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Other Stuff => Workbench => Topic started by: stone-cold-lead on 26 July 2017, 12:24:36 PM
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After thumbing through old White Dwarfs I decided to relive the days of the Modelling Workshop articles that showed how to make various buildings for the tabletop. I made a number of models in the early 90's based on these articles but they're long since gone. There was an abortive attempt a few years back to make something but I wasn't using any plans and it didn't go the way I hoped. I still had some of the materials though so I went back to WD 130 that featured the first article on how to build a cottage. It's come together pretty quickly. The only thing that's slowed me down is making the stone chimney. Really enjoying it so far and it's a nice change from bloody painting.
Walls and timbering done.
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I tackled the infill for walls a bit differently to how I did back in the day. Originally thinned down textured filler brushed onto the panels sufficed but I wanted something a bit more realistic so I plastered on a mix of filler, fine sand and some barely noticeable static grass.
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The plan was to use DAS for the stonework as suggested in the article but that stuff ended up seeming to be useless. It's got no adhesive qualities whatsoever and just doesn't have a good texture. No idea how people make anything out of the stuff. Fell back on greenstuff and much happier.
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Currently the chimney is almost finished. It's pretty slow going as I can't do it all in one go for fear of squashing wet putty by accident (which I caught myself doing a few times last night). It's enjoyable though. I know blue foam would be quicker but I wanted to try putty. After that it's just the roof to do and then possibly base the model. Not sure what to do for basing as MDF or hardboard would be my preference but I have no means of cutting the stuff to shape unless I want to buy a jig saw, and a work bench, and clamps and whatever else I might need... ::)
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Lovely little build :)
Are you going to paint it the same way you paint figures~?
cheers
James
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Looks great already!
The plan was to use DAS for the stonework as suggested in the article but that stuff ended up seeming to be useless. It's got no adhesive qualities whatsoever and just doesn't have a good texture. No idea how people make anything out of the stuff. Fell back on greenstuff and much happier.
One tutorial I read the other day suggested rolling out a thin sheet of the DAS, covering the surface it needs to be added to in glue and then add the sheet to the glue, press it down, cut off the excess and texture it. No idea how well it works.
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Lovely little build :)
Are you going to paint it the same way you paint figures~?
cheers
James
No idea. It'll take a bit of thought and maybe a little experimentation to figure out. I really hope I don't mess it up though.
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Looks great already!
One tutorial I read the other day suggested rolling out a thin sheet of the DAS, covering the surface it needs to be added to in glue and then add the sheet to the glue, press it down, cut off the excess and texture it. No idea how well it works.
I guess that could work. I probably won't use it for anything like this but it would be good to find some use for it seeing as I have block just sitting there.
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A very good start, and I agreed that making terrain is pretty relaxing too! :)
With respect to the stonework, I tend to use Milliput. Apply, impress the stonework joins roughly, and let it cure for an hour or so. Then, using a small rock (from the garden, washed), and a little talc to stop it sticking, I impress the rock onto the stones to "print" a stony texture onto them. Finally, just tidy the joins a little where they've been smooshed. Once it's cured, you can further carve the Milliput if you wish, but being careful that you don't pull it off the model.
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Lovely bit of modelling right there. Very nice.
Not sure what to do for basing as MDF or hardboard would be my preference but I have no means of cutting the stuff to shape unless I want to buy a jig saw, and a work bench, and clamps and whatever else I might need... ::)
I'd recommend 3mm MDF (even craft stores have some in smaller sizes, though it's relatively cheap from hardware stores). It'll be thin enough to cut with an utility knife (scoring 2-3 times along the cut) and then using a normal-sized file (cheap from thrift stores, etc). You can then used some sandpaper if needed.
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Lovely bit of modelling right there. Very nice.
I'd recommend 3mm MDF (even craft stores have some in smaller sizes, though it's relatively cheap from hardware stores). It'll be thin enough to cut with an utility knife (scoring 2-3 times along the cut) and then using a normal-sized file (cheap from thrift stores, etc). You can then used some sandpaper if needed.
