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Miniatures Adventure => Pikes, Muskets and Flouncy Shirts => Topic started by: Raza Decon on May 18, 2017, 04:29:14 AM
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The New Offering from Paymaster Games and their Going Native line. Going Native: From out of the Mists is a model centered campaign that will cover different heroes, warriors, monsters and gods of the New World.
Here is a link to the KS page - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139148164/going-native-from-out-of-the-mists?ref=creator_nav (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139148164/going-native-from-out-of-the-mists?ref=creator_nav)
Here are some models from the campaign -
A Inuit Elder/ War Leader -
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A Hawaiian King -
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Some very nice models there. I am particularly interested in the Pacific Northwest figures (naturally...).
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First update - new model and a new stretch goal -
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139148164/going-native-from-out-of-the-mists/posts/1887961
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Will you still be doing aztec eagle and jaguar infantry?
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Yes I want too. They are on the stretch goal list. After the Goddesses, we will go with a monster/hero stretch goal. Then I think we are going to tackle Jaguar Knights, the Shorn Ones, the Warrior Priests, and Otomi as the stretch goal after that.
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New Update - New Stretch Goal and Backer Goals
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139148164/going-native-from-out-of-the-mists/posts/1891411
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Update # 3 - Aztec Elite Troopers
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139148164/going-native-from-out-of-the-mists/posts/1893446 (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139148164/going-native-from-out-of-the-mists/posts/1893446)
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These look FANTASTIC!
I especially like the Aztecs and Inuits.
Have you seen Savage Core? They have some big, cold weather cavemen. https://us-store.warlordgames.com/collections/savage-core/ I love their look, dressed in furs and all.
I'd love to see some Inuits with pre-European technology. I think they'd be a nice addition to this dressed-in-furs aesthetic.
There was that (insane) Mel Gibson movie about Aztecs, Apocalypto. Scared the *@# out of me.
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Foundry has some nice ones, I think it was Josef Ochmann, if I remember correctly. His look pretty and friendly.
I'd love to see something like the terrifying Aztecs of Apocalypto.
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These look very promising: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139148164/going-native-from-out-of-the-mists/posts/1893446
Great job!
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Update #4 - Sisiutl, The Great Sea Serpent of the Pacific Northwest - Finished
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139148164/going-native-from-out-of-the-mists/posts/1894135 (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139148164/going-native-from-out-of-the-mists/posts/1894135)
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Update #5 - New Pledges
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139148164/going-native-from-out-of-the-mists/posts/1894450 (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139148164/going-native-from-out-of-the-mists/posts/1894450)
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Update #6 - Montezuma has come to the Campaign
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139148164/going-native-from-out-of-the-mists/posts/1895322 (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139148164/going-native-from-out-of-the-mists/posts/1895322)
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Update #6 - Montezuma has come to the Campaign
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139148164/going-native-from-out-of-the-mists/posts/1895322 (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139148164/going-native-from-out-of-the-mists/posts/1895322)
Great art!
He's Montezuma II? Is he his father's revenge...? ;)
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There was that (insane) Mel Gibson movie about Aztecs, Apocalypto. Scared the *@# out of me.
I'd love to see something like the terrifying Aztecs of Apocalypto.
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Erik, Apocalypto was about the MAYANS not the Aztecs. Great film though I agree
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Erik, Apocalypto was about the MAYANS not the Aztecs. Great film though I agree
Zoque, Popoluca, Triqui, Tepehuan, Mayan, Aztec, Toltec, High Tech, Low Tech... whatever. ;)
(Oh yeah, you're right. I *should* know the differences, I live in California. Whoops.)
Still, I'd love to see figures like those guys. They were terrifying. I'm glad to see it happening with this kickstarter.
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Update #7 - Mayans Arrive
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139148164/going-native-from-out-of-the-mists/posts/1896169 (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139148164/going-native-from-out-of-the-mists/posts/1896169)
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Are the Mayans multi-part or one-piece castings? Are weapons and shields attached or separate?
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The Holcan will be a multi part kit. The shields will be seperate bit.
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Now we're talking Mayans... :)
He looks excellent.
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I gotta tell ya, Marc, I find your multi-part figures daunting. I have several packs of your Northwest Coast warriors, but I haven't assembled any yet. They come as legs, torso, two arms and a head, that's five pieces each, before you add a quiver of arrows or possibly convert a weapon hand. The design is great for custom-assembling a few figures, but if you're building an army of 100 or more, it's a lot of drilling, pinning, gluing, puttying, filing and sanding.
As a matter of fact, I've been working (for a couple of months and no end in sight) on assembling 4.5 bags of multi-part Old Glory Plains Indians. These are just two-piece figures, legs + upper body, oh, and a shield and maybe a weapon...but each one is a lot of work. When I finish one, it looks *nearly* as good as if I'd bought a single-piece casting in the first place. They don't all look exactly alike, though, some have their feet closer or farther apart, and one set of legs wears leggings. Sigh.
I'm going to favor single-piece castings from now on. That's just one customer's friendly feedback, take it how you like it.
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I understand, Zippyfusenet. The reason I make multi-part kits is a business one. This allows me to make changes and additions for little cost. Also this will help me to create plastic kits down the line. Now on to your points -
Did you like the Makah Whalers/Harpooners? They are one piece models.
Lets say I make one piece models of basic troopers, what would you want to see? How many poses for each weapon option would you need?
