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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: Askellad on August 13, 2017, 10:21:39 AM
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Omagad!
Plastic escher and goliath
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/13/breaking-news-necromunda-returnsgw-homepage-post-1/ (https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/13/breaking-news-necromunda-returnsgw-homepage-post-1/)
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Those Goliaths look great.
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Seeing as I've bought loads of the new terrain for Shadow war I may as well invest in the new gangs as well!
Bravo GW
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Multi-part kits!!! I hope they do Orlocks as well. I reckon they're the most generic looking gang, so perfect for building all sorts of civilians and extras.
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I am in! :o 8)
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:o Great news.
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Oh dear, I sense that I'm about to become very poor! :'( lol
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Count me in.
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Eschers and Goliaths were the two gangs I played in my long running campaign when Necromunda first came out. I can see me buying these two sets for sure. :D
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Oooooh!
Never liked the original Goliaths (and I draw a veil over the version 2 figures for all houses).
These look good.
Hopefully the game will build on SW:A and use that version of 40K.
Though O'clock is my default (I used a Tallarn box set way back when), Cawdor and Redemptioners would be great in plastic as an expansion (hint hint).
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Some info about models and rules
Release should be November slot. First 6 gangs release schedule sorted.
Plastic gangs and then outlanders then expanding to new gangs!!!! Takes time.
More skill tables including leader and trade ones.
Game loosely based on 8th but expanded mechanics. Intergrates turn sequence, model by model activation. Leaders and champions help..
By activating additional models, juices need to be near others to guarantee activation
(https://i.imgur.com/CVlwvUO.jpg)
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Some info about models and rules
(https://i.imgur.com/CVlwvUO.jpg)
So that sounds like the rules won't be like SWA/Classic Munda? That seems....odd.
Unless I'm reading that wrong.
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I think there was talk of an action point system not unlike spacehulk. I'm not saying it's going to be good, but I like them stepping out a bit activation wise.
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Now that 40K 8E is out, it's not surprising that they're using it for the core mechanics with suitable mods and chrome added on. Not a horrible set of rules, and the biggest complaints I've heard all revolve around vehicles - which should be a non-issue in Necromunda. The models look nice, and it sounds like probably all six of the original core gangs will be returning initially, followed by the farther-out stuff in Outlanders.
Have to wonder about that last line. "Juices" are a typo or renamed juves, maybe? Make sense if they needed friendlies nearby to avoid dithering.
Brightest point of this for me is I'd call it proof that we can expect Battlefleet Gothic to relaunch eventually, and the models will be amazing.
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P...p...p...plastic Van Saar?!??! Could it be true????
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Also technobarbarians versus thunder warriors is going to be a cinch. Converted Sigmar fellows versus Goliaths. Easy peasy.
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I'm in, though I'm not a fan of action point systems - never enjoyed that much.
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Ohboyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboy... err, I mean, that looks OK I guess.
Never a big fan of the game, but have loved the setting since Confrontation. I am excite.
not a fan of action point systems - never enjoyed that much.
If you didn't enjoy 1st ed Space Hulk you have no soul ;) (Unless that isn't what you had in mind with AP systems).
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Time to go back to WH40K. Most of the models will probably be enhancing my Dark Heresy RPG sessions as well. :) Statuesque female headset and those Escher = love at first sight.
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Well I'll see what the new rules are like before purchasing them. I have about 5 necromunda gangs, Cawdor, Orlock, Goliath, a small amount of ratskins, Scavvies and Spyrers plus a huge amount of hired guns (Wyrds, bounty hunters, Scum etc) and random figures from various factions. I don't think I actually need new minis... but who is that stopping anyway.
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What I hope personaly, is that these new releases will lower the prices for old necromunda metal figures : I still need to find some spyrers and vansaar heavy weapon for cheap lol
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P...p...p...plastic Van Saar?!??! Could it be true????
The spice must flow!
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I wonder how big the new plastics will be against the old metals
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That's a good question ! Especially for us who have a metal figures collection from the old days.
For the gotiaths, it should not be a problem, considering they are gangers on steroids, except if weapons are very diferent from the originals, but for the other gangs, it will be interesting to find the answer !