For this and another cottage I might have already started ;) I was thinking of an irregular oval base rather than a squared one so I might have to bite the bullet and invest in some equipment. I guess it it could be useful in the long run if I go on to make a bunch of models. :)
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Beautiful little build :-*
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For this and another cottage I might have already started ;) I was thinking of an irregular oval base rather than a squared one so I might have to bite the bullet and invest in some equipment. I guess it it could be useful in the long run if I go on to make a bunch of models. :)
I'm in the same boat. I'm going to scale up the McDeath card buildings, but I'm no woodworker!
I'm watching your build intently to get some pointers for the craft end of things. Really nice work so far.
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This is a great project. I like how you have filled in the spaces between the beams. In my own scratchbuilding project I haven't filled in anything at all, at although it may look fine once painted up, I can't help but feel I should've done like you've done.
I probabluy also should've posted here on this forum instead of the fantasy forum - oh well - but here's the link iof you're interested:
From the Warhammer Lake-town house interior to a fully scratch-built version (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=102375.0)
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Your cottage looks great. I'm looking forward to seeing it finished.
I loved those articles; back in the day when WD was good.
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Excellent building - I've had the same issue DAS, I just can't make anything with it. I've never thought of greenstuff bricks.
As for cutting a base - may I suggest you get a rotary tool (one of the better brands in Dremel). A wood cutting bit will make short work of any basing material and then you can switch to a grinding bit to bevel the edge.
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I've finally got the chimney pretty much done. Just need to greenstuff around the pot to make it look the part.
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It's really satisfying to see the rather rough foamboard chimney encased in putty. Got the roof in place too. Had to cut it down as the templates were a bit too long for my tastes. Tricky to fit it as the walls aren't perfectly square so I had to fudge it a little here and there. Can't help thinking I could have done a little better with that but once it's tiled I'm sure it'll be fine.
With the chimney taking quite a while to finish I got a little ahead of myself and started another cottage. Guess you can never have too many. :)
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On the issue of basing I gave in and ordered a few things. B&Q had a cheap jig saw for £20 and a simple work bench for £10 so a couple clamps thrown in and I'm sorted now. Just need to order some sheets of MDF. Found some cheap 3mm A3 sheets on Ebay which will be an ideal size for working with.
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Looking good. I love the chimney GS stone work.
So...will we be seeing a whole village soon? :D
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Good looking cottage :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
For bases I just use hardboard you can cut and shape it with a big stanely knife don't need a jig saw or anything fancy
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Fantastic cottage. A build I've been meaning to do myself. I've built the coaching Inn and townhouse from the old White Dwarfs (a lot of fun I highly recommend them) but never the cottage.
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So...will we be seeing a whole village soon? :D
Well, the plan is to try and work my way through the various modelling articles of the time. For now I'll leave it at the two cottages and then go on to make some of the town houses and build up to doing the coaching inn. :)
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Outstanding work.*thumbs up*
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Well, the plan is to try and work my way through the various modelling articles of the time. For now I'll leave it at the two cottages and then go on to make some of the town houses and build up to doing the coaching inn. :)
Sounds awesome! :D
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As Gamer Mac said, you can cut hardboard, MDF or plastic card with a Stanley knife and then I use a Surform to bevel the edges and make them irregular is shape
https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.pocket-surform.1000102660.html
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I have just scanned my very old printed copies of the Cottage, Townhouse, Ruined Temple and Hills & Mines (missing page 1 for making the hill)
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I have that article somewhere if you want a picture of the missing page...
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Thanks for the offer katie but I believe it only shows how to make the hill from the white insulation foam board and I have made a few hills in my time :)
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Very cool. I built many of the models shown in White Dwarf- I think I had three of every Space Ork building and cardboard vehicle.
Can't say went with that much work on the chimney though!
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Both buildings are looking very good!
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Nice work so far.
I like the GS work and texturing that you have added so far.
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One to follow for sure.
:D
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Thanks for the comments everyone. I'm currently stalled on the first cottage as I wait to finish my breakfast cereal so I can then have the packet to cut into roof tiles. It's like being a bloody kid again! lol The second cottage has finally had the walls rendered and needs a door doing next. Not going to go all in with the stonework on this one though. I'll do a few patches of bare stone and the rest of the chimney will get rendered like the walls.
