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Title: ROUND 1 Gro?artige Helden des Drittes Reiches vs Sturmgruppe Wotan
Post by: Captain Blood on 20 April 2009, 12:11:30 AM
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Title: Re: Gro?artige Helden des Drittes Reiches: X-Brandenburg vs Sturmgruppe Wotan
Post by: Heldrak on 20 April 2009, 12:46:17 AM
Yowsa!  :o
Title: Re: Gro?artige Helden des Drittes Reiches: X-Brandenburg vs Sturmgruppe Wotan
Post by: Vanvlak on 20 April 2009, 06:40:55 AM
Good grief! fantastic work.
The really disturbing thing is that I know someone who's the twin of the cigar-chomping chap!  :o
Title: Re: Gro?artige Helden des Drittes Reiches: X-Brandenburg vs Sturmgruppe Wotan
Post by: Hammers on 20 April 2009, 07:51:59 AM
@Westfalia Chris and Driscoles: thanks for the help. Dr. Mabuse has unfortunately been institutionalized (long overdo) and Herr Krautkopf is missing after a dust up in Rotterdam with Union Jack.
Title: Re: Gro?artige Helden des Drittes Reiches: X-Brandenburg vs Sturmgruppe Wotan
Post by: Malebolgia on 20 April 2009, 09:53:36 AM
Absolutely love both of them. While the second one is probably the best painted entry of this round, I love the first entry more. The miniatures of the second one just doesn't match too well IMO. Absolutely stunning painting though.
In the end I voted for the first one as it has so many cool and different elements. It's like the cast of a really cool pulp/weird war movie in one shot. Top job.
Title: Re: Gro?artige Helden des Drittes Reiches: X-Brandenburg vs Sturmgruppe Wotan
Post by: argsilverson on 20 April 2009, 10:39:01 AM
Both are good.

2nd looks better, but I do not like the minis!
Title: Re: Gro?artige Helden des Drittes Reiches: X-Brandenburg vs Sturmgruppe Wotan
Post by: Mr.J on 20 April 2009, 11:00:46 AM
Who makes the kaiser miniature in the second?
Title: Re: Gro?artige Helden des Drittes Reiches: X-Brandenburg vs Sturmgruppe Wotan
Post by: gamer Mac on 20 April 2009, 11:03:32 AM
I much prefer the second one great figures, painting and I think they make a good group.
My problem with the first picture is that they are not a group but individual figures even though nicely painted. I don't want to be to picky (I know everyone says this when they are going to be picky) but did the rules not state a single group photo. A single group photo would have brought the first group together better.
Title: Re: Gro?artige Helden des Drittes Reiches: X-Brandenburg vs Sturmgruppe Wotan
Post by: Plynkes on 20 April 2009, 11:18:49 AM
You are correct about the rules, Gamer Mac. I had to modify some of my plans when I saw the clause about that.

I pity the fool who runs into the painting Juggernaut that is El Almirante. Tough break there, Hammers.  :)
Title: Re: Gro?artige Helden des Drittes Reiches: X-Brandenburg vs Sturmgruppe Wotan
Post by: Admiral Benbow on 20 April 2009, 11:20:09 AM
Who makes the kaiser miniature in the second?

Well, it's not a Kaiser miniature at all, but it looks quite like him ... :D The mini came from the Foundry "German Staff" set from their Franko-Prussian range.

The Sturmgruppe miniatures are from Scibor's Miniatures; resin kits, much work to get them together, but such great characters ...

Title: Re: Gro?artige Helden des Drittes Reiches: X-Brandenburg vs Sturmgruppe Wotan
Post by: Pil on 20 April 2009, 11:34:38 AM
I voted for the second entry because I really had not seen anything like it, and also because the first entry was a collage of different pictures, which really spoiled the effect for me. The characters in the first entry do look good but they look too much like single models and might have worked better when posed as a group. The second pic is just top quality 8)
Title: Re: Gro?artige Helden des Drittes Reiches: X-Brandenburg vs Sturmgruppe Wotan
Post by: Ray Rivers on 20 April 2009, 12:23:15 PM
Master brushwork there Admiral!

The shading is absolutely fantastic.
Title: Re: Gro?artige Helden des Drittes Reiches: X-Brandenburg vs Sturmgruppe Wotan
Post by: Captain Blood on 20 April 2009, 12:43:44 PM
Yes, it's true to say that Hammers' entry is in contravention of the rules which state that there should be a group shot, to which some close-ups, different angles or individual shots can be added.

On the other hand, I know Hammers had some issues getting his entry together in time, and as the luck of the draw would have it, he's getting whupped anyway  lol
So I'm letting his entry stand as a one-off.

But yes please, all entries for future rounds should have a group shot at the core.
Title: Re: ROUND 1Gro?artige Helden des Drittes Reiches vs Sturmgruppe Wotan
Post by: Hammers on 20 April 2009, 02:41:20 PM
There are rules which should be read and understood? ;-)

I think Blood pitched me against Benbow just to punish me. Joking aside: if Alex is reading this, what is the purpose of the rule which prohibits composite pictures?
Title: Re: ROUND 1Gro?artige Helden des Drittes Reiches vs Sturmgruppe Wotan
Post by: Westfalia Chris on 20 April 2009, 04:00:17 PM
There are rules which should be read and understood? ;-)

I think Blood pitched me against Benbow just to punish me. Joking aside: if Alex is reading this, what is the purpose of the rule which prohibits composite pictures?

