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Miniatures Adventure => Back of Beyond => Topic started by: Johnno on 23 April 2017, 03:15:10 PM
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Hey all (and cuprum ;) )
I'm looking for a dark grey or black uniform for red cavalry. Thinking of naming them "The Wolves" (aka Volki) so want an uniform choice that reflects that.
My "Reds" Osprey doesn't have one shown.
I found one but its for the Whites.
Thanks,
Johnno
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Hi Johnno. I must disappoint you. I've never heard of such a detachment of the Red Army. The Reds often met "eagles" - for example, the "Regiment of Red Eagles" ... There were "iron" and "steel" regiments and divisions. On the "wolves" I have not heard. But in the white army, ataman Shkuro, had its own "wolf hundred". The gray uniform after 1922 was prescribed for the entire Red Army. But in fact it was used on a par with the uniform, sewn from a khaki fabric of different shades. The black uniform was prescribed to the prison guard, the transport department of the Cheka (Responsible for protection of railway and water transport), black leather uniforms had crews of armored vehicles.
It can theoretically be assumed that during the Civil War some of the red cavalry units could have a completely black leather uniform. But I do not know such facts.
Uniform of the sample 1922 (existed before 1924):
(http://forum.valka.cz/attachments/12217/Un1922.jpg)
Shirt and helmet - summer; Shirt and helmet - winter
(http://forum.valka.cz/attachments/12217/Kab1922.jpg)
Winter uniforms
(http://forum.valka.cz/attachments/12217/_epLe1922.jpg)
Summer cotton helmet
(http://forum.valka.cz/attachments/12217/_epZ1922.jpg)
Winter cloth helmet
The colored details of the uniform (in the drawings black) had a different color, depending on the kind of troops. In cavalry, the color was blue with a black edging.
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Hmmm. :'( :? :'(
Thanks cuprum. You are a wealth of knowledge as always! :D
Shkuro's Wolves were the unit I had read about. My issue is several of the figures have Budnikova hats. Maybe I'll sleep on it another night
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Do you mean this one?
http://pygmy-wars.50megs.com/barendspages/mountainhosts/kubanwolves/kubanwolves.html
(http://pygmy-wars.50megs.com/barendspages/mountainhosts/kubanwolves/wolfreenact.jpg)
looking at an actual photo here
https://books.google.com.au/books?id=s47PBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA105&lpg=PA105&dq=Shkuro%27s+Wolves&source=bl&ots=IYJOlOlRqP&sig=JNqpAeAMhfQ-fxqx6sCji_vUm8c&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiWjsfLi8HTAhVGo5QKHbpWC6YQ6AEIaDAQ#v=onepage&q=Shkuro's%20Wolves&f=false
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Thats the one.
Unfortunately for my needs, they are White Russians.
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There were Red Cossacks too though. I you have figures with the Kuban garb, then painting them black/dark grey and making them Reds is fine.
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What colour were cavalry pants?
I've seen blue with a red stripe...are those suitable for Reds?
I've primed the figures, drybrushed the coats grey and painted the pants blue so far. But can always repaint the pants.
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Pants blue - pants are regulated for the cavalry of the royal army. They could be worn, both red and white. Cossacks wore large red or yellow lomps on their trousers. Narrow red or yellow edges in the side seams of trousers are characteristic of other cavalry.
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Perfect thanks
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Trouser colour and stripe depends on the Cossack Host or regiment.
Blue is Cossack cavalry trouser colour. In the South the Cossacks would have wide red stripes (Don) or Yellow (Astrakhan). That meant most were red, although I have chosen to paint mine as Astrakhan.
Out East there were also stripes in raspberry (pink) for Ural and Semirechensk and light blue (Orenburg) but most were yellow.
Regular cavalry had various colour dress trousers, blue being the most common, with varous pipings in red, yellow, light blue, light green, white and raspberry. Field colour was khaki.
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You forgot to mention the Siberian Cossack Corps. Siberian Cossacks had a scarlet color of shoulder straps and stripes.
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Oooops! Thanks Cuprum.