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Miniatures Adventure => Pikes, Muskets and Flouncy Shirts => Topic started by: RaFonaRaFona on April 19, 2009, 03:11:18 PM

Title: Need boats badly!
Post by: RaFonaRaFona on April 19, 2009, 03:11:18 PM
I am looking for boats for a DnD game I will be running.  They need to be the right size for 28mm minis.

Please help!!

Thanks,

RaFona
Title: Re: Need boats badly!
Post by: Lowtardog on April 19, 2009, 03:13:01 PM
What type of boats? pirate ships or otherwise
Title: Re: Need boats badly!
Post by: Mad Carew Snr on April 19, 2009, 03:21:00 PM
If you go to http://www.zeitcom.com/majgen/50ship.html you can make your own very cheaply
Title: Re: Need boats badly!
Post by: RaFonaRaFona on April 19, 2009, 03:45:35 PM
I'm looking for merchant vessels and pirates.

Also, if anyone knows a company that make "cargo" (barrels, sacks, feed sack looking things, carpets, anything) that info would be great too.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Need boats badly!
Post by: Neotacha on April 19, 2009, 04:07:27 PM
Boats?  Old Glory does some extruded foam that are light-weight, as well as somewhat heavier resin.  The resin ones are multiple levels that stack, so you could do things on different parts of the ship (in the hold or on deck).  They also cost a baby fortune, but do paint up well.

For cargo, gosh, plenty of people do some crates and barrels.  There's the Ainsty line, now distributed by Old Crow http://www.oldcrowmodels.co.uk/ or you can order some of the dungeon dressing stuff from Dwarven Forge, although they are apparently out of stock at the moment.  Wargames Foundry has lots of trade goods in their Darkest Africa Line.  Miniature Building Authority sells crates and barrels.  There are others, I'm just not dredging them up off the top of my head at the moment.

You could make your own using Hirst Arts moulds, or go to a hobby shop that carries doll house accessories or the cutsie-pie things for making those disgustingly adorable shadowboxes and find plenty of things that will serve.  Look in the beads for appropriately shaped beads.  You might also consider doll house rugs rolled up for your carpets.
Title: Re: Need boats badly!
Post by: RaFonaRaFona on April 19, 2009, 04:47:48 PM
Great help!

I liked the Old Glory.  You were right, the ones that are in multiple layers are waaay too expensive.

Does anyone else know of multi-level merchant and/or pirate ships for 28mm?

I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but I have been looking forever with no luck.

Speaking of dead horses...anyone know where I can get a dead horse mini?

Again thanks for the help.  Everyone here is cool.  I'm glad I stummbled onto the site.
Title: Re: Need boats badly!
Post by: Will Bailie on April 19, 2009, 05:20:08 PM
Flagship Games has some nice ships and other goodies:
http://www.flagshipgames.com/catalog-pirates.htm

They are a bit stylized to make them easier for gaming, and as they are resin they are a bit pricey. 

Eureka Miniatures has some ships as well
http://eurekamin.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=87_126_170&products_id=2048

The alternative is to make them yourself.  It's quite easy with layers of foamcore, plus dowel for masts and much, much cheaper than buying them!  The Gary Chalk plans are good for this, assuming that you can still find them.

Oooo - here's a nifty looking one - and paper, too, so it's cheap as!
http://worldworksgames.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6&products_id=27

Title: Re: Need boats badly!
Post by: fastolfrus on April 19, 2009, 07:43:36 PM
You can sometimes find quite good crates etc here :

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/pmc_games

He hasn't got any listed at the moment. but you could always email him.

He does quite reasonable buildings - good quality and fair price.


As for multi-deck boats, how about making some simple improvised ones by cutting decks from foam and stacking them on top of each other ? You can glue a deck plan to each layer to make life simple.
We did some a few years ago using ? inch plywood, but nailed them together to make solid-hull pirate ships (we weren't bothered about the lower decks)
Title: Re: Need boats badly!
Post by: uti long smile on April 19, 2009, 07:53:11 PM
I've got one PMC boat... it's OK... but not great.

Resin base and balsa sides, so a bit flimsy. Their buildings (and crates if you need them) are great though - I've loads :)
Title: Re: Need boats badly!
Post by: Dewbakuk on April 19, 2009, 08:44:03 PM
For barrels and crates I was actually quite impressed by the Pegasus ones. They come already painted and you get plenty of barrels for the ?8 the pack cost.

http://thehobbybox.biz/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=16&products_id=135&zenid=c48746976e6faf7ae7b301dedfc93029
Title: Re: Need boats badly!
Post by: cianty on April 19, 2009, 09:01:38 PM
I made this list of available tabletop ships. Maybe you find something useful..
http://cianty-tabletop.blogspot.com/2008/10/setting-sail-collecting-ships-for.html
Title: Re: Need boats badly!
Post by: RaFonaRaFona on April 19, 2009, 10:31:06 PM
Thanks everyone...you have all been a big help.  Anyone that wants to continue the suggestions, I will be more than happy to look where I'm led.

