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Title: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 8 (3d model)
Post by: traveller on 03 June 2018, 09:16:53 AM: I have had a soft spot for the late Crusades for a long time and when I saw the opening scenes from the HBO series Knightfall it tipped me over the edge. My plan is to create the scene of the dramatic escape at the Acre harbour during the last day of the siege. After that only the Templar and Teutonic Knight strongholds continued the resistance. First some images from the serie which was staged in the harbour of Dubrovnik i Croatia:
(https://s25.postimg.cc/p0myf6lu7/DE90608_E-_FED3-4_F27-9_F2_C-_AAA6_AFBB961_F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4t9imvocr/)
(https://s25.postimg.cc/ob4633ny7/D847_AAF9-_DA22-4066-8656-_B6_C85_C14_EAA5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/hknoto0sb/)
(https://s25.postimg.cc/uc1v06ia7/5_DD7_E692-_E327-4_FFF-8747-_DD04_AA7_C8_E20.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/kequ74aob/)
(https://s25.postimg.cc/5vjp5g21b/7_B6_DEBC1-76_A1-46_C8-_BB05-36_CDCE59_C2_DD.png) (https://postimg.cc/image/r57bgaibv/)
(https://s25.postimg.cc/43qqaj38v/11_D3087_C-72_B3-4087-9_A32-949_AC26478_FE.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/tmj2njmsr/)
(https://s25.postimg.cc/k1zg0nabj/EC6_A96_E9-_E138-4_E65-9060-_F605_CBE5_A94_B.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/y8f6vvl6j/)

There are a few images related to Acre in the Osprey books of which this one sparked my initial interest of the potential of a harbour setting:
(https://s25.postimg.cc/54qz012cf/03_C25177-816_B-45_A1-_BAA0-_FB2_BCAC96_DE4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/c7yufn7rv/)

Since a few years back I have disciplined myself to use a standard format for all terrain related to a skirmish setting. I built a simple frame sized 100x75 cm in which all terrain pieces must fit:
(https://s25.postimg.cc/9f5mvc4rz/1_AF74_CFA-_F7_D9-4_C52-9_F60-7994001_D2116.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/uot966l2j/)

In this I will use a thin mdf board for the water level on which I will build a stone harbour structure using floor insulation foam. The edge of the harbour will be lined with an old GW Mighty Fortress that I never used.

Starting with the foam:
(https://s25.postimg.cc/c98s8rz8f/9_D4_F9036-_ACC0-4_D36-8_F4_E-_A9894_A22290_A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fsupyl1y3/)

I used a modelling knife and an aol bayonet :D to carve up the stonework. Somewhere in this forum I stole the excellent idea of running a ballpen in the slit after the cut which widen the gap between the stones:
(https://s25.postimg.cc/sx0abdwlr/A6_D5_A05_E-6307-465_F-_BE3_D-501_CF031_DA05.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/pdeclktvv/)
(https://s25.postimg.cc/imxvc4jkv/0_E21_CF58-0_E98-4_EDA-866_F-_B8596_C396247.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/uot969st7/)
(https://s25.postimg.cc/zapdelywv/47_A6_A739-_B1_B2-434_B-879_F-30_C6448_B7701.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ruq3stb7f/)
(https://s25.postimg.cc/5isazfjtb/853_E0_F5_B-63_F8-43_D8-83_B9-_E2444_F279_C70.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/68b3bskcr/)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291
Post by: Bloodsbane on 03 June 2018, 09:26:04 AM: Very interesting project!

