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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: Terrible Tim on 22 February 2007, 08:02:43 AM
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In the 80's, I big Car Wars fan. We played many games into the early hours of the morning. A few years back, I bought a latter printing of Car Wars and was keen to get back into it. Only Steve Jackson no longer supports this great system.
Does anyone know of a similar future car combat game in print today? I like the fact, that in CAr Wars you can build unique cars, trucks, bikes, buses etc and battle it out.
Any help would be appricated.
TT.
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I think CarWars is still in production from SJ, but suffered major changes in the last years:
http://sjgames.com/carwars/faq.html
Anyway, what's wrong with your old CarWars version, because you want another game?
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You can try Road Warriors, an extension for the free game No Limits
http://www.wargamesunlimited.com/nolimits/campaign/roadwarriors/index.html
Or else Gunbuggy, a Mad-Max-like expansion for Petrolhead
http://unbridledfury.net/nexus/index.php?option=com_docman&task=cat_view&gid=37&Itemid=42
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There are a range of systems out there from very simple to complex. A good overview with lots of links can be found here
http://www.serv.net/~owenmp/misc/altsys.html
Plus a few more:
http://mikesgamingpage.tripod.com/roadwarriors.html
http://www.wolfegames.com/AxlesAndAlloys/AxlesAndAlloys.htm
I've amended/added to the Combatzone rules to run a Mad Max tanker chase game which seemed to run OK but is very scenario specific.
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I made from the "Road Warriors" rules a pdf-file that prints nicely. It's a VERY basic system, good to introduce people in this type of game but gets boring soon.
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I'm just itchin' to get some gaming of this sort done. Thanks for all the useful info. Now I'll just steal Pappa Midnight's biker gamg ideas, and off I go! :roll:
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Anyway, what's wrong with your old CarWars version, because you want another game?
SJG is not really supporting Car Wars and has not since 2003 (according to their web site), there is a lot of fan sites with unoffical material.
I have found over the years, that if the people in my gaming club do not buy a game system themself or some of the gaming products, the game will die in a short time. Thats why I would like to see Car Wars products for sale again - it is a great game. People are not interested in playing a dead game, that they can not buy if they like it. IMO
TT.
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If everybody needs to have an own rulebook that's bad...
But it should be easy to make them buy some Matchbox cars and convert them to mean killing machines. 8)
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There was also a Constructable game called Racer Knights of Falconus
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/18696/racer-knights-of-falconus
It had some customization to it as well
Here's a pic comparing it to a WK Pirates ship
(http://images.boardgamegeek.com/images/pic103523_md.jpg)
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No ones mentioned that Axels and Alloys has just been updated ;D
Oh well....
http://axlesalloys2.blogspot.com/
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The old rules for "Dark Future" are also available for download from the Games Workshop site, although you still have to make the track, cars, etc. :P
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http://www.aberrantgames.com/warlands.html (http://www.aberrantgames.com/warlands.html)
Brand new game, (back end of last year) with stuff lined up to come out in the future. You buy a box with rules and cars in. I haven't bought it yet, but its only a matter of time!
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Ah, Car Wars. I played it a lot in high school, and spent even more time building cars and other vehicles with it.
It got rather silly, eventually - the rules grew to encompass everything from motorbikes to MBTs to supersonic fighter jets (oh, and zeppelins!). lol
I still have a big stack of CW 2nd Ed books and a big roll of maps, been meaning to FleaBay the lot for years now. CW Deluxe boxset with the blue rulebook, Uncle Al's Catalog From Hell, Chassis & Crossbow, several of the military vehicle supplements, lots of other bits and pieces. Anyone interested?
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I am going to the local game store in austin to play this sunday.Wirelizard I well ask anyone if they are looking fo book,I have all those myself.
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A great game I played it with matxhbox cars fro many years. Why don't you just give everyone in your group pdf's or print outs of the rules? Wouldn't that satisfy them?
Rob
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I need to give that a go myself. I thought the box just had the models in it, but the rules are included too. When I saw it, I first thought it was a brilliant looking kit for playing Car Wars. lol
http://www.aberrantgames.com/warlands.html (http://www.aberrantgames.com/warlands.html)
Brand new game, (back end of last year) with stuff lined up to come out in the future. You buy a box with rules and cars in. I haven't bought it yet, but its only a matter of time!
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I used to love that game back in the mid/late 80s, we played it at least once a week for quite some time.
Was anyone else ever stupid enough to use the Car Wars Tanks rules?
No, but we did try a bus with a tank gun out front and a tractor/trailer rig with the trailer loaded with as many linked heavy rockets as would fit! Bus lost control when it fired and rolled - the rocket rig shredded the first thing that it got a broadside on!
Pdfs are okay but I can sympathise with wanting to have the "proper" rulebook
vT
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Many many years ago I used to play Car Wars with some old buddies. We used a lot of Matchbox & Hotwheels modified with kit parts from HO/OO scale models. Don't know if I still have any of them around any more. Maybe packed away in a box in the basement. Just found an old toy pirate ship down there I forgot I had.
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http://www.aberrantgames.com/warlands.html (http://www.aberrantgames.com/warlands.html)
Brand new game, (back end of last year) with stuff lined up to come out in the future. You buy a box with rules and cars in. I haven't bought it yet, but its only a matter of time!
