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Miniatures Adventure => The Second World War => Topic started by: dexey on 04 November 2017, 08:00:57 PM
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I've had several 20mm Valiant British and German WW2 figures in the cupboard for awhile.
I seem to recall that I put them away because I was confused about scale when I started wargaming three years ago and wasn't sure which vehicles would fit with them.
Any advice, please?
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I've found Westwinds 'Berlin or Bust' vehicles work well. They are really small by modern 28mm standards, being 'small' 1/60th and they actually look spot on with the Valiant figures.
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A few of the smaller diecasts work well too and are cheap as chips if you want a lot of generic softskins. The Corgi "cameo collectables" Morris truck and the Bedford bus look great with the Valient figures painted in military colours. Look for the ones with the solid wheels rather than the later issue of spoked wheels. I bought a job lot of them off ebay and they worked out £1 each even after postage.
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Thank you both.
I sometimes use vehicles of around 1/60th with my 28mm figures and hadn't thought of the same for 20mm. Cheers.
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Thank you both.
I sometimes use vehicles of around 1/60th with my 28mm figures and hadn't thought of the same for 20mm. Cheers.
The thing is, Valiant figures are not really "20mm". For years 20mm was happily 1/76. Then 1/72 got more popular. A 5'9" man in 1/72 scale should be 24mm tall to top of head, but the Valiant are around 26mm, which makes them much nearer 1/64. I actually bought the Valiant figures when they came out, and I like them a lot, although real life got in the way back then and I gave up gaming for a while.
If I was going to use them now, apart from the odd small diecast truck I would use plastic PSC 1/72 vehicles with them just because of the availability and low cost.
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The Valiant figures are huge, but they go OK with the Ready to Roll 1/72nd scale range (which are also huge compared to other 1/72nd scale stuff, let alone 1/76th).
I got a couple of of boxes when they came out and was so disappointed with their bizarre scale that I just slung them in the loft whilst thinking resentful thoughts. They did paint up nicely.
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The Valiant figures are huge, but they go OK with the Ready to Roll 1/72nd scale range (which are also huge compared to other 1/72nd scale stuff, let alone 1/76th).
I got a couple of of boxes when they came out and was so disappointed with their bizarre scale that I just slung them in the loft whilst thinking resentful thoughts. They did paint up nicely.
Haha It depends from which perspective you are looking from. The Valiant figures are not big, they are too small....they occupy a strange desolate no-wargamer's land....
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Hasegawa's vehicles are usually bigger than 1/72, might be worth looking at.
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Hasegawa's vehicles are usually bigger than 1/72, might be worth looking at.
I have a Hasegawa US half track, that is bigger than other 1/72 M3s I have. I didn't realise it was across the whole range though, thanks for the hint zirrian.
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I have the hasegawa and I still think it looks too small against the valiant figures
I have a box of the US infantry that I have never built as they don't size up with any other stuff I have
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I have a Hasegawa US half track, that is bigger than other 1/72 M3s I have. I didn't realise it was across the whole range though, thanks for the hint zirrian.
Actually, it's the Easy Eight Sherman that is a monster, I can't use it with my other Shermans. More recent releases are well regarded in the 1/72 community. Here's a list of Hasegawa kits from On The Way! I don't find the US half track too large at all - it's big compared to Airfix's, but that's 76 versus 72.
http://www.onthewaymodels.com/kitlists/Hasegawa%20Kits.htm
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Actually, it's the Easy Eight Sherman that is a monster, I can't use it with my other Shermans. More recent releases are well regarded in the 1/72 community. Here's a list of Hasegawa kits from On The Way! I don't find the US half track too large at all - it's big compared to Airfix's, but that's 76 versus 72.
http://www.onthewaymodels.com/kitlists/Hasegawa%20Kits.htm
That was a useful document Tim, thanks. I actually want the over scale E8 and the M3 Stuart now for my Valiant figs. I would take the E8 off your hands if you want to trade for something or sell?
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Actually, it's the Easy Eight Sherman that is a monster, I can't use it with my other Shermans. More recent releases are well regarded in the 1/72 community. Here's a list of Hasegawa kits from On The Way! I don't find the US half track too large at all - it's big compared to Airfix's, but that's 76 versus 72.
http://www.onthewaymodels.com/kitlists/Hasegawa%20Kits.htm
My two bases for comparison were the Easy Eight and the Stuart - both rather big.
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This is an Armourfast Cromwell of mine
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8124/8627354139_9915fbcf1c_b.jpg)
If I had set it on a base it would be better but doesn't look too out of scale for gaming
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Yep looks fine scalewise, nice to know thanks. I am one of the worst for agonizing over scale.
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That was a useful document Tim, thanks. I actually want the over scale E8 and the M3 Stuart now for my Valiant figs. I would take the E8 off your hands if you want to trade for something or sell?
Hmmm, not sure. I've never given away anything I have that I've actually made - my first tank model, an Airifx Panzer IV I made when I was in grade 4 in the early 70s is still on my display shelves. :) Sentimentality -good thing I don't feel that way about other things or I'd be on the Hoarder's TV show, for sure.
All the best.
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Hmmm, not sure. I've never given away anything I have that I've actually made - my first tank model, an Airifx Panzer IV I made when I was in grade 4 in the early 70s is still on my display shelves. :) Sentimentality -good thing I don't feel that way about other things or I'd be on the Hoarder's TV show, for sure.
All the best.
None of my airfix models survived my childhood. I blew most of them up with fireworks. My Large USS Enterprise Star Ship got launched out of the bedroom window with some HO airfix figures stuffed into the hull as crewmen...the smash on the patio was spectacular.
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Hi there
I have a single sprue of Valiant figures , will to send anywhere in the UK for the cost of postage ?
Is has about 15 figures and several weapons m/g , mortar & bazooka although I am unsure whether they are British or Americans ?
I can email a picture if that helps ?
What about Esci kits , they were badged as 1/72 and always look 'big' next to Airfix stuff ?
regards Paul
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I'll take it....
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I'll take it....
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