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Title: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: Gunbird on 02 December 2017, 03:41:25 PM: In the past 15 years I have collected tons of stuff and systems. I think I have used and painted every scale from 1/3000 to 28mm for the Medieval to the Sc-Fi eras. Over the last 2 years I have sold loads, but also bought ....quite a bit. Like many wargamers, I'm a bit of a magpie. My Aspergers doesn't help much either.

And I'm pretty sick of it. Hopping from bit to bit on a daily basis means I get nothing done. I have multiple drawers with semi built and semi painted stuff. And enough stuff in stock to last me several lifetimes. As I'm selling off stuff to clear the attic as well, avoiding forums, Facebook and salesgroups is a bit hard so the Ooh shiney..... is hard to resist.

So.....how not to buy new miniatures and kits in 2018?

Things I'm thinking of....
- Cancel my creditcard
- Cancel my Paypal
- Cancel Alieexpress and Ebay
- Doing a build off with my local gaming guys, working towards a common goal
- Having to build a force for an event
- Don't go to shows and events
- Unsubscribe from stores Newsletters and FB groups
- Actually scheduling time to build and paint and not doing it ad-hoc

Anyone have any ideas that actually (could) work? When I told my wife I want to try not buying stuff for 2018 her response was just a bit shy of hysterical laughter, so no help there.

(Yes, I know it might seem a tad childish but building and painting is my only hobby these days and I don't just want to walk away, but actually finish stuff and be happy about it again)
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: Quendil on 02 December 2017, 03:51:13 PM: Have you gone through your stuff and tried to cut it down to a small number of projects? Thats what I have been doing and I am buying less but still too much. Not going to shows and unsubscribing to newsletters will cut down on the wanting new shiny stuff I suppose.

Could you put your wife in control of any purchases so she has the final say? As I think it may be hard to buy nothing at all.

How about giving yourself a small budget each month and making sure it has to fit in with one of your projects with no new systems/projects.

Its a hard one, I have been trying to spend less which has only worked as I lost my Job ::)
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: joroas on 02 December 2017, 03:53:24 PM: I am in the same boat, I have several years of stuff built up and I sold £2500s worth of stuff this year and still culling! I stopped going to shows and, although the shiny kicks in, I have avoided any new periods this year. I could sell loads more, but I am keeping a healthy backlog in as it won't go down in price! I made a list of stuff to complete in 2018, but that soon leads to what you can realistically complete in 2019-2030........

Make a list of what you can REALISTICALLY complete in 2018, get what what you need to finish the jobs and then buy NOTHING else!!!!!

It is working for me!!!!!
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: Vanvlak on 02 December 2017, 04:03:35 PM: I'm tackling the problem in a different way - I'm looking at it as a storage problem, so I'm trying to clear all the stuff on my paint table and the shelves around it - also helps with the dusting. Then I'll move on through the boxes and then the cellar. It sounds like a chore, it's not organised, but it does seem to be working. I finished 38 models in November, whiich is close to my personal record - although 14 of these were minor repaints of purchased models.
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: Dave Knight on 02 December 2017, 04:12:06 PM: What works for me is a firm commitment to a an event of some sort.

It does not guarantee no new purchases but does at least result in projects getting finished
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: Elbows on 02 December 2017, 04:21:13 PM: May I suggest a small change to how you're looking at it?

Since becoming quite poor recently I've restricted all of my hobby purchases to PayPal only --- and not linked to a credit card. This means I can buy things, but only if I've generated PayPal by selling other things. This may not help reduce your stack quite as effectively, but my PayPal balance is my "hobby" money...and that's it. I let my old hobby stuff support my new hobby stuff.

It's probably not what you're looking for, but it's a way to keep all of my "hobby" money in one place and that's all I can spend.
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: LeadAsbestos on 02 December 2017, 04:28:03 PM: I use the same tactic. Hobby money circulates, sell then buy, and very little new $$ goes in. I'm working on concentrating on a few big projects and have been avoiding any completely new projects.

It is hard as hell to pass on Gangs of Rome, but i think I've managed!
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: Kommando_J on 02 December 2017, 05:18:25 PM: I do the same, any money going into the hobby comes from a paypal account I only fill by selling older stuff, a sort of ''fun fund''.
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: jambo1 on 02 December 2017, 05:33:53 PM: Yep same for me, selling stuff I don't want lets me buy stuff I do, not really putting much other money to the hobby other than the stuff I get from selling. :)
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: Noverre Man on 02 December 2017, 06:03:12 PM: All good suggestions, perhaps use us as fellow addicts weaning/support buddies.
You can only buy something if you can justify it to us.
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: Orctrader on 02 December 2017, 06:45:12 PM: To resist buying anything, I'm told this works:

See something you want to buy on the internet or in a shop. Take the details but don't buy it.