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I've eaten all the bran flakes! Roof tiles a plenty now. :D
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6mm to 10mm are suggested in the WD article. I went with 8mm. 6mm sounded more to scale but looked too small. 10mm just seemed too big. Still not 100% sure I'm happy with the size (of the tiles!!! ;) ) but hopefully when it's done they'll look ok.
Second cottage is coming along too.
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They're looking fantastic, well done! :)
6mm to 10mm are suggested in the WD article. I went with 8mm. 6mm sounded more to scale but looked too small. 10mm just seemed too big. Still not 100% sure I'm happy with the size (of the tiles!!! ;) ) but hopefully when it's done they'll look ok.
Ah, so heroic-scaled tiles then? Seems appropriate. ;)
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Brilliant!
8) 8)
I've eaten all the bran flakes! Roof tiles a plenty now. :D
Careful!
;)
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They're looking fantastic, well done! :)
Ah, so heroic-scaled tiles then? Seems appropriate. ;)
They match the heroic scale door and window. lol
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Brilliant!
8) 8)
Careful!
;)
Don't worry, I've not been over doing my bran flake consumption just to get the box sooner. lol
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Don't worry, I've not been over doing my bran flake consumption just to get the box sooner. lol
You could have jyst removed the bag of cereal out of the box to get to your tiles sooner. :-)
Been 5 days w/o an update. You sure you didn't over due it and you been on the toilet all this time?
Grimm
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You could have jyst removed the bag of cereal out of the box to get to your tiles sooner. :-)
Been 5 days w/o an update. You sure you didn't over due it and you been on the toilet all this time?
Grimm
lol
Just working on the chimney of the second cottage. Although this has also happened...
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Ah, I see that you have managed to find a small enough table that you can fit in the khazi with you.
:D
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Ah, I see that you have managed to find a small enough table that you can fit in the khazi with you.
:D
I take all my meals there too. lol
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Second cottage pretty much done now. Slightly different take on the finish of the chimney on this one (no, I didn't do all the stone work and then cover most of it up ;) ). I reduced the roof tile size to 7mm which looks a little better although there are issues with ensuring they alternate evenly. Wouldn't have thought that would have been a problem but it was.
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Really need to sort out what I'm going to do painting wise now.
I also stuck together the parts for the two town houses.
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Looking good.
Tony
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I like the variation your working in to these.
Do you cut all the tiles individually or are they in one piece rows? Keeping them in one piece may make lining them up easier.
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I like the variation your working in to these.
Do you cut all the tiles individually or are they in one piece rows? Keeping them in one piece may make lining them up easier.
Individual tiles cut out for these. The 8mm ones on the first model lined up perfectly well but 7mm seems a little awkward. Might try strips of tiles for higher class buildings that need neater looking roofs.
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I like that a lot. Agree that single tiles are a pain in the b... to get right but I have to say yours look pretty good. Can't wait to see them painted up.
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Wonderful progress.
They all look great and I will join the queue eagerly awaiting the colouring-in.
8) 8)
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I had good results with strips of tiles, but obviously couldn't "line them up" with previous lines of tiles to get good alternating patterns. My tiles were also significantly smaller... and even though I tried to mix things up by cutting some at different angles and different lengths, the end result is still fairly satisfactory:
(http://gdurl.com/xlrB)
I used a few individual tiles with braille-rivets (from my saved up medicine boxes) to portray tiles that had slipped. Although it surely isn't as visually pleasing as an individually-tiled roof, it was probably quicker. I say that, even though I spent over 2 hours preparing the shingle strips and another 2+ hours painting them. I also wonder if I shouldn't have overlapped them more. A few of the strips show signs of having been laid down too hastily, and too high on the underlying layer. I'm sure it'll be unnoticeable once I get some moss and creepers laid down. Now to find some birch seed pods for the ivy!
I really like the way this village is shaping up. The plaster between the beams is perfect!
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Great modelling! :-*
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Lovely work.
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So. Beautiful. :-*