Shields will always be a separate bit, unless I buy a model I did not design.
By the way, what are you working on if you need so many models? An Army? Pictures? ;D
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Hey raza. I always thought a good mix was 1 body. 3 heads on a bulb joint and an arm with weapon in the same kind of joint. It allows for a LOT of flexibility for minimum parts ad can be easily expanded. But I'd love plastic aztecs
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One thing I really like about Anvil Industries is that the connector for the shoulders is triangular. This way arms can only fit in a certain position. This is very helpful if two arms are meant to hold on to one item like a rifle.
Conversely ball and socket joints are excellent if the two arms don't have to hold on to the same item. Lots of flexibility there.
These are just some ideas to make multi-part Minis easy and flexible at the same time. I can't wait to build some of yours. They look fantastic, at least the artwork does.
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Marc, your Makah Whalers are excellent figures: good anatomy, plenty of accurate detail, well posed, and unique subjects. They're more adventurers than warriors, but I paint interesting subjects that aren't purely military, and these are verrry interesting. I take your point about multi-part castings allowing a more 3D figure. I think damianlz and ErikB have both offered useful suggestions to make their design just a bit simpler and easier to assemble.
In it's fullest, my project is proto-historical North America. I'm most interested in the High Mississippians and their neighbors, but no one sculpts Mississippians, so I collect whatever early subjects I can find: Iroquoians, Powhatans, Skraelings, pretty much any Indian warrior figure without metal weapons. I have a couple of hundred Eastern Woodland warriors painted up, mostly from the old Rafm Flint & Feather line, some Foundry 16th Century, and several hundred more in the bare metal. Like most of my projects, this one is open-ended; it will be finished only when I can't do any more.
Your Tlingit are somewhat off my main path, but they're such an interesting, unusual range that I couldn't resist. Your Meso-American figures also interest me, but I have a couple hundred unpainted Aztecs and Tlascallans on the shelf, and I must...not...buy...more...ungh.
My goal is to model large-scale tribal warfare, like the Cow Creek Massacre, or the battles presented in the Gears' "The First North Americans" novels. I'm also ambitious to stage the battle of Mabila, where the Great Sun Tascalusa tried to wipe out De Soto's Spanish. I have the Conquistadors painted up, and I'm working on buildings for Mabila.
I find that most rules for pre-contact North America are skirmish level, and I enjoy playing them, but I'm looking for something at a larger scale. I've tried your Warpaths rules and was interested, I plan to return to them once I've rebuilt my Plains forces (I just sold a load of my Plains Indian figures, who I pitted against the Woodland army, so now I've opened the Old Glory bags). The Tribal rules recently published by some New Zealanders look interesting, but I'll need to add some serious archery rules for North America.
Best regards and success to you.
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Zippyfusenet,
I am going to put more pledges up tomorrow. A couple of army pledges, a dragon pledge, and I am going to put up a pledge just for you - Mississippian Mound Builders. This will allow you to create the greens for one general, one hero, and one multi-part unit. Once the pledge is made it will be a slightly smaller army that I will offer on the army pledges, a general, a few heroes, and a snot load of troops.
I will likely get the mound builder pledge up tonight, but the others are going up tomorrow.
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I'm interested in the Maori Rangatira w/ Spear, but are there Maori warriors in the works? I can always use more troops for Tribal! Also, any chance of a scale shot w/ Eureka and/or Empress?
Thanks!
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You have my attention, Marc. I need both an archer and a warclub-swinger for my rank-and-file Cahokians. Variable heads, shields and warclubs would be nice, but not too many pieces, please. Lenape-Tallega Wars, coming up!
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The dragon and mound builder pledges are up.
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Um, that's a little rich for my blood, Marc, but thanks for the proposal. I'm sure they'll be great sculpts, if someone funds production.
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New Update # 8 - New Pledges and Creations
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139148164/going-native-from-out-of-the-mists/posts/1901227 (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139148164/going-native-from-out-of-the-mists/posts/1901227)
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Update #9 - White Buffalo Woman
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139148164/going-native-from-out-of-the-mists/posts/1903229 (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139148164/going-native-from-out-of-the-mists/posts/1903229)
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I am waffling around about this project... on the one hand I have absolutely no use for the figures but I really like the Northwest Coast sculpts.
This thread reminds me that my son has received a "nick name" from the band he is currently working for: Denyo (bull moose) lol. It's better than his buddy who is "walking eagle" (if you have ever seen an eagle walk you would know that is not a compliment lol).
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Update #10 - Maui arrives with new stretch goals
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139148164/going-native-from-out-of-the-mists/posts/1905468 (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139148164/going-native-from-out-of-the-mists/posts/1905468)
Inuit Angakok Shaman and his Tupilaq, the Ivory Golem
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Update 11 - $13,000 Stretch Goal - As requested, more Pacific Northwest Tribes Models
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139148164/going-native-from-out-of-the-mists/posts/1907593 (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139148164/going-native-from-out-of-the-mists/posts/1907593)
Pacific Northwest Tribes Hero
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Update 12 - Pledge Clean Up and New Requested Pledges
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139148164/going-native-from-out-of-the-mists/posts/1909598 (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139148164/going-native-from-out-of-the-mists/posts/1909598)
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Update 14 - WAR!!! Come with me now.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139148164/going-native-from-out-of-the-mists/posts/1912497 (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139148164/going-native-from-out-of-the-mists/posts/1912497)
New Stretch Goal, new requested lists