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Miniatures Adventure => Fantasy Adventures => Topic started by: Magos Kasen on November 22, 2017, 11:28:10 AM
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So, despite these guys being out for a little while now, I haven't seen too many painted examples.
I was pretty excited at the prospect of generic plastic dwarves, given my enduring love for the stunty bearded blokes. I ordered a couple boxes as well as the metals from a local store here in Aus, and received mine yesterday arvo.
To be completely honest, I'm somewhat disappointed in the set - I knew from the sprue pics that there were some corners cut, but the lack of diversity in arms, especially shield arms which come in one pose only, clutched right up against the chest, was a real shame. The heads are easily the weakest part of the set, since apparently the sculptor thought he was making a set of heavily armed garden gnomes. I don't mind a bit of variety, and having some hooded/bare heads is a nice addition, but only having 4/10 of the core heads wearing helmets... and most of the heads are frankly fairly ugly. Not impressed. The models also suffer from the silly 'shoulder pads' this sculptor also included on the arms for all the frostgrave plastics, which made little sense on heavily clothed cold weather figures, and even less on chainmail byrnie clad ones.
All those gripes aside, the kit isn't terrible, with the bodies in particular being excellent, with some nice details. I just wish a little more time had been spent on creating more diversity in arms, and some better heads.
To help remedy the flaws, I've used greenstuff to extend the cloth coif's on some of the models to cover the ugly shoulder pads, as well as adding appropriate moustaches to the heads that lack them.
Here is the results of a few hours painting tonight, a single warrior and a ranger made using parts from the Frostgrave barbarian box. Neither have been based, since I'm not yet sure how I want to base these guys, but otherwise they're more or less done to tabletop standard.
(https://i.imgur.com/I7hclqJl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/zU6qWxnl.jpg)
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Nice work on those.
The points you raised (gnome like head features and poor sculpt of the arms) was one reason I decided to pass on these - pretty hard as a dedicated beard fan! But there are so many dwarfs around it's easy to get the stunty fix from elsewhere.
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I did wonder about what you called the 'shoulder pads' - initially thinking they were simply a continuation of the cloth worn around the neck, but as it turns out they don't match up.
While I like the rather characterful faces, I also don't fully understand why the decision was made to have so few helmeted heads in what is a set of armoured Dwarves. Being Dwarves they may be heavily equipped even as scouts or rangers, but surely the first defence should always be something sturdy protecting your head. That said, having a hooded head does mean adding a cloak clearly makes for a rather nice Dwarf ranger figure...
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Thanks for that. When the initial pictures came out I thought the heads looked the weakest part of the sculpts. Would Grpping Beast plastic Vikings heads fit?
So far, I will pass on the dwarves. I am going to wait for the full range of these chaps
(https://preview.ibb.co/kvdcV6/conquereor_dwarves_1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/naw9cm)
or go with these guys
(https://preview.ibb.co/h3QwOR/DW001.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gdXMq6)
The orcs look better and I will cross my fingers for the elves.
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Good review. TBH I looked at these guys once and was then reminded that there are almost 30 years' worth of fantastic dwarf sculpts out there in 28mm. I just don't need more for my lead mountain!
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Thanks for that. When the initial pictures came out I thought the heads looked the weakest part of the sculpts. Would Grpping Beast plastic Vikings heads fit?
So far, I will pass on the dwarves. I am going to wait for the full range of these chaps
(https://preview.ibb.co/kvdcV6/conquereor_dwarves_1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/naw9cm)
or go with these guys
(https://preview.ibb.co/h3QwOR/DW001.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gdXMq6)
The orcs look better and I will cross my fingers for the elves.
Where are those spear dwarves from?
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Where are those spear dwarves from?
Conqueror Models. Nice ain't they?
https://conquerormodels.com/product-category/28mm-fantasy/dwarfs/
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Conqueror Models. Nice ain't they?
https://conquerormodels.com/product-category/28mm-fantasy/dwarfs/
The photo is at an angle where they look tall, but yes they are nice
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When the initial pictures came out I thought the heads looked the weakest part of the sculpts. Would Grpping Beast plastic Vikings heads fit?
A Mr. Sparkes on the Oathmark Facebook Group did just that:
(https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/23658364_499402843748785_1382906055025707124_n.jpg?oh=52bb118fceb7c244e764f1fdfe0cb601&oe=5A88E8FB)
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You have done a splendid job with them.
That said, also glad I didn't order a box and went for 32 Conqueror Models Dwarves plus the metal Oathmark Dwarven command instead :-)
Have pre-ordered a box of the Oathmark Goblins though.
The Conqueror Dwarves are splendid, just the right size.
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A Mr. Sparkes on the Oathmark Facebook Group did just that:
(https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/23658364_499402843748785_1382906055025707124_n.jpg?oh=52bb118fceb7c244e764f1fdfe0cb601&oe=5A88E8FB)
I think I might need to buy myself a box of vikings now... Damn haha.
