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Title: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Sinewgrab on 24 June 2017, 08:13:22 PM
So, in my group of gamers, someone decided we needed to get North Africa started for our Bolt Action gaming.  Since everyone else is continuing their forces from the Western Front (British, American, German), I, who had been using Partisans (see my WWW2 'Cult" army here: http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=92143.0 if you'd like) and had a couple Italian tanks, fell into the Italians for this as well.  Besides, I kinda like the look of their vehicles.

I don't have any of my infantry ready yet, but I just finished off all of the vehicles I have been collecting in the last few months as I sell off less interesting projects.

This is a mix of Company B, Blitzkrieg, and Warlord models.

First off, a truck with an anti-aircraft gun.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/28/1352_24_06_17_8_56_05_3.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/28/1352_24_06_17_8_56_05_1.jpg)

An M13/40
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/28/1352_24_06_17_8_56_05_0.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/28/1352_24_06_17_8_54_47_4.jpg)

An M11/39
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/28/1352_24_06_17_8_54_47_3.jpg)
 (http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/28/1352_24_06_17_8_54_47_2.jpg)

Another M13/40 - one is Warlord, the other Blitzkrieg.  Very different...
 (http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/28/1352_24_06_17_8_54_47_1.jpg)
 (http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/28/1352_24_06_17_8_54_47_0.jpg)

A Semovente 75/18
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/28/1352_24_06_17_8_54_03_4.jpg)
 (http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/28/1352_24_06_17_8_54_03_3.jpg)

A pair of 47/32s - one of which I am using as a command vehicle.
 (http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/28/1352_24_06_17_8_54_03_2.jpg)
 (http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/28/1352_24_06_17_8_54_03_0.jpg)

A 90/53 - I loved the look on my friend's face when I dropped this down when he though he had me by bringing a Tiger.
 (http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/28/1352_24_06_17_8_52_58_4.jpg)
 (http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/28/1352_24_06_17_8_52_58_3.jpg)

And you have to have transports, right? Can't expect the Bersaglieri to walk, can we?
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/28/1352_24_06_17_8_52_58_2.jpg)

And we now have the cute factor - CV-33s.  These things were so freaking small.  My Prius is bigger...
 (http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/28/1352_24_06_17_8_52_58_1.jpg)

And the group shot, with a Princess Leia for scale, because, well, reasons.  I don't have any of my infantry done yet.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/28/1352_24_06_17_8_52_58_0.jpg)

Avanti Savoia!











Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on 24 June 2017, 09:00:56 PM
Very good.
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Helen on 24 June 2017, 10:32:09 PM
Excellent start to your collection. You need some L6s for the lancer units.
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Marine0846 on 24 June 2017, 10:46:33 PM
Very nice painting.
Love them.
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Sinewgrab on 25 June 2017, 06:26:21 AM
Excellent start to your collection. You need some L6s for the lancer units.

I have one for my Cultists, but were there really many L6-40s in North Africa?  The things I am reading seem to differ heavily on that?
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Helen on 25 June 2017, 06:51:12 AM
I have one for my Cultists, but were there really many L6-40s in North Africa?  The things I am reading seem to differ heavily on that?

approx 20 for El Alamein and perhaps additional for Tunisia.
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Harry Faversham on 25 June 2017, 09:21:36 AM
Love the look of that Eyetie tackle...
they look like the kind of tanks we all drew as kids in skool!

:-*
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Sinewgrab on 25 June 2017, 03:43:38 PM
Very nice painting.
Love them.

Thanks - I'll have to bring them along for one of the games I run.  Maybe fighting hordes of Undead or an invasion of aliens...

approx 20 for El Alamein and perhaps additional for Tunisia.


Huh.  Can you (or anyone paying attention) recommend reading material on it?  It seems to me everyone assumes the conflict didn't really matter until Rommel got there, and that seems very slighting of the Italian Army.

Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Quendil on 25 June 2017, 04:06:52 PM
Very nice, I am just building up some Italians myself
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: ork56 on 26 June 2017, 05:48:09 AM
Nice stuff, I am drawn to a faster grouping of AS41 and Saharianas, which I think look amazing. Interesting on the difference in the tanks-I will have to have a closer look, thanks for pointing that out.
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Helen on 26 June 2017, 06:06:30 AM
Huh.  Can you (or anyone paying attention) recommend reading material on it?  It seems to me everyone assumes the conflict didn't really matter until Rommel got there, and that seems very slighting of the Italian Army.
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i get back to you.
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on 26 June 2017, 09:46:31 AM
Huh.  Can you (or anyone paying attention) recommend reading material on it?  It seems to me everyone assumes the conflict didn't really matter until Rommel got there, and that seems very slighting of the Italian Army.
The only book I have is the Armour In Battle: Wavell's Offensive by Bryan Perrett published by Ian Allan in 1979.
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Ballardian on 26 June 2017, 07:19:02 PM
 There is a reasonable Osprey book 'Italian soldier in North Africa 1941–43 By Piero Crociani, Pier Paolo Battistelli' - which has the advantage of being quite cheap & readily available. There's also Ian Walker's 'Iron Hulls, Iron Hearts: Mussolini's Elite Armoured Divisions in North Africa' covering, unsurprisingly, Italian armour - I'm not so sure about this ones availability though.
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Poiter50 on 26 June 2017, 08:58:22 PM
I have Iron Hearts, a good read, details the poor tactics used initially and the realisation that they needed to be adapted just as the Brits did in their contacts with the DAK. Ex
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Dent on 27 June 2017, 02:59:17 PM
Have a look at:

Mussolini's Afrika Korps: The Italian Army in North Africa, 1940-1943
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: seamoose on 28 June 2017, 02:22:08 AM
What is that transport vehicle? I never knew the italians had any for of armored transport.
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Sinewgrab on 28 June 2017, 05:46:23 AM
It's an Autoblindo AS37 Troop Carrier from Blitzkrieg - they only got a few in Africa, as they mostly went to the Eastern front, as far as I can tell.  I just loved the look of them.
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on 28 June 2017, 09:33:45 AM
It's an Autoblindo AS37 Troop Carrier from Blitzkrieg - they only got a few in Africa, as they mostly went to the Eastern front, as far as I can tell.  I just loved the look of them.
Very modern looking.
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: seamoose on 29 June 2017, 12:24:13 AM
They're so damn nifty looking I may have to acquire a few dozen for myself!
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Sinewgrab on 29 June 2017, 03:58:40 AM
Nice discussion of it, though brief, here: www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/italy/Fiat_SPA_Autoprotetto_S-37.php
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: njetkulturny on 30 June 2017, 04:43:40 PM
For a good account of the italians in North Africa try Greene/Massignani "Rommels North Africa Campaign", which despite its title starts in September 1940 and gives more information about italian background.

Otherwise it depends how historically correct you want to play. A lot of vehicles came to late or were never used together. A good source (in french by all means  ;) ) is the italie 1935 - 43 site with a lot of information on vehicles, etc.

Hope it helps

Cheers njetkulturny
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Sinewgrab on 30 June 2017, 05:25:36 PM
Excellent site - thank you.  It blows me away how much I think I know only to again realize how little I know when I get going on a historical project.
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: archiduque on 01 July 2017, 02:58:10 PM
Great stuff! :)
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: James Morris on 05 July 2017, 06:30:39 PM
Another vote for 'Iron Hulls, Iron Hearts.' An excellent book that takes a hard look at the usual '6 gears for reverse' joke.
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Sinewgrab on 16 July 2017, 09:30:39 PM
Just got Iron Hulls - bloody good read. 

As a question - and I hope I don't offend anyone here - but I am working my way through the Warlord Bersaglieri figures right, and it really feels like I am painting caricatures, instead of models.  The rest of their stuff tends to be realistic, but these just don't feel correct - too large of noses, no chin to speak of, very thin necks, shorter than other figures in the same range, just feels like I am painting animated figures from a propaganda film...

