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Title: 28mm Early War Germans
Post by: vodkafan on 15 July 2017, 03:42:11 PM
Who makes Early War Germans with jackboots? It seems my choice is between Black Tree Design and Crusader but I have a couple small issues with both these ranges.
Anybody else I don't know about?  (preferably a UK manufacturer or easily available in UK)
Title: Re: 28mm Early War Germans
Post by: vodkafan on 15 July 2017, 04:33:07 PM
Just seen the Victory Force Germans. I remembered I even have a couple. Think they are just the size and dramatic poses I need. Looks like I might have to risk a US order!
Title: Re: 28mm Early War Germans
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on 15 July 2017, 04:36:56 PM
Warlord / Bolt Action make a plastic set of Blitzkrieg Germans.
https://store.warlordgames.com/products/blitzkrieg-german-infantry-plastic-boxed-set
Title: Re: 28mm Early War Germans
Post by: vodkafan on 15 July 2017, 06:24:06 PM
Warlord / Bolt Action make a plastic set of Blitzkrieg Germans.
https://store.warlordgames.com/products/blitzkrieg-german-infantry-plastic-boxed-set

Thanks Mick, I remembered the Warlord straight after I posted but if they are anything like the metals I find them a bit small. 
Title: Re: 28mm Early War Germans
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on 15 July 2017, 06:58:55 PM
The Bolt Action plastics are a very similar size to Artizan and Crusader.
Title: Re: 28mm Early War Germans
Post by: vodkafan on 15 July 2017, 07:25:08 PM
The Bolt Action plastics are a very similar size to Artizan and Crusader.

Yep it's the size of the Crusader that I have issues with. I got a few of the FJ and they are nearly a head shorter than the Valkyrie Norwegians I need them to go with. So if Artizan and Warlord are the same size I need to find something a bit bigger.  But your replies have been most helpful in saving me effort and money, so seriously thanks for that.

On the other hand, if I am going to need to send off to the USA  anyway for the Victory Force, I might as well just buy the Gorgon Norwegians  (which I was trying to avoid) and bin the Valkyrie ones so that would mean I COULD use the Crusader and everything compatible with them, which would work out cheaper in the long run.......so now I'm confused.. :(
Title: Re: 28mm Early War Germans
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on 15 July 2017, 07:27:09 PM
I used to work with Norwegians.  Most of them are a head taller than the Germans and British.  :D
Title: Re: 28mm Early War Germans
Post by: vodkafan on 15 July 2017, 07:36:07 PM
I used to work with Norwegians.  Most of them are a head taller than the Germans and British.  :D

I don't disbelieve you. But I will have to think about this...the Gorgon are really nice
Title: Re: 28mm Early War Germans
Post by: Corporalslim on 16 July 2017, 09:36:52 PM
Artisan also do some figures that can be used

https://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=2032
Title: Re: 28mm Early War Germans
Post by: vodkafan on 17 July 2017, 09:51:13 AM
Thanks Corporalslim .
Last night I had a good look at what I already had and common sense prevailed. The huge differences in size between the Valkyrie Norwegians and the Crusader FJ turned out to be exaggerated in my mind. In actuality it's only about 2-3 millimetre. They will all work fine together, which means I can stick with my original plan to buy Crusader Early War Germans, Fallshirmjager , Brits and French.
I already bought some Black Tree Design Gebirgsjager in the sale, which I like. They look much better in the hand than on the website.

I will still need to send off to the US to buy the Gorgon French Foreign Legion, as these are essential and inescapable.  Also no-one at all makes Chasseurs Alpins, which is frustrating.
Title: Re: 28mm Early War Germans
Post by: Johnny Plywood on 18 July 2017, 12:25:20 PM
I have some Artizan and Crusader Germans.  They're very, very similar in height and do mix well - however the Crusader ones are generally bit "chunkier" in the body.  Looks like the Crusader ones have been spending too much time in the canteen while the Artizan ones have been on short rations.
Title: Re: 28mm Early War Germans
Post by: vodkafan on 18 July 2017, 05:03:37 PM
I have some Artizan and Crusader Germans.  They're very, very similar in height and do mix well - however the Crusader ones are generally bit "chunkier" in the body.  Looks like the Crusader ones have been spending too much time in the canteen while the Artizan ones have been on short rations.