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I'm not a dwarf fan but I did consider picking up a box with the Oathmark goblins for a pseudo dark ages Tolkienesque mash up. I'm not sure now, especially after seeing those Conqueror dwarves. I had a good look on the website and they're some of the nicest I've seen.
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The Oathmark metal Dwarven command just turned up in the letterbox - they are really nice :)
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I'm not a dwarf fan but I did consider picking up a box with the Oathmark goblins for a pseudo dark ages Tolkienesque mash up. I'm not sure now, especially after seeing those Conqueror dwarves. I had a good look on the website and they're some of the nicest I've seen.
They just need bigger beards. ;)
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They just need bigger beards. ;)
Thanks, I knew there was something about them, couldn't quite put my finger on it. They are none too rotund either, so they are in danger of looking like short men. I like my dwarfs a bit rounder. lol
Anyway, back on topic, the Oathmark dwarfs could have been much better if they had added in a few more heads, giving you the option to go fully helmet on a unit, or fully hooded, or a mix.
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Nice paint jobs.
The viking heads look cool.
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The Viking arms are quite dynamic too
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I bought a couple of boxes of dwarves,to date I've only assembled five :'(
I do like them though, I don't even mind the arms. My niggles are...
Not enough helmets. I'd like enough Saxon style helmets for the unit.
No scabbards for the sword arms.
Not enough depth to the beards. The back of them are flat, which can look er, flat, on the figures.
Am I glad I bought them? Yes, I am. :D
In my opinion, the conversions with the Viking heads don't work. I am going to use them as is, they look more dwarfy...
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Nice paint jobs.
I like them, and will get some, even though I have no immediate use for them.
The kitbashing with the Viking heads looks like a great way to make young dwarf warriors who’ve yet to grow the iconic beards of their older kinsmen :)
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Nice paint jobs.
I like them, and will get some, even though I have no immediate use for them.
The kitbashing with the Viking heads looks like a great way to make young dwarf warriors who’ve yet to grow the iconic beards of their older kinsmen:)
Beardlings!
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I have just f#$%*&g tried to f#$%*&g glue some b@$^@d plastic multipart multipose multipaininthebum figures and have been reminded of why I hate them. The only think that got stuck were my fingers and everything else fell apart. I think I will give plastic orcs and dwarves (and probably elves) a miss. I may buy the metal ones. Otherwise, I will be looking at other producers. >:( >:( >:( >:(
The metal dwarves, incidentally, are better, to my mind, than the plastic ones and most of the metal orcs are perfectly fine.
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Multipart is one of those things you either love or hate. Luckily there’s so much variety on the market that we can all find what suits us :)
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I have just f#$%*&g tried to f#$%*&g glue some b@$^@d plastic multipart multipose multipaininthebum figures and have been reminded of why I hate them. The only think that got stuck were my fingers and everything else fell apart. I think I will give plastic orcs and dwarves (and probably elves) a miss. I may buy the metal ones. Otherwise, I will be looking at other producers. >:( >:( >:( >:(
The metal dwarves, incidentally, are better, to my mind, than the plastic ones and most of the metal orcs are perfectly fine.
Are you using plastic glue? I must admit, while I prefer metal models to paint, for assembly, plastic is streets ahead...
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You are using the wrong glue. Get yourself some of this.
(https://i.imgur.com/c3p1u2D.jpg)
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I have not tried the new dwarfs (I got a sprue at Salute, so it could be years before I do anything with them).
Assuming they have not changed the plastic mix from the barbarians, cultists, soldiers and gnolls, the plastic should bond using Humbrol liquid poly.
Some plastics do resist Humbrol liquid poly, I have had issues with some Rubicon kits (they have a higher ABS content). Other modellers report that Tamiya thin cement is suitably more aggressive.
Polystyrene cement - only use superglue if you want to go insane!.
http://www.thecommguild.com/roller/ (http://www.thecommguild.com/roller/)
I even managed to glue together Starship Trooper miniatures with liquid poly.
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You are using the wrong glue. Get yourself some of this.
(https://i.imgur.com/c3p1u2D.jpg)
Or some of this:
(https://i.imgur.com/d17HB6w.jpg)
Probably harder to get where you want it, though.
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Sorry to hijack this thread, but does anyone have extra Conqueror Dwarves they'd like to get rid of? I like them a lot, but I'd only need some poses for a abdn of skirmishers, and not entire ranks of spear-dwarves (of all options...) I asked if they would sell them in smaller numbers, but as one might guess, they're not really keen on that idea. lol
Or failing that, I could order them and then split the packs with someone? They're not badly priced, so I might just order a bunch, and then sell extras off in my good time.
EDIT: oh yeah, Andy from Conqueror also told me they're going to release bow/x-bow dwarves later, and probably some with one-hand weapons (axes & short swords). So it's looking better and better for heavy troops.