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@Love_the_Lash
Wanna make fremen with van saar?
My idea too.. :D
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I like the update on the Goliaths, I was never a fan of the previous incarnations.
Picking this up for sure, here's hoping it's not a silly limited print run ;)
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Wonderful news, guys! I'm really excited about this. I'm all in with Jagannath's ideas: Necromunda/ AoS - Crossover!!!!
He-Man, Flash Gordon, Leather Goddesses of Phobos! Wow, this could be cool!
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Chuffed that they're bringing an updated Necromunda back for sure. I like the Goliath models - they could definitely used for other projects too. The Eschers... I don't know, their legs seem rather sturdy to me, big ol chunky boots! I'll be keen to see how they scale up with other stuff.
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I was so happy to see this finally announced, I dropped my Game of Thrones KS pledge to $1. lol
I'm anticipating getting two or three sets depending on what the terrain offering is like. I believe they said no new terrain, so we'll likely get some of the Shadow War terrain.
Love what I'm hearing about the rules changes. Ditching IGOUGO is long overdue. Supposedly bringing back some things from Rogue Trader for stats too. Will be interesting to say the least.
~Eric
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Personally, I wouldn't mind them redoing the cardboard floors and plastic bulkheads again.
It worked really well last time and would mean that the starter set would be a bit more affordable. After all, if there are two gangs involved you are probably looking at 6-7 miniatures per gang.
Shadow War is around £100. The coverage the older Necromunda starter set gave on a table was fantastic.
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Actually from some of the reports I'm seeing on Dakka, it is going to be card terrain in the starter set. No mention of the bulkheads.
Kind of a bummer really.
Still hyped for the game though. And since I have a brand new FLGS that opened nearby recently, I might actually get to play. lol
~Eric
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Well, a lot of my card terrain perished with use and a few house moves so I might just see if I can do something similar with some card or thin mdf myself.
The mantic stuff looks like it would be good for purpose as well. And if the starter box is more like bloodbown and £40 ish then might be worth spending the £60 you'd save on terrain like that or some of the lasercut mdf stuff that's out there.
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I'm not going to lie; if it's decent card and plastic terrain like old box was, that's fine by me. Doubly so if it keeps the price down and helps with storage. 8)
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Rumor has it that Specialist Games is focusing on the gangs and the new Necromunda will be using the Sector Mechanicus terrain from Shadow Wars.
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Somebody mentioned plastic sewer style tunnels.. so I wouldn't count on too much 3d aspect in it.. Probably only corridors.
Size wise Eschers look much larger and beefier than Jess Goodwin models.
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Somebody mentioned plastic sewer style tunnels.. so I wouldn't count on too much 3d aspect in it.. Probably only corridors.
Size wise Eschers look much larger and beefier than Jess Goodwin models.
I think there was mention somewhere of using forgeword zone mortalis tiles for that, might that be what you are thinking of?
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So far I like what I am seeing.
When I was a little nipper i started out with a few games of Space Crusade and they led to Necromunda and thus I was hooked on miniatures wargaming. So to me Necromunda will always have a special place.
It is a bit sad that i looks like they are upping the scale so that it will be hard to mix and match old and new. But still the new looks rather nice.
I am suddenly feeling an urge to start building underhive terrain.
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Somebody mentioned plastic sewer style tunnels.. so I wouldn't count on too much 3d aspect in it.. Probably only corridors.
Size wise Eschers look much larger and beefier than Jess Goodwin models.
According to GW they are the same size but with longer high heels lol
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I reckon the Eschers are about 32mm to the eye (35mm high), unposed. They are definitely very tall for GW minis. They also have unusually "realistic" proportions for GW minis with a head to body ratio of about 6.5-7x and leg to body proportion of 1:1, which I cannot remember having seen on any GW mini before. They still have big feet and big hands, though! So not everything's lost.
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I reckon the Eschers are about 32mm to the eye (35mm high), unposed. They are definitely very tall for GW minis. They also have unusually "realistic" proportions for GW minis with a head to body ratio of about 6.5-7x and leg to body proportion of 1:1, which I cannot remember having seen on any GW mini before. They still have big feet and big hands, though! So not everything's lost.
