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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: Bloodaxe on December 10, 2017, 08:11:36 AM
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Any ideas for alternative Spyrers? Originals are outrageous on Ebay. I gave my gang away long ago.
I was told Infinity was a good place to start, but I'm not familiar with that game or if the figures are still available.
Thanks.
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Could you refresh our (my) memories of the Spyrers?
I think there were four, the only one that sticks in my mind was the one that at one point had twin power fists that upgraded to claws. You might be able to put one together from GW bits.
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http://www.solegends.com/citcat2006us/c2006usp0945-02.htm
I think if I was doing some it would involve eldar bits/dark eldar scourge wings??
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Use Horrorclix Predators - their different weapons and gear (even without minor conversions) can represent all gear featured in the OUTLANDERS sourcebook! ;)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rj6LUyRElDk/Ty_mTPecGwI/AAAAAAAACxk/u03pkH8zMx8/s1600/AvP+3.JPG)
They're very nice plastic sculpts that are easy to convert and can look awesome with the right paint job!
And it makes more sense to use the original Predators than the unimaginative GW rip-off! :D
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There were four. A lightly armoured one with a power sword (Jakara), a winged one with a pistol (Yeld), a clawed one (Malcadon) and a hulking power-armoured one (Orrus).
The Jakara and the Orrus should be easy. Power armour and power swords are not uncommon in Scifi figures. See the Infinity Haramaki for example. Ko Dali from Infinity is a perfect Yeld. I have not come up with a Malcadon yet.
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I have not come up with a Malcadon yet.
Really? lol
(http://www.displacedminiatures.com/resize.php?img=/images/144200612472750Spyer05.jpg&h=1000&w=1000)(http://940ee6dce6677fa01d25-0f55c9129972ac85d6b1f4e703468e6b.r99.cf2.rackcdn.com/products/pictures/169340.jpg)
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Yes the space pixies would definitely work for a number of them.
For the Orrus, the Anvil Industries Mega Powered Punchy Fists might help.
http://anvilindustry.co.uk/The-Armoury/Close-Combat-Weapons/Punchy-Fists (http://anvilindustry.co.uk/The-Armoury/Close-Combat-Weapons/Punchy-Fists)
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There were four. A lightly armoured one with a power sword (Jakara), a winged one with a pistol (Yeld), a clawed one (Malcadon) and a hulking power-armoured one (Orrus).
The Jakara and the Orrus should be easy. Power armour and power swords are not uncommon in Scifi figures. See the Infinity Haramaki for example. Ko Dali from Infinity is a perfect Yeld. I have not come up with a Malcadon yet.
Damn, Ko Dali is indeed great for a Yeld!
(http://cdn.paizo.com/image/product/catalog/CVB/CVB280654.jpg)
Any more stand in ideas from Infinity?
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Maybe a browse through the Gates of Antares ranges from Warlord might help too. The Isorians in particular have some of the weird alien tech feel that the old Spyrers had, although you'll probably need to do conversions to get specific weapons.
Alternately, you could just wait for the new ones to be released. Necromunda's supposedly doing quite well, and there's a good chance we'll see updated versions of all the Outlander crews eventually. Of course, their prices will still be outrageous when new... :)
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Really? lol
(http://www.displacedminiatures.com/resize.php?img=/images/144200612472750Spyer05.jpg&h=1000&w=1000)(http://940ee6dce6677fa01d25-0f55c9129972ac85d6b1f4e703468e6b.r99.cf2.rackcdn.com/products/pictures/169340.jpg)
It's too much a Predator to me....
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It's too much a Predator to me....
lol lol lol
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lol lol lol
Well that and the Predator is about twice the size of a Malcadon. I have both.
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A quick breakdown on Spyrers.
Rich guys in combat suits.
Orrus- big guy heavy armor, two powerfists
Jakara- chick with shield and powersword
Malcadon- stealthy climbing clawed guy
Yeld- winged with lasers on arms
Keep the ideas coming.
Im surprised there have not been knock-offs. I wonder if they will be remade for the new Necromunda.
Thanks.
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I wonder if they will be remade for the new Necromunda.
They should be, because they're really FUN to play with! :D
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They should be, because they're really FUN to play with! :D
Absolutely!
4 or 5 guys to paint. No converting weapon changes/upgrades. Good stuff.
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There were four standard suit types, two variant sculpts of each. Plus the later Patriarch and Matriarch.
Also, the Tau codex had some interesting words in a vocabulary section:
J'karra = Mirror
Mal'caor = Spider
Or'es = Powerful
Y'eldi = Winged One
The fandom consensus is that Spyrer rigs are 'offworld' but not actually supplied by the Tau.
Starting with a Tau base model could be interesting though.
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I wouldn't be bothered about not being able to get the old Spyrer models. They were far from the best.
The plastic assassins might be a good base, but might set you back a bit.
The Yeld's were always my favourites of the bunch. For those that don't know what they look like:
(http://www.solegends.com/citcat2006us/c2006usp0945-01.jpg)
I would start by having a look through the old void and urban war miniatures at Scotia Grendel. There are possible stand ins from different factions.
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I would start by having a look through the old void and urban war miniatures at Scotia Grendel. There are possible stand ins from different factions.
I hadn't though of that, good suggestion- there might be some 'close enough' models in that range. I feel like there was a dual fist 'Orrus-like' Androsynth and VASA had some winged ladies that could work for Yeld.
