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Title: Opinions on Osprey's "Fighting Sail" OWG 009
Post by: Froggy the Great on 09 May 2017, 03:39:56 PM
I saw Osprey's "Fighting Sail" game recently and was wondering - anyone played it?  Anyone have opinions?  Anyone have good ship sources?
Title: Re: Opinions on Osprey's "Fighting Sail" OWG 009
Post by: Damas on 09 May 2017, 06:15:22 PM
I personally love it and I want to expand my fleets when time/money/children permit.

I've started with some Langtons for frigate duels but there are 1:1200, 1:600 and 1:300 depending on your preferred scale/budget/battle approach.

The best bit for me are the wind changes and tacking maneuvres that give it that frisson of reality.  :-*
Title: Re: Opinions on Osprey's "Fighting Sail" OWG 009
Post by: has.been on 09 May 2017, 07:10:39 PM
+1 for 'love it'
We use Tumbling Dice Napoleonic range, plus he is a nice guy to deal with.
The rules are easy to pick up & play. You can start small with a few ships & then build up numbers.
Title: Re: Opinions on Osprey's "Fighting Sail" OWG 009
Post by: Sunjester on 10 May 2017, 08:00:39 AM
I've only played 2 or 3 games, but it was really easy to pick up and great fun to play. Probably not the most historically accurate naval (but then I did get talked into playing a game like that once, Hell I was BORED!).  lol
Title: Re: Opinions on Osprey's "Fighting Sail" OWG 009
Post by: Munindk on 10 May 2017, 10:07:45 AM
Could it be used with 28mm scale ships, if one was mad enough?
If yes, what size board would it require?
Title: Re: Opinions on Osprey's "Fighting Sail" OWG 009
Post by: raykey on 10 May 2017, 10:28:08 AM
I've been thinking of using my Sails of Glory ships, I found the SoG rules not to my liking as they have too many tokens etc and you really need multiple player for a good game
Title: Re: Opinions on Osprey's "Fighting Sail" OWG 009
Post by: SteveBurt on 10 May 2017, 10:51:13 AM
It's a quick play set. Not realistic, but fun.  Appeals to people who don't want to get into the details of how square-rigged ships moved and fought (all that stuff about whether you deploy your crew to set sails or man guns, firing on the up roll and so on).
I've used it with both 1:600 scale and the 1:2400 tumbling dice models.
Also easily convertible to a square grid.
The only house rule we used was that the result which has a ship blowing up we converted to 3 damage tokens; that stops an undamaged ship of the line being destroyed by one lucky shot.
Title: Re: Opinions on Osprey's "Fighting Sail" OWG 009
Post by: flatpack on 10 May 2017, 01:14:04 PM
Great fun set of rules.
Played using the Tumbling Dice boats.
Used about 6 ships per side and finished a game within 3 hrs.
Title: Re: Opinions on Osprey's "Fighting Sail" OWG 009
Post by: LCpl McDoom on 11 May 2017, 11:16:01 AM
I like 'Sails of Glory' but 'Fighting Sail' also provides me with a good simple game where I can use a lot more ships for squadrons and fleet actions on the tabletop. It's not a truly accurate set of naval rules with all the necessary details for sailing warfare of that time, but it does provide me an enjoyable quick-play game. I've now ended up using the SoG ship models more times playing FS than the original SoG game itself, so that may tell the tale right there.

And I agree with SteveBurt too, in that some house rules help tone down the more extreme results in combat. You may want to stick to the rules as they are, if you want a more theatric/Hollywood feel  :)

Title: Re: Opinions on Osprey's "Fighting Sail" OWG 009
Post by: Belisarius on 13 May 2017, 10:44:40 PM
I,ve just bought a copy on E bay and intend to use the rules with these
Title: Re: Opinions on Osprey's "Fighting Sail" OWG 009
Post by: racm32 on 15 May 2017, 02:38:24 AM
I recently got it as well but have not gotten a game in yet. I'm also using the punch card collectible Pirates ships as I had amassed a large British and Spanish fleet when the game came out. I was wandering does anyone make the templates for the game?
Title: Re: Opinions on Osprey's "Fighting Sail" OWG 009
Post by: LCpl McDoom on 15 May 2017, 10:43:12 AM
A small, positive and potentially useful review from a few years back: https://suppressing-fire.com/2015/06/09/fighting-sail-fleet-actions-1775-1815/

And the Official PDF for templates and counters - perhaps one of the MDF or Plastic sheet makers could provide a quote?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2UGzFKyUbhOZVhRbGZuRFJLS0k/view
Title: Re: Opinions on Osprey's "Fighting Sail" OWG 009
Post by: Belisarius on 15 May 2017, 06:16:17 PM
Looking good , Dude.
Title: Re: Opinions on Osprey's "Fighting Sail" OWG 009
Post by: SBRPearce on 18 May 2017, 05:29:02 PM
Munindk:

For battles with 28mm ships (and have I mentioned how insane that idea is?), you'd probably use movement sticks about a meter long, and you'd need a play area 12 x 18m or so...  lol

I've participated in convention battles waged between squadrons of Lego pirate ships (the four-master was almost a meter long!) and they were great fun. You determined which guns could bear on a target by getting down onto the floor and spotting the target through the gun-ports. Em, obviously a game from my earlier days, but a blast. And the carpet was even blue with a vague wave pattern!
Title: Re: Opinions on Osprey's "Fighting Sail" OWG 009
Post by: Golgotha on 18 May 2017, 08:00:00 PM
How does it compare to similar offerings such as:

Galleys and Galleons Ganesha games http://www.ganeshagames.net/index.php?cPath=1_25

or

Kiss Me Hardy Too Fat Lardies https://toofatlardies.co.uk/product-category/kiss-me-hardy/
Title: Re: Opinions on Osprey's "Fighting Sail" OWG 009
Post by: has.been on 18 May 2017, 09:26:04 PM
Can't comment on Galleys & Galleons, but simpler/faster & more of a laugh than Kiss me Hardy. Kiss me Hardy is a very good naval game & more accurate than Fighting sails.
Title: Re: Opinions on Osprey's "Fighting Sail" OWG 009
Post by: SteveBurt on 18 May 2017, 09:29:29 PM
It's less detailed than either of those. Kiss Me Hardy is a fair simulation without being over the top (if you want lots of detail, the Post Captain or Signal Close Action are what you want).
Galleys & Galleons is really aimed more at Renaissance than Napoleonic, and has fantasy elements although you don't have to use those. It uses a modified version of the 'song of' activation system, which is OK but which I find leads to a slowish game. Fighting Sail is quick play.
Title: Re: Opinions on Osprey's "Fighting Sail" OWG 009
Post by: Munindk on 19 May 2017, 07:13:33 AM
Munindk:

For battles with 28mm ships (and have I mentioned how insane that idea is?), you'd probably use movement sticks about a meter long, and you'd need a play area 12 x 18m or so...  lol

A tarp on the lawn it is then :p
I'm planning to do a few ships for Blood and Plunder anyways, and as I'm reading Master and Commander, it would be fun to use those ships for "real" naval battles too.

I might be able to use a smaller area though, as the ships I'm planning arent ships of the line. A couple of frigates, a couple of brigs and a sloop or two.