They look like they are in similar proportion to all of the newer 40K human miniatures. The more realistic proportions started around the release of the Tempestus Scions and have continued since.
~Eric
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Sounds about right for amazonian women in high boots no?
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I think there was mention somewhere of using forgeword zone mortalis tiles for that, might that be what you are thinking of?
No, it was intel on box set composition leaked at the event but as is with such a rumors we could never tell.
According to GW they are the same size but with longer high heels lol
Would be cool but I doubt it.
All in all I waited for high heels Escher whole 20 years..
(Only mad Donna wears them in the original set)
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Rumor has it that Specialist Games is focusing on the gangs and the new Necromunda will be using the Sector Mechanicus terrain from Shadow Wars.
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I've been watching various places online with a keen eye.
The strongest rumours are around cardboard terrain although it is not clear as to whether it will feature plastic bulkheads like before or not.
The chatter generally seems to be about whether it will follow the Bloodbowl model. If it does then cardboard makes sense. And we can be looking at a price point of around £40-50.
It would also mean that all of the main gangs, as they have kind of confirmed, will be plastic with forgeworld handling the equivalent of star players - so hired guns etc. I suspect that possibly some of the outlander gangs, and the rarer gangs might be made in resin - like Spyrers which need fewer models.
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Blood bowl sells for £65. That is 2 team and a card pitch. I doubt we will see Necromunda for less than £100 unless they skip terrain entirely. I hope I am wrong. Guess I am just too jaded about GW pricing to be hopeful :?. Granted I never thought they would make new gangs after SWA was released. I figured at best it would be a limited time recast of the original models. So hey I am already happy with what is coming :D.
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Someone interviewed had mentioned a sub-100 pound product...hence the likelihood of card terrain. By sub-100, I'm guessing 99.95. :D
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I figured at best it would be a limited time recast of the original models. So hey I am already happy with what is coming :D.
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I wonder if they will do a recast. They did with blood bowl.
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I really hope, still need original Goliaths, van Saar and Spyrers to full my collection of 1st edition miniatures.
But did they release old BB models for team they put into plastic ?
I remember mostly models for rare teams.
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Blood bowl sells for £65. That is 2 team and a card pitch. I doubt we will see Necromunda for less than £100 unless they skip terrain entirely. I hope I am wrong. Guess I am just too jaded about GW pricing to be hopeful :?. Granted I never thought they would make new gangs after SWA was released. I figured at best it would be a limited time recast of the original models. So hey I am already happy with what is coming :D.
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Yeah, I was going by a price I saw elsewhere and forgot it was discounted.
To be honest, if they are doing this properly, I wonder if they will just give it the space hulk treatment and update but keep to the same format for the terrain? I'm not sure the SWA has enough coverage to offer the same type of game. I am willing to be proven wrong as the rules are to be different so who knows.
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Blood bowl sells for £65. That is 2 team and a card pitch. I doubt we will see Necromunda for less than £100 unless they skip terrain entirely. I hope I am wrong. Guess I am just too jaded about GW pricing to be hopeful :?. Granted I never thought they would make new gangs after SWA was released. I figured at best it would be a limited time recast of the original models. So hey I am already happy with what is coming :D.
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Shadow War Armageddon was £80 undiscounted with 20 miniatures and a pile of the new terrain. Eight sprues of terrain which in the separate releases totals about £90 IIRC. Plus £18 for the Orks and £30 for the scouts. Add rules, templates, dice and whatnot and it's not far from a half price bundle.
GW's recent stuff in the boxed sets has been phenomenal value in comparison to their old pricing strategy. SWA was such good value it sold out almost instantly. A similar Necromunda bundle would probably be priced nearer £100 and be done in larger numbers to take full advantage of the likely demand. I'd be astonished if it's not got plastic terrain in- possibly new Sector Mechanicus sprues- at £100 ish. If they go just cardboard terrain and gangers it'll be nearer £50. After 40k 8th triple starter release they might do both.
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Since there is also a discussion on the Necromunda re-release in the GW Discussion thread, and since there is no actual product to show yet, I would prefer to fold back this discussion into the GW Discussion thread. Please continue over here in accordance with the Crossposting rule.
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=57122.0;topicseen