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Jakara:
(http://www.shop.hint-thegame.com/userdata/gfx/6b089ac11ffc611293fe8b6b0eca7014.jpg)
http://www.shop.hint-thegame.com/en_US/p/AI-Human-Hybrid-Form-04/95
Yeld, if you give him a jetpack:
(http://www.shop.hint-thegame.com/userdata/gfx/57d9ae2418b49a7f3bcf0c8787272445.jpg)
Orrus:
(http://www.shop.hint-thegame.com/userdata/gfx/812a3c9c61f307bd2d86a850e865c5ce.jpg)
http://www.shop.hint-thegame.com/en_US/p/AI-Human-Hybrid-Forms/78
Malcadon:
(http://paintoholic.nl/images/cyborghunter.jpg)
http://www.shop.hint-thegame.com/en_US/p/Cyborg-Hunter/87
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Thanks mcfonz, I chucked all my WD except the ones in binders and the rulebooks are "somewhere".
Anyone checked Puppetswar for candidates?
Maybe Anvil can be distracted from their moderns?
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They should be, because they're really FUN to play with! :D
Fun to play against, too. Everybody I knew* that ran them had one killed in the first two games and ragequit the campaign because they didn't want to play supermen in a gang gimped by the early loss of a quarter of their firepower.
* Okay, so that's a total of three. Still, it was always fun to watch their faces when they realized that all those power boosts were far more balanced by the campaign rules than they thought.
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Check out the Urban wars and Void 1.1 lines over at Scotia Grendel they go really well with the older GW look.
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Copplestone has 'alien hunters' that might be a start for conversions. Perhaps Pig Iron productions might be worth a look? There may be something suitable from Hasslefree miniatures too? Perhaps power armoured Libby?
This might be good too? http://moonrakerminiatures.com/cyborgs.htm (http://moonrakerminiatures.com/cyborgs.htm)
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I chucked all my WD
:-(
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If you're after something that reasonably resembles the original four suit types, I think you're still looking at a spend of about £6-7 each on average. If you buy plastic GW bits from eBay, a bits-seller, or you or a friend have some left-overs, then here are some suggestions:
Orrus
- Tau Stealth suit body
- Space Marine Terminator legs
- Space Marine Terminator Lightning claws
- Space Marine Scout head
This is pretty self-explanatory, for the most part. If you cut the claws off the arms, what's left looks like a bolt launchers on the back of the power fists, especially if you use a small drill to drill out a row of little holes.
Malcadon
- Dark Eldar Kabalite Warrior body and legs
- Dark Eldar Wych arms with claws
- Dark Eldar Wych, Hellion, or Jetbike head (the blank-faceplate ones look good, but the half-masks are nice too)
Again, pretty self-explanatory. This looks more convincing if you add some greenstuff or wire cables from the claws, and you can also use the Orrus claws you snipped off to make the Malcadon's bigger if you wish.
Yeld
- Dark Eldar Scourge or Eldar Swooping Hawk
These are pretty much good as-is. I would go for the Scourge personally, but use some smaller wings (perhaps from a Swooping Hawk). I don't think that holding a rifle rather than having guns built into the gauntlets is a big issue either, but you could look at using some Eldar Dire Avenger Exarch arms if you prefer the style - just cut the ammo clips off and connect the guns back to the rear of the model with some wire/greenstuff cables.
Jakara
- Dark Eldar Wych, plastic Eldar Dire Avenger Exarch, or Eldar Howling Banshee
These are again pretty much good to go as-is, although a head-swap will help sell the model better as Jakara.
The plastic Dire Avenger Exarch has a sword and a shield arm options that are basically perfect, and this would be my choice. The arms are easy to find, so you could also just use an Eldar Guardian body and the Exarch arms as a cheaper alternative.
Of course, this is using GW plastic models, and is intended to give you a recognisable analogue to the old models. If you are happy to just use a straight counts-as, then you can also be quite imaginative:
- Eldar Aspect Warriors can be used pretty much as-is, with only the Orrus requiring a less perfect fit (Striking Scorpion Exarch with power fist and shuriken pistol probably).
- Dark Eldar Gladiator/Wych cult again can be used as-is apart from the Orrus.
- Harlequins (plastic, so you could convert up a team easily enough)
- Tyranids (plastic, you could convert up a gaunt-based team easily enough)
- Necrons (plastic, you could convert up a team easily enough)
- Predator miniatures (lots of options here, whether Heroclix or Copplestone castings)
- Infinity miniatures (lots of options, but not especially cheap)
- Void or Urban War (some conversion may be required)
Ultimately I suppose it depends, on a few things: what's your spend limit, do you mind converting or kitbashing, do you want plastic or metal, do you mind counts-as, do you already have something suitable to use as a base?
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Warzone Resurrection has a few that might be useful.
Orrus -> Warzone -> Cybertronic -> Everassur and The Immortal
https://www.miniaturemarket.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/p/i/pic101402_1.jpg
https://www.miniaturemarket.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/p/i/pic101403_1.jpg
Malcadon -> Warzone -> Imperial -> Golden Lions
https://www.miniaturemarket.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/p/i/pic101108_1.jpg
Yeld -> Warmachines -> Convergence of Cyriss -> Warcaster Aurora & Clock Work Angels
https://www.miniaturemarket.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/p/i/pip36001_2.jpg
https://www.miniaturemarket.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/p/i/pip36003_2.jpg
Jakara Warzone->. Cybertronic -> Pieter Diamond & Mirror Men
https://www.miniaturemarket.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/p/i/pic101412_1.jpg
https://www.miniaturemarket.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/p/i/pic101413_1.jpg