hussars after a dispute with Cardigan and went to India . During the Crimea he was in the 17th Lancers and made a Colonel while chaperoning the young German Prince .
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First photo is of the adjustments I made to the figure. The original standing pose was rather straight legged and not a realistic posture for someone mounted on a horse. I tilted his upper body slightly forward, gave more of an angle to his upper leg/thigh area, readjusted the lower leg to a more vertical position (necessary after adjusting the upper leg), I bent his toes up to more accurately a foot position in a stirrup. I also gave more of a light cavalry curve to the saber.
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Second photo is the "green stuff" epoxy stirrups and leathers in place. I also beefed up his mustache a bit as well.
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I am using a Wargames Foundry Crimean War Horse for "Flashy". To get a better fit, I filed down the seat vertically, narrowing it and making sure the rider has a "good seat" without having to file on the rider. I also drilled a hole into the saddle area of the mount so that the pin placed in the bottom of the figure can be inserted and more securely hold the two pieces together.
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filed saddle
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Official Report on the Heroic Actions Taken by Col. H. Flashman (17th Lancers) at the Battle of PulWallah in the tribal areas north of the Sind.
On the 23rd of July, in the year 1858, Her Majesty’s army was drawn up in line of battle to confront, and at long last destroy, the rebel forces in the Sind. Colonel Harry Flashman, commanding the 17th Regiment of Lancers was seen to approach the command staff, apparently to request permission to lead a daring charge into the enemy forces. When he found that time was wasting, he abruptly turned his horse on his heels and at a full out gallop, was seen to begin waving his saber frantically as if he were a member of some drug induced Hindi sect. Racing past his regiment, and believing that his brave troopers were too slow in responding to his exhortations, Flashman was heard to repeatedly yell, “Away, Damn You! Away”.
As one, the Lancers surged forward, following their brave leader into the midst of the rebel army. Not only did the Lancers make a monumental charge, but the General’s hound Bartley, found inspiration in Flashman’s sport and followed gleefully behind Col. Flashman throughout the entire action.
My Dear Epsweth,
You have no doubt, by now, heard of the action of July 23rd. I can assure you that I remain safe in spite of the misadventures leading up to the fray.
As the two armies approached, I found my stomach twisting in knots and my bowels loosening to the danger point. Knowing that my impending doom was in making in mere moments, in one last hope, I approached the General to request to be relieved of duty based upon my illness (cowardice IS a form of illness I believe). Before I had the opportunity to speak with the old warthog, his nasty cur (the dog has repeatedly tried to bite me over the last few months) charged at my horse causing the animal to flee in panic. In spite of all of my efforts to strike the mangy beast with my sword, and calling repeatedly for it to leave me along. The dog continued to pursue me into the very jaws of the awaiting rebel army. Not content to simply place me in harms ways….the dog continued to chase after me, back and forth, hither and hon through the ranks of the Sind rebels.
As luck would have it, I must now find room for another medal on my tunic.
Your Devoted Husband,
Harry
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It was a fun day project....
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My photographic skills are certainly lacking...
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Thanks all for the input.
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It was a fun day project....
A great idea, looks just how I imagine 'Flashy'!
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That is pretty cool work!! Well done. I was handing those figures out at H-Con and would never have thought to do a conversion like that. Thanks for sharing.
Regards,
Hitman
8)
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Thank you.
The fig suggestions are from Steve Barber Models Greek War of Independence range
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Great job.
You have done Flashman to the T.
I would love to see him in the different uniforms from the books.
Miniatures would be so cool.
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Really good conversion 8)
Cheers
Keith
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I figured I would experiment a little more with the photography. Thanks for the comments guys.
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again...
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One more...
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Spiffing, old chap. And now the tutorial?
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Spiffing, old chap. And now the tutorial?
It's on the second page of the thread. :o)