Look again after 48 hours. See if you still want it as much as when you first saw it? (Bearing in mind that during those two days you are likely to have seen many more things you want to buy.)

Also, how about a really low daily budget? 1£/€ You can't get anything for that. After a week, still only 7. Develop a saving-to-buy habit. After a month you have enough money to buy stuff, but you're on a budget, so once you spend that 30 £/€ you have nothing left... ;)
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: Cubs on 02 December 2017, 07:10:02 PM: Limit yourself to one thing per month ... and make it a small thing. One thing I noticed with myself is I get as excited about a single £5 figure I really like as I do about a £100 Kickstarter package.

12 extra figures per year is probably easier to handle.
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: Gabbi on 03 December 2017, 12:08:39 PM: I'm almost the same, but I am gradually improving. As the moment, I try and most of the time I'm able to not left half painted models in some box. I strive to complete models that I start painting. Besides this, I jump from game to game on a model completion basis.

What I managed to do up to now: try to focus both hobby time and money on the games I am currently playing. Don't buy and don't paint stuff for games I don't have games on a weekly basis.
It kinda of works. I manage to have most of my armies/fleets/warbands painted, and I usually avoid buying too many stuff. I occasionally sell stuff, but don't know how, I manage to buy more than I sell.

What I plan for the future: reduce games. Reduce buys. Try to "feel" what I already know by reason: I don't need all the stuff I own and buy, and I won't be able to make good use of all the stuff I already own in my whole lifespan. I currently play 3 systems with different persons/groups. So best case scenario, I play 3 times a week. It almost never happens. Most of the weeks I manage to play once, sometimes twice. This leaves LOTS of games and models in shelves, closet, drawers. Even worse: sometimes I buy stuff that I don't need but I think I want, only to find myself feeling compelled to assemble and paint it, while I'd like to dedicate myself to some other model (or entirely different activity). To the point that sometimes this hobby feels more like a second job. Based on this reasoning, I have just managed to avoid buying the new Necromunda box. A big win for me, as N is one of my all-time fav GW games. The reveal of the abhuman mercenary (40K beastmen? We're in the 80s again?) almost made me surrender, but as for now, I resisted.
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: Harry Faversham on 03 December 2017, 12:42:51 PM: There's only one certain solution and it's a tad drastic...
get both yer arms surgically removed!!!

:o
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: Gunbird on 03 December 2017, 08:45:07 PM: Thank you all for your helpful (and some not so much) comments.

*The tip most helpful for me (logically as it is) was the "Build what I'm playing right now", which would be Battlegroup, Black Ops and Gaslands, and which I will combine with "Finish what is half finished" from the same scale for the armies I need most.
*Money wise I will set aside 10 euros a week to pay for decals, barrels, paints etc and I have unsubscribed from all shops newsletters.
*Keep selling off everything that isn't of interest anymore.
*If temptation does set in, note it down and talk to my mates to kill the urge.

Again, thank you for all of your replies. I'm keen to make this work in 2018.
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: joroas on 03 December 2017, 08:59:20 PM: I am in the same boat and, I would bet, most of the folks are suffering, or have suffered in the past, from the shiny syndrome. It is quite pervasive and, if untreated, kills off interest in the hobby by the sheer scale of the task you have created. It is no surprise to see skirmish gaming on the rise! Write up your tasks for 2018 and put the rest out of sight! Take care and enjoy.
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: Onebigriver on 04 December 2017, 06:01:41 PM: Was watching "Hoarders" on CBS Reality yesterday. A bloke had too many toys and his family was sick of it. I caught myself thinking that I should have bought the diecast Rogue One At-Ats in Poundland on Friday. There may be no hope!

All I can suggest is stick to following threads that will inspire current projects and absorb as much inspiration from books, films etc at the same time.
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: Skyven on 04 December 2017, 06:10:25 PM: The best way I found was to have a joint bank account and shared credit cards. If the spouse knows what you are spending and doesn't like it you'll soon find out. My partner is an external conscience. :-)
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: joroas on 04 December 2017, 08:08:35 PM: Sadly, my wife encourages me to spend and can't understand when I won't go to shows or order stuff. It is an addiction, plain and simple!
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on 05 December 2017, 02:40:11 PM: I found a good solution to buying hobby stuff.