Yes it's not the Artizan/Crusader/Black Tree differences that are the problem- it is the difference between all of these and the Valkyrie Miniatures Norwegians. But I will live with it.
Title: Re: 28mm Early War Germans
Post by: Truscott Trotter on 18 July 2017, 11:34:59 PM
Must admit I have never heard of Valkyrie Miniatures
If their Norwegians are bigger than Gorgons they must be giants indeed

EDIT Can only find 1/35th scale tank crew under that name?
Title: Re: 28mm Early War Germans
Post by: vodkafan on 18 July 2017, 11:37:37 PM
Must admit I have never heard of Valkyrie Miniatures
If their Norwegians are bigger than Gorgons they must be giants indeed

Gorgon Miniatures are big then? I haven't seen any in the flesh but as they are sculpted by Mike Owen I presumed they would be same as Artizan.
Title: Re: 28mm Early War Germans
Post by: Truscott Trotter on 18 July 2017, 11:39:26 PM
I saw some of the Norwgians in the flesh and they were luverly sculpts but noticeably bigger than my BTD figures.
Cannot speak for their other ranges but they would be fine in a complete force of their own
Title: Re: 28mm Early War Germans
Post by: vodkafan on 19 July 2017, 12:50:10 AM
I saw some of the Norwgians in the flesh and they were luverly sculpts but noticeably bigger than my BTD figures.
Cannot speak for their other ranges but they would be fine in a complete force of their own


I just managed to find a comparison photo of the Gorgon and Valkyrie Miniatures Norwegians side by side and to my surprise yes the Gorgons are even bigger!  And here I was worried that my Valkyries would be too big! So I am going to happily stick with my Valkyries, as I have plenty and they are now OOP
The Valkyrie Miniatures went out of business @2010.  The 1/35 stuff is somebody else.
Title: Re: 28mm Early War Germans
Post by: Iain on 21 July 2017, 02:44:49 PM
Whereas what I am looking for are smaller 28mm early war Germans - to be compatible with Perrys, and May 40 Dutch.  Ideas welcome !
Title: Re: 28mm Early War Germans
Post by: Larry R on 21 July 2017, 03:14:00 PM
I have Victory Force miniatures. I also mix them with Artizan and they all look great together.
Title: Re: 28mm Early War Germans
Post by: vodkafan on 21 July 2017, 05:44:01 PM
Whereas what I am looking for are smaller 28mm early war Germans - to be compatible with Perrys, and May 40 Dutch.  Ideas welcome !

Probably Battle Honors or the Early Berlin or Bust sculpts. Do Old Glory do WWII? They might work too. I have some of the Battle Honors British, They are lovely, only 26mm high so no good with anything else.
Title: Re: 28mm Early War Germans
Post by: Andrew_McGuire on 21 July 2017, 07:22:36 PM
I used to work with Norwegians.  Most of them are a head taller than the Germans and British.  :D

Harald Hardrada springs to mind here. Our king Harold had a solution for that, I seem to remember.
Title: Re: 28mm Early War Germans
Post by: Corporalslim on 22 July 2017, 11:07:22 AM
See attached (possibly) photo of left to right
Artisan, Foundry, Warlord, BEF, Crusader, May 1940, Gorgon (polish)
Title: Re: 28mm Early War Germans
Post by: vodkafan on 22 July 2017, 01:28:43 PM
Thanks Corporalslim! Great photo. I have never heard of BEF or May 1940 miniatures, must check them out.
No real issues there with any of those is there. Sometimes I think I am just getting too fussy. But I have decided now for my Germans to go with Crusader and Artizan with a few Black Tree. As mentioned, I will have to send off for the Gorgon FFL at some point as nobody else does them, so may have a few Brits and Germans from them too.
Title: Re: 28mm Early War Germans
Post by: Truscott Trotter on 23 July 2017, 10:04:16 AM
Very interesting photo.
I have heard many reports saying the Foundry Germans are noticeably smaller than others - but they looks slightly larger if anything there.
The only one that looks out of place is the old Warlord metal - which are OOP now.
Title: Re: 28mm Early War Germans
Post by: Black Burt on 23 July 2017, 11:05:13 AM
I think BEF miniatures where sold to Warlord Games.
Title: Re: 28mm Early War Germans
Post by: manchesterreg on 23 July 2017, 01:09:40 PM
I think BEF miniatures where sold to Warlord Games.

Yes they were.
Title: Re: 28mm Early War Germans
Post by: Iain on 23 July 2017, 05:52:10 PM
Thanks very much CorporalSlim - much appreciated.

Vodkafan, May 40 do a very nice range of Dutch WW2 figures. They are about to bring out some vehicles, and may be branching out into other areas soon. You can order direct from their website, or via Sally4th in the UK.
Title: Re: 28mm Early War Germans
Post by: vodkafan on 23 July 2017, 06:02:09 PM
Thanks very much CorporalSlim - much appreciated.

Vodkafan, May 40 do a very nice range of Dutch WW2 figures. They are about to bring out some vehicles, and may be branching out into other areas soon. You can order direct from their website, or via Sally4th in the UK.

Thanks Iain, once i went to the website I did remember seeing them before on the forum. I don't need them at the moment, but you know how it is, you never know....