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Offline Engel

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Primer disaster
« on: September 30, 2012, 01:47:04 PM »
Spraycan disaster…

I just primed en Russian Havoc helicopter and disaster struck…


 


The model ended all grainy and when the color dried it leaved dried out channels on the surface. I tried to apply another layer to smoothing the surface but that didn´t help.
I think it has to do with the moister level in the air.

Anyone got any idea on how I can fix this?
If I should just try to paint over it and pretend it didn´t happen?
Should I try to dissolve the primer with something without damaging the plastic kit under ?

Offline Cherno

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Re: Primer disaster
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2012, 02:21:59 PM »
I think removing the primer without damaging the plastic might be impossible, although you might give it a try on the underside, try brushing on a bit of solvent and see if it helps. Otherwise you could try and smooth out the worst cracks with some kind of putty.

Offline robh

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Re: Primer disaster
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2012, 02:43:57 PM »
If that is a self etching primer (ie the ones that melt the surface to adhere) you will need a new kit unfortunately.

If it is a normal primer/paint you can strip it with oven cleaner. Stick the model in a sturdy plastic bag, spray liberally with foaming oven cleaner and leave for 24 -48 hours, remove and scrub gently under warm water with a toothbrush.

Offline Henrix

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Re: Primer disaster
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2012, 03:28:10 PM »
Aw, that's bad.

That happened to me a couple of months ago. A whole bunch of 15mm figures.

I tried painting a couple of them, but it didn't work. Hard work and it didn't turn out well.

I had to strip them and start all over. I think that's the only workable way, regretfully.  :(
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Offline Drachenklinge

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Re: Primer disaster
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2012, 04:49:08 PM »
Though I understand the feeling of the desaster (and have such myself with some minis from time to time) it does not look sooo bad after all! After some experiments at the underside - and depending at the outcome - I would leave it at that and use it as some "old worn out" helicopter, often in use in dessert campaigns. It might turn out as an eyecatcher!
Half of the weathering is already done, without buying any pigments at all. Even the channels might be useful for chipped-of color.

And if You do some camouflage-nets over it, most of it won't be seen anyway. So, everythings possible, still!

However, bad hair day with primer is one of the worst things in this hobby!  :'(

But be glad, though, it does not happen with the finish!  o_o

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Offline Alfrik

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Re: Primer disaster
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2012, 05:04:49 PM »
Covert to a post apoc helicopter?  Enhance the damage some to give it the "been around for awhile" look?
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Offline FramFramson

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Re: Primer disaster
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2012, 05:14:34 PM »
I would leave it at that and use it as some "old worn out" helicopter, often in use in dessert campaigns.

Those are my very favourite type of campaign.  lol


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Offline Hammers

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Re: Primer disaster
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2012, 06:32:18 PM »
I agree with the above. It's a 'if like gives you lemons, make lemonade' kind of situation. Damp, cold and hit are something you need to think about when you spray. Annoying statement, but it is true.

Offline HerbyF

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Re: Primer disaster
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2012, 05:08:28 AM »
Fill in or a light sanding to take out the worst cracks. I have had no success removing primer from plastic at all. I have had problems with spray primer drying with a fuzzy or bubbly finish I have had to brush smooth with an old tooth brush.
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Offline Engel

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Re: Primer disaster
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2012, 09:11:06 AM »
Thanks guys for all the responce.
It has given me some idea how to save the model.

 

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