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Miniatures Adventure => Medieval Adventures => Topic started by: Legiocustodes on July 24, 2017, 06:37:35 PM

Title: Islamic Reinforcements for Outremer: Faith and Blood
Post by: Legiocustodes on July 24, 2017, 06:37:35 PM
Well I have been working at a back-breaking pace to produce some new fighters for my play-testing of Outremer: Faith and Blood

This week I have been focusing on additional Muslim fighters for my Saracen Warband:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-26jxcKYkiRw/WXYToOBToXI/AAAAAAAAC8M/UbIcm-HVzKId4RLaWUnPTal6LqwkJgg4gCHMYCw/s640/blogger-image-1522525323.jpg)

Firstly I decided to give the force some mounted support in the form of an camel rider equipped with sword and shield:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-j13ind5Nq0w/WXYTlvsx-DI/AAAAAAAAC8I/9AK5Vyyrrj49H6ogRlTLtJEX1V7lxa09QCHMYCw/s640/blogger-image-1084714163.jpg)

I then painted three more melee focused infantry models in light armour (Saracen fighters get bonuses when using light armour in the game):

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ULDYzFu5r7U/WXYT-LuCrJI/AAAAAAAAC8s/PxV0Y5-ycywwYbvfHNtie9N0xE3Y4R0QACHMYCw/s640/blogger-image-1289280296.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Hdj6XO8KT8c/WXYTjJrzKFI/AAAAAAAAC8E/zYNJ_2jqK3gJd0MhF4r2QYju1GU-zuaqgCHMYCw/s640/blogger-image--1921727434.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6VlKzdPycc0/WXYTwCJT17I/AAAAAAAAC8Y/61KBt6I409sH8VR9Az6LkoEkwcpvdm-FACHMYCw/s640/blogger-image-1998576455.jpg)

And finally I decided to bulk out the forces ranged firepower in the form of two arab crossbowmen, the crossbow is a suitably terrifying weapon in the game so these should be a welcome addition to the force!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CRx-CtOfjfo/WXYTgf3mbBI/AAAAAAAAC8A/M4H-Pd3F8T86K0XFM0HFE_1S8nrXvEhwACHMYCw/s640/blogger-image-1184191597.jpg)

There are loads more photo and more details on my blog:

http://classicastartes.blogspot.co.uk/2017/07/saracen-fighters-camel-for-outremer.html (http://classicastartes.blogspot.co.uk/2017/07/saracen-fighters-camel-for-outremer.html)






Title: Re: Islamic Reinforcements for Outremer: Faith and Blood
Post by: Orctrader on July 24, 2017, 06:45:18 PM
I like these.   :)

Which manufacturer?
Title: Re: Islamic Reinforcements for Outremer: Faith and Blood
Post by: Legiocustodes on July 24, 2017, 06:54:04 PM
Cheers mate.

The Infantry are all Black Tree Miniatures, I have only just discovered these guys, but they are great!! The camel rider is either Crusader Minis or Gripping Beast I think.
Title: Re: Islamic Reinforcements for Outremer: Faith and Blood
Post by: aphillathehun on July 24, 2017, 07:21:25 PM

That's really nice!  Purple is a good color.
Title: Re: Islamic Reinforcements for Outremer: Faith and Blood
Post by: Legiocustodes on July 24, 2017, 07:23:00 PM
Thanks mate! I have to say I really like the way the purple has come out on these guys!
Title: Re: Islamic Reinforcements for Outremer: Faith and Blood
Post by: FierceKitty on July 24, 2017, 10:36:58 PM
Had purple become affordable since the ancient world?

Camelry??
Title: Re: Islamic Reinforcements for Outremer: Faith and Blood
Post by: Legiocustodes on July 25, 2017, 08:45:21 AM
Possibly.... but you know what isn't affordable; the amount of purple paint it took me to achieve all those layers on the robes! lol
Title: Re: Islamic Reinforcements for Outremer: Faith and Blood
Post by: Plynkes on July 25, 2017, 09:16:27 AM
Had purple become affordable since the ancient world?

Not until Victorian times as far as I'm aware. I guess these guys mugged an emperor and stole all his clothes. :)


That aside, lovely painting!


Title: Re: Islamic Reinforcements for Outremer: Faith and Blood
Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 25, 2017, 09:53:20 AM
Very nice  :)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Islamic Reinforcements for Outremer: Faith and Blood
Post by: Legiocustodes on July 25, 2017, 11:38:48 PM
Cheers guys!

Yeah these are a very successful Warband so lots of good to spend on  dye! Lol
Title: Re: Islamic Reinforcements for Outremer: Faith and Blood
Post by: Tordenskjold on July 26, 2017, 08:53:34 AM
I love that deep purple, works well on the flowing robes.
Title: Re: Islamic Reinforcements for Outremer: Faith and Blood
Post by: Legiocustodes on July 28, 2017, 01:11:54 AM
Cheers mate! I'm pleased with depth and richness of it!
Title: Re: Islamic Reinforcements for Outremer: Faith and Blood
Post by: Exiledadmiral on August 04, 2017, 09:18:39 PM
Really nice work on these, absolutely love the purple and the gradual gradient on the robes. Could I ask what your recipe is for the colour?
Title: Re: Islamic Reinforcements for Outremer: Faith and Blood
Post by: Belgian on August 04, 2017, 09:20:11 PM
Very nice and crisp painting, like them all!
Title: Re: Islamic Reinforcements for Outremer: Faith and Blood
Post by: Phil Portway on August 04, 2017, 10:36:06 PM
Had purple become affordable since the ancient world?