I also have my base troops from Askari Miniatures, and I much prefer these sculpts (in fact, I would never have ordered the Warlord if I had realized Askari had Italian Bersaglieri in the first place) - am I off base here, or does anyone else get that vibe from these?
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa UPDATE 7-21
Post by: Sinewgrab on 22 July 2017, 03:28:52 AM
And the first of my Bersaglieri - these are going at a glacial speed, but summers are harder to paint in for me.  Too much yard work and too many outdoor activities...

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/29/1352_22_07_17_4_25_30_0.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/29/1352_22_07_17_4_25_30_1.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/29/1352_22_07_17_4_25_30_2.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/29/1352_22_07_17_4_25_30_3.jpg)
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Helen on 22 July 2017, 05:01:38 AM
Nice work - Marching onto victory!
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: italwars on 26 July 2017, 02:25:48 PM
but were there really many L6-40s in North Africa?  The things I am reading seem to differ heavily on that?

they were ...but the campaign were they saw more action was at the very end in Tunisia
i suppose that your nice collection has been put together for the sake of representing all the exotic and nice stuff that inspire your iconic view of the conflict...so , in this case, also if not historical you can mix all the vehicles...
in fact the 90mm self propelled gun was employed..or at least tried to go in action..only in sicily and with non more than 2 pieces...and , unfortunatly, the Bersaglieri in Africa never received the rare and interesting armoured troop carrier that you showed us...very saw service in the Balcans in anti partisan duties...then a pair went into service, after 1944,  with RSI fascist troops and the few remaining ones were captured and employed by Police German units...you know the doctrine of Italian Armed Forces was, and still is, do not waste modern and updated materials if you can field old ones...after the armistice the Germans captures enormous quantities of brand news very performing Beretta SMG (practically distributed only to police units and never to first line units), brand new modern trucks and off roads vehicles that had been desperatly need in Africa, entire depots gallons and gallons of precious petrol that had not even accounted for, modern artillery A/A pieces and P40 modern tanks ....Albert Speer report about the material find, in fact cautiosly hidden,  in Italian depots and barracks is, in my opinion, the most important document to understand why Italy lost the War...
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Poiter50 on 26 July 2017, 03:14:26 PM
I can testify to the quality of Post War Beretta production which probably stemmed from that elusive WW2 production. When firearms were still legally and simply obtained in Western Australia for legitimate hunting purposes, my father purchaased a very nice .22 calibre Beretta rifle which was both semi automatic and bolt action by changing the bolt position. It was a sweet, well balanced rifle which eliminated many a pesky bunny and roo on a friend's large expanse of farmland.

they were ...but the campaign were they saw more action was at the very end in Tunisia
i suppose that your nice collection has been put together for the sake of representing all the exotic and nice stuff that inspire your iconic view of the conflict...so , in this case, also if not historical you can mix all the vehicles...
in fact the 90mm self propelled gun was employed..or at least tried to go in action..only in sicily and with non more than 2 pieces...and , unfortunatly, the Bersaglieri in Africa never received the rare and interesting armoured troop carrier that you showed us...very saw service in the Balcans in anti partisan duties...then a pair went into service, after 1944,  with RSI fascist troops and the few remaining ones were captured and employed by Police German units...you know the doctrine of Italian Armed Forces was, and still is, do not waste modern and updated materials if you can field old ones...after the armistice the Germans captures enormous quantities of brand news very performing Beretta SMG (practically distributed only to police units and never to first line units), brand new modern trucks and off roads vehicles that had been desperatly need in Africa, entire depots gallons and gallons of precious petrol that had not even accounted for, modern artillery A/A pieces and P40 modern tanks ....Albert Speer report about the material find, in fact cautiosly hidden,  in Italian depots and barracks is, in my opinion, the most important document to understand why Italy lost the War...
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Sinewgrab on 27 July 2017, 06:04:10 AM
they were ...but the campaign were they saw more action was at the very end in Tunisia
i suppose that your nice collection has been put together for the sake of representing all the exotic and nice stuff that inspire your iconic view of the conflict...so , in this case, also if not historical you can mix all the vehicles...
in fact the 90mm self propelled gun was employed..or at least tried to go in action..only in sicily and with non more than 2 pieces...and , unfortunatly, the Bersaglieri in Africa never received the rare and interesting armoured troop carrier that you showed us...very saw service in the Balcans in anti partisan duties...then a pair went into service, after 1944,  with RSI fascist troops and the few remaining ones were captured and employed by Police German units...you know the doctrine of Italian Armed Forces was, and still is, do not waste modern and updated materials if you can field old ones...after the armistice the Germans captures enormous quantities of brand news very performing Beretta SMG (practically distributed only to police units and never to first line units), brand new modern trucks and off roads vehicles that had been desperatly need in Africa, entire depots gallons and gallons of precious petrol that had not even accounted for, modern artillery A/A pieces and P40 modern tanks ....Albert Speer report about the material find, in fact cautiosly hidden,  in Italian depots and barracks is, in my opinion, the most important document to understand why Italy lost the War...