If I may answer this, IIRC, it is part of our "no thorough digital manipulation" rule. We deemed it a bit harder to do some "corrections" in a group shot with an environment. And vignettes just look better. Adding captions is ok, though.

To quote the respective paragraph:

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The entry picture may NOT be a collage of individual pictures, but should be a "group shot" of the complete team, possibly in a decorated environment, or in front of a plain backdrop. You may, however, add some closeups of small aspects, like faces, equipment, etc., but the main focus of the image must clearly be on "the team".
Title: Re: ROUND 1Gro?artige Helden des Drittes Reiches vs Sturmgruppe Wotan
Post by: D@rth J@ymZ on 20 April 2009, 04:07:16 PM
While I love seeing the Bob Murch Pulp Figures in ther first entry, the whole 'group shot' element did it for me.  I had the same problem when taking photos for my entry; although individual shots would have showcase the models much better, I felt a 'strange disturbance' that compelled me to submit only a group shot (Perhaps it was the 'Force')

This clarification will make photos for subsequent rounds much easier: (
the rules which state that there should be a group shot, to which some close-ups, different angles or individual shots can be added.

But yes please, all entries for future rounds should have a group shot at the core.

Aside from that small detail, choosing a winner in this one was a lot harder than I expected...great job to both
Title: Re: ROUND 1Gro?artige Helden des Drittes Reiches vs Sturmgruppe Wotan
Post by: Mancha on 20 April 2009, 06:32:42 PM
I have to add that my understanding is that there must be at least FIVE minis in an entry.  (Not that either of these entries violate that rule.)  While a vehicle counts as one of the five, I believe this is the only exception to the rule, right?
Title: Re: ROUND 1Gro?artige Helden des Drittes Reiches vs Sturmgruppe Wotan
Post by: Grimm on 20 April 2009, 06:45:46 PM
Dicke Berta !!!! lol lol lol hammers you are crazy .

Sturmgruppe Wotan ! that is not painting that is art .
fantastic .

Grimm
Title: Re: ROUND 1Gro?artige Helden des Drittes Reiches vs Sturmgruppe Wotan
Post by: Chairface on 20 April 2009, 06:47:56 PM
Hammers, who makes Lord Haw-Haw?
Title: Re: ROUND 1Gro?artige Helden des Drittes Reiches vs Sturmgruppe Wotan
Post by: Admiral Benbow on 20 April 2009, 06:55:26 PM
I think Blood pitched me against Benbow just to punish me.

NO, I'm pretty sure I'm not the Punisher ...  :D

I like your entry very much, Hammers, even without a group shot!  ;)
Title: Re: ROUND 1 Gro?artige Helden des Drittes Reiches vs Sturmgruppe Wotan
Post by: Bugsda on 20 April 2009, 07:40:56 PM
Outstanding paintwork Admiral, tough luck Hammers ;)
Title: Re: ROUND 1Gro?artige Helden des Drittes Reiches vs Sturmgruppe Wotan
Post by: Hammers on 20 April 2009, 07:42:20 PM
Hammers, who makes [wiki]Lord Haw-Haw[/wiki]?

It is a Copplestone, slightly converted, so is Dicke Berta ([wiki]Big Berta[/wiki]). DB has a SS-monogram on her ample chest but that's been pixeled out for the sake of decorum. Kondormann is Westwind and 'The Boys from Brazil' chap is Pulp Miniatures. Panzerfaust is Monolith.
Title: Re: ROUND 1 Gro?artige Helden des Drittes Reiches vs Sturmgruppe Wotan
Post by: Hitman on 20 April 2009, 09:28:56 PM
Lord Haw Haw is great as an individual figure, but the second group is amazing!!
Title: Re: ROUND 1 Gro?artige Helden des Drittes Reiches vs Sturmgruppe Wotan
Post by: demi_morgana on 21 April 2009, 06:57:23 AM
great to see more versions of painted Scibor's ogres :)
Title: Re: ROUND 1 Gro?artige Helden des Drittes Reiches vs Sturmgruppe Wotan
Post by: Driscoles on 21 April 2009, 09:29:19 AM
The Sturmgruppen are just awesome. The guy with the white t-shirt even has a zippo lighter. How cool is that ? This is really  a beautiful entry. I wish you can pamper our eyes every week with your ideas.

Hammers is good as well. Poop on the rules. Its a group shot you nags  :) Or isnt it a group of evil germans ?

Bj?rn
Title: Re: ROUND 1 Gro?artige Helden des Drittes Reiches vs Sturmgruppe Wotan
Post by: TodCreasey on 22 April 2009, 03:07:31 AM
Well Scibor just made another sale after that one - superb! Is the monogram on the shirt a transfer?

Tod
Title: Re: ROUND 1 Gro?artige Helden des Drittes Reiches vs Sturmgruppe Wotan
Post by: Admiral Benbow on 22 April 2009, 03:45:54 PM
Well Scibor just made another sale after that one - superb! Is the monogram on the shirt a transfer?
Tod

Indeed, Tod, a very old 1/72 scale decal from Airfix' german Schnellboot kit, worked into the creases of the shirt with Micro-Set and -Sol, and then slightly repainted as it was partly damaged.

Title: Re: ROUND 1 Gro?artige Helden des Drittes Reiches vs Sturmgruppe Wotan
Post by: G.ork on 23 April 2009, 07:54:00 PM
Great these Guys, want tosee them in Action  ;)