Miniatures Adventure => The Second World War => Topic started by: tin shed gamer on June 04, 2017, 11:18:43 AM
Title: Airborne gliders,from Sarissa.
Post by: tin shed gamer on June 04, 2017, 11:18:43 AM
I've just come across these from Sarissa. Has anyone built one as I'm in two minds as to whether scratch build or save time and buy a kit. Do they need much tweaking ?if they do then then I might as well scratch build in card.
Mark.
Title: Re: Airborne gliders,from Sarissa.
Post by: carlos marighela on June 04, 2017, 12:44:37 PM
If you want something that looks reasonably accurate then yeah, they need tweaking but I think the real issues are more than tweaking, it's the dimensions and the medium used. I suppose it depends on how much you can live with the 'cartoon for gaming purposes' look over the realistic nut probably impractical aspects of a scale model. Personally, I think they look a bit meh. Sarissa does some fantastic buildings but their non-terrain items always seem a bit off-key.
Title: Re: Airborne gliders,from Sarissa.
Post by: tin shed gamer on June 04, 2017, 08:20:06 PM
I think your more than right I've been back and had another look. It was the horsa glider that I had a particular interested in. But the more I look the more uncomfortable the wing joint looks. In fact I don't understand the reasoning behind the whole wing construction. As for the dimensions I know there big but a 500mm wing span?I normally scale 28m at 5mm to a foot. The gliders wing spans 88' and its around 19'6" tall. So I don't see how its more than a figure too long on each wing. One glider is going to take up far too much table top. No I'm going to scratch build and use a little scale compression. Cheers for confirming that nagging doubt before I let my love of the subject rule my wallet. Mark.
Title: Re: Airborne gliders,from Sarissa.
Post by: Suetonius Paullinus on June 04, 2017, 08:54:24 PM
I think the reason for it being a little 'off key' might be this:
It's meant to be taken apart (and put together again). It's obviously not an accurate scale model and given it's from Sarissa it's made from wood and card and not plastic or resin. Possibly a pain to build, I haven't stared yet..but I think it looks spiffing. Also for under £20 from eBay..I think I wouldn't scratch build. Would take me too long and I'm no good anyways ;)
Cheers
SP
Title: Re: Airborne gliders,from Sarissa.
Post by: Rich H on June 04, 2017, 09:01:18 PM
Problem with aircraft is they are massive! At 1/56 it's got an 18" wingspan.
Title: Re: Airborne gliders,from Sarissa.
Post by: Silent Invader on June 05, 2017, 12:18:08 AM
I made one in 1/56 (albeit with broken-off wings) quite a few years ago. A plastic waste pipe was pretty spot on for the fuselage diameter, which made the build a heck of a lot easier. I've since sold it but I might have photos somewhere. :)
Title: Re: Airborne gliders,from Sarissa.
Post by: tin shed gamer on June 05, 2017, 12:42:45 AM
Suetonius, I think they've missed an opportunity by no designing the wing assembly to double as a crashed model as well as a take down kit. For me as always its about time,if I end up tweaking the kit then there comes a point when it would be more time efficient to scratch build. I could knock up a reasonable build in about four and half hours. With nothing posher than a cocktail stick or two and a rummage through the recycling.So if its going to push three to four hour kit building and tweaking.I might as well scratch build rather than wait for the postman. As I've not had my hands on a kit I'm intrigued to see your take on this kit,and of course your opinion of it. SI, Dig out the pictures I think they'd make a good comparison.
Mark.
Title: Re: Airborne gliders,from Sarissa.
Post by: Harry Faversham on June 05, 2017, 01:22:33 AM
Problem with doing it right is, you'd need. a very big wargames table...
Title: Re: Airborne gliders,from Sarissa.
Post by: Johnnytodd on June 05, 2017, 03:45:22 AM
My vote is for scratchbuilding in 1/56... (18" wingspan is not that big :D) There are abundant plans on the net which should make your build fairly straightforward.
Title: Re: Airborne gliders,from Sarissa.
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on June 05, 2017, 08:39:22 AM
My vote is for scratchbuilding in 1/56... (18" wingspan is not that big :D) There are abundant plans on the net which should make your build fairly straightforward.
For a given value of straight forward.
Prior to my ongoing disaster that is the Boromite ore cannisters, I have found Sarissa models to be easy even for me to assemble and to produce excellent wargaming terrain.
I would like to see an assembled but unpainted one to see how easy it goes together.
Title: Re: Airborne gliders,from Sarissa.
Post by: Silent Invader on June 05, 2017, 11:13:37 AM
OK, I've found some images.....
..... but not very good ones :'(
BTW, by posting I'm not critiquing the Sarissa product. ;)
Bit of background. Longstanding interest in and research of the GPR and related matters. I have a lot of info that used to be on the net and which one day I'll put back up. No direct/personal connection to the GPR, though a grandfather worked on Horsas during WW2. I made this model back in Feb 2009, which was about 6 months into my '28mm career'. There's a build thread on LAF but only the comments remain, as after I abandoned my plans to wargame the GPR in NWE44-45 and sold everything off, I cleared my images. Why did I abandon? I couldn't paint the smock camo to the standard I aspired. :o With the plastic paras by Warlord I might just get back into it! lol
So there you go, my comprise for a 4x4 table..... a hard landing (and yet the undercarriage survived ;)) :)
Title: Re: Airborne gliders,from Sarissa.
Post by: tin shed gamer on June 06, 2017, 11:36:06 PM
Now I like that alot. It's got the most logical wing joint / damage point. My intention wasn't to critique the glider only to see if anyone has the hands on one yet. Because the more I look the more I think I want one ,but I'll just change the wing joints ,and rebuild the cockpit,then re profile the tail section,and so on. Airborne ,for my own reasons brings out the rivet counter in me. So the list of tweaks is the bugbear. I'm definitely leaning towards a build halfway between yours and the one mentioned.
Mark.
Title: Re: Airborne gliders,from Sarissa.
Post by: Silent Invader on June 06, 2017, 11:59:49 PM