Camelry??

Does it matter FFS! Purple is a great colour to use. They look great.

What is your beef about camels?
Title: Re: Islamic Reinforcements for Outremer: Faith and Blood
Post by: Duncan McDane on August 05, 2017, 03:24:30 AM
Looking good, getting quite curious at your rules system. You have a publisher already for it?
Oh, and, on topic. Devs Vvlt. In purple. On a camel. Because it's racist  :D.
Title: Re: Islamic Reinforcements for Outremer: Faith and Blood
Post by: FierceKitty on August 05, 2017, 03:42:26 AM
There's this thing called reality....
Title: Re: Islamic Reinforcements for Outremer: Faith and Blood
Post by: monkeylite on August 05, 2017, 08:59:09 AM
There's this thing called reality....

Well, I belong to a few pretty antagonistic forums where people argue a lot, and often argue just for the sake of it, and those forums have their place. But this forum generally is brilliant in the way most of the posters try to be encouraging, and on the same page, and mutually supportive of our gaming and painting efforts. That's part of what makes this forum so good, for me.

Yes, we can discuss historical accuracy pretty sharply, but it's usually done in a good spirit and cooperatively, with a view to helping people. All this passive-aggressive, deliberately obscure, churlish, one-line, sniping, doesn't sit so well, for me, with the general good nature and friendliness of the site.
Title: Re: Islamic Reinforcements for Outremer: Faith and Blood
Post by: Legiocustodes on August 09, 2017, 11:10:38 AM
Hi all!

Been away with work for a few weeks so I'll try and address the points in order!

The purple is really easy; I use the triad of Royal Purple A,B and C from foundry; heavily watered down over a black undercoat. I gradually built it up over many layers; this meant I could really graduate the progression of colour. They are fanatastic paints and I really recommend them!

Yeah; it's being published by Osprey in April next year! If you like small scale skirmishes with warbands and strong character development then this will be right up your alley.

Now as for the choice of purple I know it's controversial but it looks great; also can anyone who was there during the crusader period speak up and let me know that there was definitely nobody wearing purple... no; thought not. Don't get me wrong I like realism, but I just found out shockingly this week that soldiers during this period weren't 28mm tall, made of lead and they didn't live in a Wargames box in my spare room.... does this mean I have to burn my collection.
Title: Re: Islamic Reinforcements for Outremer: Faith and Blood
Post by: Phil Portway on August 09, 2017, 12:26:46 PM
Hi all!

Been away with work for a few weeks so I'll try and address the points in order!

The purple is really easy; I use the triad of Royal Purple A,B and C from foundry; heavily watered down over a black undercoat. I gradually built it up over many layers; this meant I could really graduate the progression of colour. They are fanatastic paints and I really recommend them!

Now as for the choice of purple I know it's controversial but it looks great; also can anyone who was there during the crusader period speak up and let me know that there was definitely nobody wearing purple... no; thought not. Don't get me wrong I like realism, but I just found out shockingly this week that soldiers during this period weren't 28mm tall, made of lead and they didn't live in a Wargames box in my spare room.... does this mean I have to burn my collection.

I have the foundry paints, even the yellow & red go on great. 

Oh and I have the same discussion as regards colours at shows when putting on games and use your answer.

As regards burning your collection, only if they do not conform to Fiercekitty colours as he knows....everything & nothing!
Title: Re: Islamic Reinforcements for Outremer: Faith and Blood
Post by: Legiocustodes on August 09, 2017, 12:51:53 PM
I am a recent convert to Foundry but like you say all the colours go on great and the pre-selected triads make life easy with a shade, layer and highlight names Boneyard A,B,C. It's so easy to work out what paints to use rather than obscure unlinked paint names that some brands use!!

Mate it amuses me how worked up people get about what colour the models are painted... It's a hobby; if I want to get stressed I'll spend more time at my day job. First World problems!!
Title: Re: Islamic Reinforcements for Outremer: Faith and Blood
Post by: GamesPoet on August 09, 2017, 01:11:25 PM
Caching!  Love the painting, purple, and hobby outlook.  Well done!
Title: Re: Islamic Reinforcements for Outremer: Faith and Blood
Post by: Duncan McDane on August 09, 2017, 01:21:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-qra604RbU  lol

On topic: Good to hear Osprey will publish it, I'll take 1 please.
Title: Re: Islamic Reinforcements for Outremer: Faith and Blood
Post by: Legiocustodes on August 09, 2017, 03:19:29 PM
 lol lol lol

That clip cracked me up!

The good news is the book is on preorder on Amazon ... just saying  ;)
Title: Re: Islamic Reinforcements for Outremer: Faith and Blood
Post by: redzed on August 09, 2017, 03:49:43 PM
Not until Victorian times as far as I'm aware. I guess these guys mugged an emperor and stole all his clothes. :)


technically it  was Violet  that became available as a dye according to an article I read somewhere :)
Title: Re: Islamic Reinforcements for Outremer: Faith and Blood
Post by: redzed on August 09, 2017, 03:54:15 PM
your figures paint them however you like ;)   

nice skin by the way 8)   Foundry Dark Skin?
Title: Re: Islamic Reinforcements for Outremer: Faith and Blood
Post by: Legiocustodes on August 09, 2017, 08:04:12 PM
Cheers dude! It's Foundry Dusky Flesh a,b,c

I didn't realise until I was up at foundry last week how many Flesh triads they do....so I bought all of them! lol