Can you point me at sources?  I have been trying to find what vehicles were available where for a few months, and I am getting very contradictory data.
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: njetkulturny on 31 July 2017, 09:27:42 PM
Could you be more specific about which vehicles exactly?

Tanks are quite easy acounted for. For SPG and APC it another story.

Fire away.

Cheers  njetkulturny
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: italwars on 31 July 2017, 10:56:01 PM
Can you point me at sources?  I have been trying to find what vehicles were available where for a few months, and I am getting very contradictory data.

yes if you specify wich period and theater..or are you referring to material find after the armistice?
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Sinewgrab on 31 July 2017, 11:13:31 PM
The theater that has my interest currently is North Africa, both pre- and post-Rommel becoming involved.  I mainly have been trying to find out what transports they were using, which of their AFVs were in use where, and what they may have done with those.

Some of the sources I have run into indicate that the 90/53 made an appearance in Tunisia before the British and Americans pushed the Axis out, while others say that they were never used anywhere but Sicily.  The same with the AS37 transport - apparently, according to one source, the prototypes made it to North Africa, but the actual produced vehicle was used in the Balkans and Greece as a police transport.

I honestly started picking things up just because they were shiny, but I really would like a stronger base of knowledge to work from.  I didn't 'desert' my Bassoto, because everyone seems to agree it never left Italy, and it seems to have been used more by the Germans than the Italians.

And did the 11/39 just sort of show up and immediately go away with the introduction of the 13/40 and 14/41?
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Battle Brush Sigur on 01 August 2017, 12:11:37 PM
Very cool thread and good discussions going on. :) I'll keenly follow (not the least because I do Italians for Northern Africa as well).
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: italwars on 01 August 2017, 02:55:52 PM

And did the 11/39 just sort of show up and immediately go away with the introduction of the 13/40 and 14/41?

i'll look at my sources and try to give you exact feedback..
at memory i can answer you to some points:
no the 11/39 did'nt fade away with the apearance of M13
Bassotto and AS37 not only used by Germans and, in case of the troop carrier, by Italian in the balkans..but also by RSI Die hards Italians...which is one my favourite small armies in 20mm
from memory i can also tell you that i have on my sources about both the bassotto and the P40 (which you didnt ask about but his a very rare italian tank )they were both used even by the Royal Italian Army (REI)  in a very short clash vs Germans near Rome the 8th of september 1943 following the Italian betrayal of the German ally after the secret armistice with Allied nations...my source, from a witness, told about brand new tanks without any insigna and never tested
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Sinewgrab on 02 August 2017, 01:46:52 AM
Excellent - you have no idea how I love being able to get a viewpoint from someone not British or German - there seems to be an overwhelming amount "they were there but didn't matter" in the books available in the US.  No discussion of inferior AFVs, or a lack of leadership in key positions, or most importantly broken supply chains, just acting like they didn't really exist, when it is obvious that over half the Axis forces that chased the British into Egypt were obviously REI, not just DAK.  Frustrating - it is like trying to find a history book over here that admits wrongdoing in the treatment of Native Americans...