Thanks again.  Now its time to start another post looking for other things I've been having a hard time finding.

RaFona
Title: Re: Need boats badly!
Post by: Poiter50 on April 21, 2009, 01:24:01 AM
Flogging dead horses? MegaMinis have a Zebra that is the victim/subject of a Lion hunt, it is available as a bare metal single piece and would look OK for a horse when painted right.

 
Great help!

I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but I have been looking forever with no luck.

Speaking of dead horses...anyone know where I can get a dead horse mini?

Again thanks for the help.  Everyone here is cool.  I'm glad I stummbled onto the site.
Title: Re: Need boats badly!
Post by: richarDISNEY on April 21, 2009, 02:53:51 PM
As for crates , boxes and barrels, try www.wartornworlds.com.  Cheap, and almost indestructible.  Plus, they look about the right scale.
Title: Re: Need boats badly!
Post by: gamer Mac on April 21, 2009, 03:13:48 PM
Have you thought about making your own boats. I made a couple of pirate ships from some templates out of wargames Illustrated. They were quite easy to make. Only they weren't multi-level. I don't know which edition of the magazine it was in but I will have a look. Will post a picture of the ship as well if you are interested.
I used to run a Spell jammer Campaign which had loads of ships. We just used floor plans for the interiors. Loads of which you can find on the web.
Title: Re: Need boats badly!
Post by: Baggins Wood on April 21, 2009, 03:38:20 PM
Hi RaFonaRaFona, Ciantys list is excellent. In another thread here "Matters Nautical" I've put a fairly mediocre (I was making up some quick ships for a game) photo or two of the Gary Chalk brigantine that gamer Mac mentions - and also a ship made from a cheap toy that (with a little persuasion) splits into two cross sections. That's how I put in the cannon and curtains. It would also allow for a Captain's Cabin and Gun deck, and the deck cargo grating on the toy opens to the interior. It was for sale in the UK about six months ago in all cheap toy shops round these parts as a Pirate Playset. I will try and post up some pictures of the original and dismembered versions. It needs a bit of conversion work. Only proviso is that it's more suited to the Major General's "place holder" idea of scales - i.e. although 28mm scale it's only a foot long.
Title: Re: Need boats badly!
Post by: dodge on April 21, 2009, 03:47:24 PM
I have pegasus barrels , great  :-* ready painted

I have Aisnty/ old crow trade goods , great  :-* but you need to paint yourself

sorry can't help on the boats but I would possibly try and make my own if available from the link above.

dodge
Title: Re: Need boats badly!
Post by: Malamute on April 21, 2009, 04:20:55 PM
For a mixture of different size pirate boats there's always minimi models:
http://minimi.co.uk/pirates/
Title: Re: Need boats badly!
Post by: Poiter50 on April 24, 2009, 03:18:48 AM
Knuckleduster make a pack of 2 wounded horses, complete with saddle & saddle bags.
Great help!

I liked the Old Glory.  You were right, the ones that are in multiple layers are waaay too expensive.

Does anyone else know of multi-level merchant and/or pirate ships for 28mm?

I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but I have been looking forever with no luck.

Speaking of dead horses...anyone know where I can get a dead horse mini?

Again thanks for the help.  Everyone here is cool.  I'm glad I stummbled onto the site.
Title: Re: Need boats badly!
Post by: Black Cat Bases on May 20, 2009, 06:39:53 PM
We do alot of barrels etc in various sizes http://www.blackcatbases.com/prodtype.asp?strParents=&CAT_ID=100&numRecordPosition=1. We also do ships http://www.blackcatbases.com/product.asp?strPageHistory=category&numSearchStartRecord=0&strParents=99&CAT_ID=99&P_ID=580&btnProduct=Products... and our pirate ship will be on general release very soon! http://www.blackcatbases.com/page.asp?id=workbench

Jo:)
Title: Re: Need boats badly!
Post by: Wirelizard on May 20, 2009, 07:58:52 PM
We do alot of barrels etc in various sizes http://www.blackcatbases.com/prodtype.asp?strParents=&CAT_ID=100&numRecordPosition=1.

Erm... on the page linked to above with individual barrels, you say "...if you are looking for Barrel groups please see the small scenery section.".

Where is that? I don't see a "Small Scenery" link down the left-hand column anywhere, and a quick rummage through some of the links that look like they might be relevant doesn't show any barrel groups.

I know keeping a growing website organized can be tough (been there, done that) but I've noticed oddities like this elsewhere on the Black Cat website as well.

Best thing to do is add a direct link from that individual barrel page right to the grouped barrel page! Make it easier to take our money, you know you want it!  :)