I couldn't stand those opening scenes of Knightfall dramaturgically, but it certainly makes for great scenario inspiration. Looking forward to see where this goes :)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291
Post by: Captain Harlock on 03 June 2018, 03:03:56 PM: Great start! Although I hated Knightfall. Helmet cam anyone? lol
You can make a ball out of crumbled tinfoil and roll it around, giving more random texture to the stones
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291
Post by: traveller on 03 June 2018, 03:38:05 PM: I agree about the quality of the series but for me the subject often take the upper hand when it comes to providing inspiration ;)
Great idea with the tinfoil. I have to try that but (un) fortunately I have progressed to the painting phase. It is just the image upload that is lagging >:(
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291
Post by: traveller on 03 June 2018, 03:41:16 PM: Base paint:
(https://s25.postimg.cc/kequ71anj/715_E212_D-3324-4_B02-_B702-_B3511_E85_F1_D6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/yl6l29lij/)

Followed by a number of layers of drybrushing:
(https://s25.postimg.cc/9rx11nzy7/D97895_EC-_EC5_F-492_D-9582-88910367_D79_D.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/43qqarvln/)
(https://s25.postimg.cc/80426q6an/D31_CC8_CB-_D4_AE-4_A38-8_F62-4_EBF1_E1_E2311.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/pdecll1ln/)
(https://s25.postimg.cc/eqkjg6w1b/A50_CC1_D1-7_ECE-4438-954_A-851523_FC3_BA1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/qsfxac59n/)

Next step is the base board with some water-like paint with several layers of gloss varnish.
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291
Post by: Breazer on 04 June 2018, 08:03:46 AM: This is quite the promising start. Curious as to what it will look like when its done but should be pretty good.
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291
Post by: traveller on 04 June 2018, 08:36:29 AM: Taking a little break from the terrain labour and finished the first batch of Templars:

(https://s25.postimg.cc/ywo1f5zfj/602_DBFE2-_F0_F5-4836-8472-_CB98_A6_E42650.png) (https://postimg.cc/image/ag5vkoyor/)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291
Post by: Belisarius on 04 June 2018, 08:57:15 AM: I,ll watch this project with interest , one of my favourite periods . What skirmish rules will you use ? I would go for Lion Rampant , or a variation of them .
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291
Post by: traveller on 04 June 2018, 09:02:43 AM: I actually do not do a lot of gaming these days due to lack of opponents. Research, building and painting is more the plan 8)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291
Post by: DintheDin on 04 June 2018, 09:02:53 AM: Neat and crispy job on your baseboard!
And a great painjtob of your Templars!
Keep 'em coming!
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291
Post by: traveller on 04 June 2018, 09:11:05 AM: DintheDin, Thanks for the encouragement! I will desperately need it! Scenery, ships and loads of miniatures to be completed o_o
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291
Post by: DintheDin on 04 June 2018, 09:22:56 AM: Quote from: traveller on 04 June 2018, 09:11:05 AM
DintheDin, Thanks for the encouragement! I will desperately need it! Scenery, ships and loads of miniatures to be completed o_o

Steady hand and your mind focused on the target! ;)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291
Post by: Knight-Captain Tyr on 04 June 2018, 09:27:14 AM: This all looks very exciting. Will be following with great interest.

May I ask where the Templar models are from?

Your patience in scoring the stonework on the foamboard is outstanding...
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291
Post by: traveller on 04 June 2018, 10:09:34 AM: Quote from: Knight-Captain Tyr on 04 June 2018, 09:27:14 AM
This all looks very exciting. Will be following with great interest.

May I ask where the Templar models are from?

Your patience in scoring the stonework on the foamboard is outstanding...

Thanks!

From left to right: GW LOTR Aragorn-Gripping Beast-Another GW LOTR Aragorn-BTD-BTD
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291
Post by: Knight-Captain Tyr on 04 June 2018, 10:24:23 AM: That's incredibly creative. Would never have guessed and yet I knew the Aragorns looked familiar. Great work.
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291
Post by: Bugsda on 04 June 2018, 02:00:09 PM: Excellent! I'm definitely nicking that Aragorn idea :D
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291
Post by: traveller on 04 June 2018, 03:56:11 PM: Quote from: Bugsda on 04 June 2018, 02:00:09 PM
Excellent! I'm definitely nicking that Aragorn idea :D