On less inflammatory notes, do you have anything more concrete on the 90/53?  To me, that beast should have gone straight to the desert as soon as they came up with it.  Matildas and Valentines would have been less than pleased to see it.
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Truscott Trotter on 02 August 2017, 05:39:06 AM
http://www.comandosupremo.com/semovente9053.html
As the Surrender was 12th May is it likely that they got there in time?

http://www.wardrawings.be/WW2/Files/1-Vehicles/Axis/2-Italy/04-SPG/Semovente-M41(90-53)/File/Semovente-M41M(90-53).htm
The 30 copies ordered in January 1942 were delivered in April. On 16 August of the same year they were deemed operational; 24 were delivered to the 10th Reggimento Artiglieria Controcarro Semovente (CLXIme, CLXIIme and CLXIIIme gruppi). Each gruppo owned 8 Semoventi, 8 Portamunizioni L / 40 with their trailer and 4 Carro Commando M41. The Semovente of 90/53 M41M was originally designed to counter Russian tanks, however it was deployed against the Allied tanks landed in Sicily. Four of them were captured by the Allies. The six vehicles remaining in reserve were requisitioned by the Germans after the armistice (September 8, 1943).
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Sinewgrab on 03 August 2017, 01:49:35 AM
If anyone doubts that this is the true use of the internet - sharing of information otherwise impossible to find - they are a porn addict.

I would think that the timeline would allow them to be there - I guess I will have to go searching to see if any of those three groups mentioned joined either Ariete or Centauro...

I think my head hurts.
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Corso on 08 August 2017, 07:18:30 PM
Interesting thread. ;)

I found this book very good - Italian Army Elite Units & Special Forces 1940–43 by Osprey.
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Truscott Trotter on 09 August 2017, 03:26:37 AM
Quick google search on the 10th Reggimento Artiglieria Controcarro Semovente
badly translated from here http://www.vecio.it/cms/index.php/reparti-alpini/supporti/234-10-raggruppamento-artiglieria-controcarro
10th Grouping Artillery Countercarriage

 Last modified: Monday, 21 January 2013 20:29
 Published: Friday, 12 August 2011 10:02
(Subsequently, the 10th Avisio Self-Propelled Artillery Group)


On September 9, 1939 in Verona, the 10th Armored Artillery Group was formed from the deposit of the 5th Artillery Regiment Armada. The department is composed of Groups XXIII and XXIV from 149/35 and LVII from 152/13.
In June 1940 he went to the Dependencies of the 2nd Armed Forces (1st Armed) with Groups XIII, XIV and XXIII of 105/28. From July to October it is under the command of the V Army Corps (2nd Army), then return to the mobilization center.
On April 2, 1941, the Group is again with the V Army Corps with new Groups, XVIII and XXIV from 149/35 and LXVII from 152/13. On May 7, 1942, he handed over the Heavy Groups and assumed the new constitution of 90/53 CLXI, CLXII and CLXIII Countercars Self-Propelled Groups. From now on it assumes the name of the 10th Self-propelled artillery pool.
In July 1942 he was assigned to the 4th Army in Piedmont and Liguria.
He is renamed to the 10th Artillery Controcarro Pool and in November he moved to Sicily at the 6th Army, where he took part in the defensive battle in the Canicattì area.
On August 31, 1943, the department was dissolved for war events, the survivors transferred to the warehouse of the 2nd Artillery Regiment of Armed Forces of Acqui to constitute the 236th Artillery Controversial Self-Propelled Regiment for the Centaur Legionary Division, but on 8 September 1943 The deposit is deleted.