The rule is that you are not allowed to buy any figures, vehicles etc for one month.
This is simple to operate and incredibly effective at stopping impulse purchases.
If you want to buy something, you have to write it down with the date.
After one month, go back to your list and, only then, you can either buy it or cross it off the list.
You will actually find that in most cases, you no longer want the item.

This works for all sorts of tools, hobby and sports equipment.
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: joroas on 05 December 2017, 05:07:31 PM: I have a list of about £200 worth of stuff I WANT, but there is nothing that I currently NEED, so it will not be bought for some time! Paints, glues, etc are a different thing.
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: LeadAsbestos on 06 December 2017, 12:29:45 AM: Quote from: Mick_in_Switzerland on 05 December 2017, 02:40:11 PM
I found a good solution to buying hobby stuff.

The rule is that you are not allowed to buy any figures, vehicles etc for one month.
This is simple to operate and incredibly effective at stopping impulse purchases.
If you want to buy something, you have to write it down with the date.
After one month, go back to your list and, only then, you can either buy it or cross it off the list.
You will actually find that in most cases, you no longer want the item.

I will second this one! Once the Ohhh Shiny! passes, it really won't be missed...
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: joroas on 06 December 2017, 12:33:52 AM: I realised that, even after selling loads, I have 12 armies for Black Powder!!!!!! Worse, I forgot I had some of them.......
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: Gunbird on 06 December 2017, 01:06:01 AM: Thx guys, but I really don't want to make lists or tabs anymore of what I would want etc......I just want to make due with wat I have next year and be done with it (paints, tools, decals excluded of course). Buying kits/miniatures has been (and still is) an addiction to keep trying to make fresh new starts. The time has now come to finish.....and I mean this in the lightest of terms because no army is ever finished.... what I have in a playable state so I can actually game more.

Also, I have unsubcribed from a ton of FB groups and narrowed it down to just a few specifically related to what me and the guys play, and I'm also down to just 2 forums. All of that should go a long way to remove at least some of the Ooh shiney from areas not related to what we game but what would attract me.

Will it work? I dunno. I'm only (mostly) human after all. But buying stuff to quickly feel better is not the way to go, I want to get my fullfilment from finishing stuff like I did when I started this hobby 15+ years ago. Chasing after the next best thing just isn't worth it.
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: Gabbi on 06 December 2017, 07:59:43 AM: Depending on the commitment you have on the subject, you could give a read to Bauman's books. Recently discovered his works myself, so no worthy suggestions from me yet, but looks like something could help understande the urge for instant gratification in purchasing stuff.
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: joroas on 06 December 2017, 09:10:38 AM: My downfall was replacing my largely painted 15mm armies with 28mm Perry and Warlord plastic and metal armies which still sit unpainted........
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: Daeothar on 06 December 2017, 11:58:02 AM: I've been through a pretty rought financial patch in the past, and from that I've learned to budget myself really strictly.

Even today, now that I really have nothing to complain about when it comes to disposable income, I actually feel guilty when I exceed my self imposed monthly budget. And I actually find it invigorating to realize I've dodged another bullet by keeping myself to my budget.

In fact, during those days, I did all my weekly grocery shopping on my way home from work on Friday afternoon (usually being hungry), and when I was able to leave the store with just those items that were on my list, I could be proud of myself, having resisted the lure of stuff I didn't need (and usually couldn't afford anyway).

It's so easy to cave in to the shiny, but I've found that after about two years or so of mandatory frugality, the lure of the new has decreased dramatically.

Nowadays, I basically only buy for the projects I have running. They may be dormant for years, but when I see a good deal, I will pick it up, even if I won't be getting to it for years. But this always makes me ask myself 'is this required for the project?' first.

This sounds exactly opposite to what you're after, but hear me out ;) I almost never buy anything new! Basically, I am a hobby vulture, preying on all those impulse buys that get thrown back out into the market, often at vastly reduced prices. That does mean that my projects get fed only piecemeal, as I never know when something will pop up, but the thrill of the hunt and find have rewards all of their own...

So I avoid stores (it helps that there is only a small GW in my city, and no other hobby stores at all). This includes webstores by the way, and I get my kicks on Marktplaats and LAF.

I've found that buying 2nd hand miniatures does nothing to diminish their value as paintable and playable items; they're just (vastly) cheaper. And by making sure that I only buy what I will (eventually) use, I also greatly reduce the amount of shiny I will allow myself, while still scratching that capitalist-consumer itch.

This means that even though my collection has also reached an impressive volume over the years, there is very little chaff so to speak. I only have very few miniatures that I know I won't be using, and those get sold off.