Warlands is great! :)
The new Quick Reference Guide (with more advanced rules than are currently in the Driver's Manual and Data Dump #6) will be out in free PDF format within the week. The two rsin cars - the Maxwell Interceptor (Mad Max's car) and Valiant are at Aberrant now awaiting the metal bits. They should be available for purchase via direct sales by the end of Feb.
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Some random info:
Wreckage : Fantasy Flight Games makes / made this (I got mine on e-Bay so I dunno). It's a tabletop game (no grid), fairly simple mechanics : the fluff is battling it out to get prizes in gasoline from spomsors..
Overdrive Arena: a german-developed game, but issued by Testor's (the paint people), now OOP but available on e-bay. A bit more complicated, with siimple but effective car-building rules.. and gaingn experience as drivers.
The box comes with two 1/43 cars, some paints, and a selection of weapons and armor. 1/43 works well with the 28mm Street Violence figs or Copplestones Future Wars, Combat Zone etc.
The fluff for this game is .. well.. join the "Motor Mayhem International" league.. Oh.. never mind.. you'll never use it.. but it does have rules for
forming teams..
JADA 1/64 Battle Machines: (I posted the following also on TMP..)
A Review of Jada 1/64 Battle Machines for use with Dark Future (GW),
Wreckage (Fantasy Flight) and Axles & Alloys.. or any Mad Max type game.
The cars are 1/64.. which runs a bit bigger than Hot Wheels.
Examples (from the first link)
The taxi in the bottom row middle runs
2" hub-to-hub, 3 1/4" overall
The truck in the bottom row right runs
2 1/2" hub-to-hub and 3 23/4" overall
for comparison, a Dark Future plastic Interceptor runs
1 9/16" hub-to-hub, 2 3/4" overall.
However, the Dark Future 20mm figures fit well with the Jada..
(but Stan Johansen says they fit well with true 25mm..)
All Jada cars are screwed together, not riveted, the guns are also screwed on.. so disassembly (and re-assembly..! is a snap. The car bodies are made of metal.. which is thicker (2x.>?) than Hot Wheels, and thus any gun-mount holes youo make
are deeper..(this is a good thing..:-) The guns and lover body and other parts
are polystyrene plastic.
The detail is good (the rivets are there, etc..) and the paint job is very good
(no shiny decals..!) .. Still, there are probably parts you'll want to custom paint. I haven't done anything extensive, but I tried acrylics on the taxi, without priming. Worked well.. so painting and weathering should present little problem.
I saw these on another TMP post, and ordered them. The are sporadically available at Wal-Mart, etc.. but I got excellent service at the link below:
http://www.collectablediecast.com/Set_of_12_Battle_Machines_1_64_Wave_1_p/ja12111-w1-12set.htm
Jada site:
http://jadaclub.com/index.php?cPath=394_395
Enjoy..
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Was anyone else ever stupid enough to use the Car Wars Tanks rules?
Erm, yeah, that'd be me. We started doing bigger and bigger (and sillier and sillier) CW Tanks battles, and then I discovered Dirtside II, said, "Damn, this is what we *should* be using to play future tank battles!" and was suddenly a miniatures gamer.
I spent far more time building vehicles and designing maps than I ever did actually playing Car Wars, though. I think most of us did, it was not an easy game to actually play...
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I highly recommend the Jada Battle Machines. They're awesome for all the reasons mentioned above and the guys who make them (Jada Toys) are great too. They're perfectly scaled to Warlands.
Speaking of Warlands, a new Quick Reference Guide was posted Tuesday as a free download at http://www.aberrantgames.com/downloads.html -> it gives you a good feel for the game.
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Here's a comparison of Jada to some other cars
(http://jptrostle.com/diecast_scale1.jpg)
Looking at the Jada site, they just plain have some nice 1:64 scale cars.
http://jadaclub.com/
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Just noticed this thread..........Hmmmm brings back memories.
I loved Car Wars and sill have some original sets floating around somewhere.
There was another game that came out for a short while called "KRASH" by Cell Entertainment. It was a simple car combat game with white metal 1:64 cars and loads of weapon load-outs ( which I have used for various conversions)
Anyhow,this thread kick-started my interest in auto-combat and I especially like the Jada cars. Any suppliers in the UK????
Regards
PM
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I especially like the Jada cars. Any suppliers in the UK????
I'm actually shipping some to DaneofWar.com for use with Warlands. I'm buying them at retail here and shipping them over. I would check WalMart and Target there in the UK.
BTW: Go to www.AberrantGames.com/warlands for new pix of our first two resin cars for Warlands! And the full PDF rules will be available for $9.99 (hopefully) by the end of the month.
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Now that I've gotten into 1:72 scale figures, I wanted to see if the folks at the local game store wanted to give it a go again. Having civies with guns on the board would make things a little more interesting, or at the very least extra points for running them over. lol
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Now that I've gotten into 1:72 scale figures, I wanted to see if the folks at the local game store wanted to give it a go again. Having civies with guns on the board would make things a little more interesting, or at the very least extra points for running them over. lol
Warlands has Pedestrians! :)
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Just noticed this thread..........Hmmmm brings back memories.
I loved Car Wars and sill have some original sets floating around somewhere.
There was another game that came out for a short while called "KRASH" by Cell Entertainment. It was a simple car combat game with white metal 1:64 cars and loads of weapon load-outs ( which I have used for various conversions)
Anyhow,this thread kick-started my interest in auto-combat and I especially like the Jada cars. Any suppliers in the UK????
Regards
PM
I got mine through Bungle over on Frothers PM so worth sending him a PM, PM. :D