Be my guest ;) He is one of the few metal miniatures I have found with a full habit that would fit the crusades
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291
Post by: traveller on 05 June 2018, 03:03:43 PM: First batch of enemies have entered the city:

(https://s25.postimg.cc/7m2q781nj/0_DB29_A42-_A97_C-455_B-95_DB-2686567_DB228.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7yu4dejx7/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/6jsjoob4f/BD77_E7_A3-7676-4221-802_D-_DAAEEF3_C0198.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/42gsher7v/)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291
Post by: mellis1644 on 05 June 2018, 04:52:36 PM: Quote from: Belisarius on 04 June 2018, 08:57:15 AM
I,ll watch this project with interest , one of my favourite periods . What skirmish rules will you use ? I would go for Lion Rampant , or a variation of them .

There is also the new Outrider rules from Osprey for the 'small skirmish' - but not sure how good they are. :)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291
Post by: traveller on 07 June 2018, 10:53:56 AM: Hospitallers!

(https://s25.postimg.cc/dn0f4bqun/6823_FFDE-_D4_C3-45_CA-9_B0_A-22_DDD98_DDA71.png) (https://postimg.cc/image/jny41edgr/)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291
Post by: Vanvlak on 07 June 2018, 11:01:12 AM: This is really nice - and ambitious. Watching this with interest 8) 8) 8)
I came for the scenery, but the troops are nice too - and the Aragorns worked well.
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291
Post by: traveller on 07 June 2018, 11:58:33 AM: Quote from: Vanvlak on 07 June 2018, 11:01:12 AM
This is really nice - and ambitious. Watching this with interest 8) 8) 8)
I came for the scenery, but the troops are nice too - and the Aragorns worked well.

Thanks!

The GW LoTR has a lot to offer. I have a few more in the works ;)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291
Post by: War In 15MM on 07 June 2018, 06:35:24 PM: Looks great!
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291
Post by: traveller on 07 June 2018, 07:56:44 PM: Spent the day drybrushing walls and finalizing some more miniatures and the cog. The harbour is still WIP and will get a wooden jetty like in Knightfall. I also need to add a lot of ”clutter” to make it look a bit more realistic. The Cog is a Russian paper model that is quite ok in size. Not bad for 8 USD me thinks :)
I must also produce some kind of backdrop. For this WIP shot I managed to pressgang an (un)willing assistant to hold a blue sheet to avoid having the garage in the background. To fill the scene I will need quite a few civilians and casualties. Maybe also some smaller boat. Any ideas for sourcing seated medieval miniatures?
Photo of the first batch of Teutonic order in the end:

(https://s25.postimg.cc/htijyhbr3/60509_EB0-5_D0_E-40_D6-_A09_C-0_D1060_B34_BC6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/qoje900jf/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/sgcd3wrm7/5_CCE5516-6_B10-4322-89_B2-532_EE91_F1_DAC.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ivsqh12a3/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/xrr9olb3z/C4_FDFDD5-_FCC8-4_FA6-8438-9129_AA45_C6_BE.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4pczlrou3/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/6fw0nue9b/DDDF3_E35-_F709-4_FF1-8266-_FEA353397_ED6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ysrieazzf/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/e9wm8u1db/E66_FBC16-1_F1_E-43_F4-8154-_DBFD0_C1_CA381.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5rn64huuj/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/e9wm8uoin/FC0_CE5_C6-0900-4128-_A892-74_E626253_BAE.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4cllfsgwr/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/lpvvunjxr/D12104_FC-2935-4_CB8-_B816-_A24_CA3532563.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/h3zrmayej/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/enxy8clfz/1_F594_AE4-_ECDB-4_E1_D-9_D81-9_D2_A57_E31769.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3ocqwqv0r/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/f0pceivzz/21262231-0_A15-4_C77-85_F7-37_A624_A92546.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/53eblgoe3/)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
Post by: Hu Rhu on 07 June 2018, 09:57:57 PM: This is a fantastic thread. That boat is first class and at only 8$US a real bargain. Looking forward already to the next installment.
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
Post by: Poiter50 on 08 June 2018, 02:36:22 AM: Now I am really keen to get my Caravel by the same company, will probably get the Cog as well.
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
Post by: DintheDin on 08 June 2018, 05:57:16 AM: It continues to be coming out great! So are your figures! Well done!
The cog is very nice, this company makes interesting stuff!
When all this place will be filled with clutter here and there, it will suddenly spring into life! Keep up the good job!
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
Post by: tomrommel1 on 08 June 2018, 06:54:41 AM: stunning
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
Post by: Silent Invader on 08 June 2018, 07:28:14 AM: That is a lot of harbour! Well done, it’s looking great.
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
Post by: OSHIROmodels on 08 June 2018, 07:42:45 AM: Great stuff :)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
Post by: traveller on 08 June 2018, 08:06:24 AM: Many thanks for all the encouragement!