Also, I still allow myself to go to Crisis and Poldercon each year, but I only carry cash to pay for my purchases, and that cash usually gets saved up over the year (all proceedings from my birthday go into this fund for instance).

The suggestion to only use Paypal for purchases is a good one btw: it eliminates AliExpress and brick stores, and you can tightly budget yourself as well.

Good luck on this venture; I've seen many who struggle with this challenge (I've been guilty of falling off the wagon myself too ;) ). I suppose I can look back myself on my misfortune back in the day and take the additional self-restraint as a big positive that has come out of it...
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: N.C.S.E on 06 December 2017, 12:48:18 PM: Quote from: Daeothar on 06 December 2017, 11:58:02 AM

I've found that buying 2nd hand miniatures does nothing to diminish their value as paintable and playable items; they're just (vastly) cheaper. And by making sure that I only buy what I will (eventually) use, I also greatly reduce the amount of shiny I will allow myself, while still scratching that capitalist-consumer itch.

Seconding this. Wargaming purchases are a great luxury for me so I always try to look around for great and second hand deals first. My only GW purchase in a decade was when I got a hold of some rather rare (and hideously expensive) imperial guard figures for a steal.

The suggestion of keeping a list (and given the season - checking it twice) is a terrific one and I'll definitely be stealing that!
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: Duncan McDane on 06 December 2017, 04:01:29 PM: As a fellow ~~hoarder~~ collector I have to wish you good luck. ;)
The only - sound - advice I can give you is don't buy under pressure, because "it's a sale, it's a kickstarter, black friday, I have the other books/kits/games/models in that range too and blablabla", just let it go. It will turn up 2nd hand sooner or later, when you actually can afford it ( be it moneywise, roomwise or projectwise ). So many great new things will turn up on a daily base, it's impossible to back/buy them all, let alone paint/game with them. Sure, you'll feel initially regret by missing it but in the end 99,9% chance you won't miss it. And even if you do, there's always the 2nd hand market.
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: Predatorpt on 06 December 2017, 04:53:30 PM: Quote from: Duncan McDane on 06 December 2017, 04:01:29 PM
As a fellow ~~hoarder~~ collector I have to wish you good luck. ;)
The only - sound - advice I can give you is don't buy under pressure, because "it's a sale, it's a kickstarter, black friday, I have the other books/kits/games/models in that range too and blablabla", just let it go. It will turn up 2nd hand sooner or later, when you actually can afford it ( be it moneywise, roomwise or projectwise ). So many great new things will turn up on a daily base, it's impossible to back/buy them all, let alone paint/game with them. Sure, you'll feel initially regret by missing it but in the end 99,9% chance you won't miss it. And even if you do, there's always the 2nd hand market.

Yeah, this is great advice and what I'm trying to do - stay away from temptation, from the "Ooh shiney" factor.

Gunbird - your idea about just putting aside some money to buy decals, etc. seems to be right step. But even that should have a limit. Just buy for the projects you can finish and are related to what your gaming right now (Battlegroup, Black Ops and Gaslands).

Maybe do a big sale at the start of the year, of all the stuff you won't be needing in the near future and put that money aside.

PS - did you buy a big lot of Leman Russ track guards in a FB group two weeks ago? If it was you and you don't need them, I can take them out of your hands ;D
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: DS615 on 06 December 2017, 08:30:04 PM: I had a Daughter two years ago.
That had pretty much the effect you're looking for.
:)
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: Gunbird on 06 December 2017, 08:36:51 PM: Quote from: DS615 on 06 December 2017, 08:30:04 PM
I had a Daughter two years ago.
That had pretty much the effect you're looking for.
:)

I had identical twins 4 years ago, and that effect only lasted 2 years :) (and no, we are not getting more kids just to make sure I don't spend any money!)
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: Oldben1 on 06 December 2017, 09:24:20 PM: I read your blog regularly and love it.
My father died 2 years ago and was an unbelievable hoarder. It took me 6 months to clean out his basement and his garage. It affected me so much I sold as much as I could and gave the rest of it away. After I was finished, I dumped a lot of my own stuff as well and even switched to a smaller scale. I gave away half of my Dad's stuff. He was a blacksmith and a lot it was valuable. Hanging on to all of it was exhausting. I ended up donating it to a local charity.

I have found that with modelling, sometimes creating the 'world' is better than playing an actual game of it. Problem solving is fun. I think a lot of the joy is the craft itself. When I sell stuff or give it away I recognize I enjoy building terrain more than displaying it or even using it. Building gives you pleasure, not the thing itself. Sometimes even researching the damn thing is fun too. I would sell a ton and donate too. You'll never get what you paid for it. If your wife doesn't appreciate the hobby (mine doesn't but who would?), than she'll appreciate you getting rid of stuff. How many tank models will you actually build anyways? You'll feel better by cleaning out your space. The 'stuff' has a weight. Figuratively and literally. The hassle of selling it will be hard too.