and here  http://www.comandosupremo.com/forums/topic/1093-semovente/

4) 90/53 Self propelled gun (M41 chassis). Only 30 built during 1942 and on 27.4.1942 assigned to the eastern front (8th army). However, on 12.7.1942 this employment was canceled. The 3 batalions (CLXI,CLXII,CLXIII, two batteries each) were in Nettunia (near Roma) for training and later, regrouped in the 10th "Raggruppamento artiglieria controcarro da 90/53 semovente", on 15(or maybe 18.12.1942 arrived in Sicily with 24 SP guns (the other 6, the reserve, remained in Nettunia). They were located: CLXI in Canicattì, later in S.Michele, CLXII in Salemi and CLXIII in Paternò.
They fought there in 1943. All lost (most for mechanical breakdowns: the M41 chassis and powertrain were overloaded with such heavy gun; the last 2 were abandoned in Messina).
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Sinewgrab on 09 August 2017, 04:32:16 AM
Well, I guess that kind of put a nail in.  Well, I guess I won't use it when we are doing proper historical games.  I need to get some Saharianas though...and I still want a Bersaglieri Motorcycle squad.
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Truscott Trotter on 09 August 2017, 07:57:21 AM
Look if its North Africa and they are using Tigers then they must be including Tunisia - so what can't you include Sicily?
In a BA reinforced selector you can have them and its not like you are going to be mixing them in with tanks that were not in Sicily anyway as you only have one armoured slot?
I actually prefer this for coolness factor though
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1141/1784/products/IMG_5218_1024x1024.JPG?v=1454889679)
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa (update 8-18)
Post by: Sinewgrab on 19 August 2017, 02:59:01 AM
So I added a couple more vehicles - still creeping slowly forward with infantry, as I find vehicles more fun to paint. 

An Autoblinda 43 (I think) and an L6-40.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/29/1352_19_08_17_3_56_06_0.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/29/1352_19_08_17_3_56_06_1.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/29/1352_19_08_17_3_56_06_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa (updated, like, 2 years later)
Post by: Sinewgrab on 19 April 2020, 06:17:17 PM
Soooo, I really haven't posted anything to this thread in a while.

But one of my friends pushed my Bolt Action button, and we started talking about what we wanted to do when all of this is behind us, and North Africa came up.  And I started putting together and painting all of the stuff I had collected and gotten distracted away from.

So, new stuff!

A beautiful little Fiat command car from Company B

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/45/1352-190420170421-45725750.jpeg)

A Sahariana from the same company

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/45/1352-190420170422-45726271.jpeg)

A couple of trucks

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/45/1352-190420170424-457271695.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/45/1352-190420170426-45729370.jpeg)

A truck with a big gun...this thing dies easily in the BA rules, but boy does it make Shermans and Crusaders pay attention to sight lines...

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/45/1352-190420170425-45728729.jpeg)

And an adorable little CV33 -  why it's so cut...AAh why am I on fire!?

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/45/1352-190420170535-45730586.jpeg)

And a group of Semovente - all four are 3D prints, from 2 different ebay sellers.  I'm impressed with the cost, but not as much with the prints.  The lines definitely detract from the image, but they look okay at table distance, and allowed me to fill out the ranks without breaking the bank.  They were about $8 each.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/45/1352-190420170536-457311465.jpeg)

And a group shot - this is literally everything I have painted for the Italians, including my precious Bassoto.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/45/1352-190420170537-45732875.jpeg)

Now, I better get to infantry.
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on 19 April 2020, 09:15:32 PM
Nice selection.
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Sinewgrab on 20 April 2020, 01:42:14 AM
Nice selection.

Thank you.  And today, we finished some motorbikes, since Bolt Action gives you the opportunity to give bikes to an entire bersaglieri unit.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/45/1352-200420003915.jpeg)

I used Foundry Germans for the base, and added leftover bersaglieri heads with helmets. For me, that's good enough.
Title: Re: Italians in North Africa
Post by: Sinewgrab on 26 September 2020, 04:33:56 PM
Wow. It's been a while since I posted.

I have actually finished up a few other items.

Company B's wonderful little hauler and 90/53 on trailer.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/1352-260920153020-483391867.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/1352-260920153021-483451963.jpeg)

And I am finally (FINALLY) done with my infantry.  So many straps...

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/1352-260920153023-48346166.jpeg)