Regarding the clutter effect, I am considering to have some market stalls along the wall with canvas roofs. Anyone have experience on building such? A crane for lifting heavy cargo would also be good. Any ideas how a 13th century version should look like?

All support appreciated!
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
Post by: Poiter50 on 08 June 2018, 08:49:44 AM: Close enough if you don't feel like making your own -
STREETS OF ROME MARKET SET 28MM LASER CUT MDF SCALE BUILDING T017
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
Post by: gamer Mac on 08 June 2018, 09:07:25 AM: Some picture of stalls we made for a pirate game
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/1912_24_09_14_1_19_37_2.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/1912_18_09_14_6_43_27_4.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/18/1912_14_06_14_2_26_18_2.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/18/1912_14_06_14_2_26_18_1.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/18/1912_14_06_14_2_26_18_0.jpg)
Stalls Just made out of match sticks and scraps of balsa
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
Post by: traveller on 08 June 2018, 09:56:29 AM: Wow! They look great! Consider it stolen ;)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
Post by: DintheDin on 08 June 2018, 10:56:32 AM: Fredericus-Rex Medieval crane

https://www.fredericus-rex.eu/en/Scale-1-72-Figures-Buildings-Plants-Flag-s/By-Period---Thematic-areas/1-72-Figures-Accessories/Green-Line--GL-ZUB-005-Medieval-Crane-III-1-72.html
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
Post by: DintheDin on 08 June 2018, 11:10:33 AM: Since Roman times cranes seem to retain their basic concept of multiplying human power, using a treadwheel. Here is a Google search and some pics

https://www.google.es/search?q=roman+cranes&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiok6LEyPHUAhVOalAKHXcnDN0Q_AUICigB&biw=1920&bih=1012#imgrc=_
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
Post by: traveller on 08 June 2018, 01:46:15 PM: DintheDin,

Many thanks! Seems a bit complex to build so I might need to buy or to find a less complex crane. ”simple Medieval counterweight crane” anywhere? :D
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
Post by: DintheDin on 08 June 2018, 06:07:44 PM: Quote from: traveller on 08 June 2018, 01:46:15 PM
DintheDin,

Many thanks! Seems a bit complex to build so I might need to buy or to find a less complex crane. ”simple Medieval counterweight crane” anywhere? :D

Until you complete your search, have a look at more pics of the 1/72 crane that Fredericus Rex is selling, from the excellent Paul's Bods site:
http://paulsbods.blogspot.com/2013/10/ancient-roman-crane.html
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
Post by: DintheDin on 08 June 2018, 06:14:34 PM: Cannot be simpler, you buy some miniature pulleys for ship models
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crane_(machine)

By Eric Gaba (<a title="User:Sting" href="//commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Sting">Sting[/url] - <a title="fr:Utilisateur:Sting" class="extiw" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Sting">fr:Sting[/url]) - Own work Based upon : Dienel, Hans-Liudger & Meighörner, Wolfgang: Der Tretradkran, Publication of the Deutsches Museum (Technikgeschichte Series), 2nd ed., München 1997, p.12f., <a title="Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0" href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0">CC BY-SA 4.0[/url], Link (https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=4190698)