What about teaching some of your techniques to local gamers? Maybe you could sell as much as you can and give some away.

Anyways . . .
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: Chuckaroobob on 10 December 2017, 01:50:25 AM: The only method to stop purchasing that worked for me was lose a good job, get a crappy one, and be too poor to buy anything.
Might not be a great way, but it's dang effective!
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: FramFramson on 10 December 2017, 07:59:36 PM: Quote from: Chuckaroobob on 10 December 2017, 01:50:25 AM
The only method to stop purchasing that worked for me was lose a good job, get a crappy one, and be too poor to buy anything.
Might not be a great way, but it's dang effective!
Haha, I hear that! Cured me of my comic book buying entirely, I might add.
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: HerbyF on 13 December 2017, 05:23:58 AM: Just have kids. After you have a couple of toddlers eating up all of your money, you won't have anything left over to spend on new toys. :D ;D lol
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: stone-cold-lead on 13 December 2017, 10:55:08 AM: Stop browsing the net. It's the worst thing for impulse purchases. Don't browse retailers sites, avoid idle Ebay searches and if you get an idea for a new project no matter how small don't take it further than a few minutes thought. Also, stop looking at other people's stuff. Taking a step back and not bothering to check up on FB groups or forums really does help to narrow your focus down to your own projects without getting all sidetracked and tempted by other stuff.
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: LeadAsbestos on 13 December 2017, 02:11:08 PM: Quote from: stone-cold-lead on 13 December 2017, 10:55:08 AM
Stop browsing the net. It's the worst thing for impulse purchases. Don't browse retailers sites, avoid idle Ebay searches and if you get an idea for a new project no matter how small don't take it further than a few minutes thought. Also, stop looking at other people's stuff. Taking a step back and not bothering to check up on FB groups or forums really does help to narrow your focus down to your own projects without getting all sidetracked and tempted by other stuff.

Agreed! This is the only effective method. Being inspired by someone else's project is the problem 90% of the time, movies, books, TV the other 10. A little sad and isolationist, but it does the trick! ;)
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: fusilierdan on 14 December 2017, 01:24:27 AM: I won't say it was 100% effective but I joined " The Pledge" on TMP. The premis is that you will paint more figures than you buy. It's tracked each month. The first few years I tended to break even but this year I'm well ahead of purchases.

Also picking projects in the begining of the year based on what you have and will play helps keep focus. An example last year I decided I wanted to learn how to play Mad Dogs with Guns, I had the rules, some figures and three buildings. I asked for a few buildings for Christmas. For two months this is what I worked on 90% of the time. I built the new buildings plus three others I already owned. I painted the twelve figures I had and bought several cars ( so far only one is painted). By March we were able to play a game with what I had. I still need to finish the cars and would like to add a few NPC and scatter terrain but the project had been just collecting dust for 10 years and now is playable.

Another thing if a friend has both armies for a game there's not really a reason for you to build a duplicate army.

As in any project it's best to break it down into smaller segments set goals for the small segment and achieve them.
If the goal is to paint what you have then each month you must paint something and not buy anything. If you slip up and buy something (or are gifted it) you must paint that in addition to what was already on the schedule. Keeping in mind it's a hobby and is supposed to be fun ;)
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: JamesValentine on 18 December 2017, 11:25:23 AM: not buying anything is an unrealistic goal for us. you need to be smart is all.
consider purchases more closely and decide "do I really need it?"
lets face it your ARE going to spot something you want and treating yourself is no great crime.
S.M.A.R.T
Specific, Measurable, Attainable, Relevant and Timely.
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: joroas on 18 December 2017, 07:32:52 PM: Yes, there is a major difference between want and need!

I am working on a 5 year plan to complete all of the stuff that I have accumulated and hasn't been sold off. It will be quite intense and require little buying on my part......
Title: Re: I don't want to buy any new models/kits in 2018 - but how?
Post by: Hobgoblin on 20 December 2017, 11:20:06 AM: I was listening to this podcast (https://www.samharris.org/podcast/item/is-buddhism-true)last night; one of the things it touched upon is the behavioural bias by which we value future acquisitions more than the pleasure than they produce. This, apparently, is a by-product of evolution: we have been selected to value goods yet to be acquired so that we don't starve or fail to reproduce or whatever. But it has unfortunate side-effects ...