Photo: Greco-Roman Trispastos ("Three-pulley-crane"), the simplest crane type (150 kg load)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
Post by: traveller on 08 June 2018, 09:36:55 PM: Excellent! That looks simple enough 8)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
Post by: DintheDin on 08 June 2018, 10:03:00 PM: Quote from: traveller on 08 June 2018, 09:36:55 PM
Excellent! That looks simple enough 8)

Great! Then, I'll be extremely happy to see this simple yet very harmonious looking machine have a place at your harbor!
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
Post by: Jericho on 09 June 2018, 10:42:31 AM: You can also get the big or small treadwheel crane from Sarissa's Roman range:

Big Treadwheel Crane (https://www.sarissa-precision.com/Large_Treadwheel_Crane/p1603368_18091682.aspx)

Small Treadwheel Crane (https://www.sarissa-precision.com/Small_Treadwheel_Crane/p1603368_18091681.aspx)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
Post by: Suber on 09 June 2018, 03:18:50 PM: The whole thread is amazing :o. I love the work you are doing here :-*
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
Post by: traveller on 09 June 2018, 04:27:18 PM: Thanks for your comments! Jericho, those look fabtastic but unfortunately I have to save my bullion for lead ;)

So, I am trying to get my act together for the crane. It seems I have to cheat a bit regarding the working mechanism but it seems I have the pieces lined up after a bit of work:

(https://s25.postimg.cc/5wrdxte1b/6_A5_B2_BC9-2_CB8-433_E-9_BCB-2_E8_F373_A337_A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/r6f08nubv/)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
Post by: DintheDin on 10 June 2018, 08:58:57 AM: I like very much how you made the "Alpha" part of the crane, eager to see the continuation! Cheers!
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
Post by: Vanvlak on 10 June 2018, 09:26:37 AM: Nice work - the cog is a nice little ship, the fortifications are grand - like the lighting with that reflection in the water in particular.
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
Post by: OSHIROmodels on 10 June 2018, 09:35:57 AM: I like the crane 8)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
Post by: Silent Invader on 10 June 2018, 10:14:28 AM: The crane is looking very good 8)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
Post by: traveller on 10 June 2018, 10:42:55 AM: Fiddly work it is....construction will not get any further so this is it before painting:

(https://s25.postimg.cc/ijg1jcorj/2_EB860_C8-_CCBE-411_B-87_FB-2_BB97_C4023_E6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5s1vcuezf/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/jlq81wfan/338_A3905-0732-465_C-_AEC9-_B500894517_F0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/b3grxk8rv/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/9of78ts9b/D1_BF5074-405_C-4_E45-_A46_E-590_BB90_C43_EB.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/64t9j0pjf/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/s3zo69gof/916_AE4_B5-6822-432_B-_B24_B-2_F2552753_FC3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/s3zo69gob/)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Harbour UPDATE p 2
Post by: traveller on 10 June 2018, 04:26:53 PM: I really enjoyed painting this ”unlikely Templar” I guess you recognize the miniature :D

(https://s25.postimg.cc/gp7sexjan/F4_F48340-5_CBB-4241-_BD5_F-82_CE693_D0997.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/uvnja5u5n/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/sr3692ktb/90_B5_BD9_B-24_E9-4_C84-_A5_AE-_B21_F8_E3_A4248.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/8jpqgrnbv/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/6rwrlttof/AA641_F78-6523-481_F-8862-11_EBF62_C69_E6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/z4s9cafej/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/tglyleqhr/94169_D41-_DA35-4_A92-8_F11-84_E1_C65_F5_B7_F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/503sqxpqz/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/4ncekqzrj/4_AC00_BBD-_D8_C9-4_EA9-84_C4-6_D38_F4_D42800.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4al0ekhhn/)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 UPDATE p 4
Post by: Belgian on 10 June 2018, 04:30:26 PM: A GW LOTR Ringwraith! :o
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 UPDATE p 4
Post by: Codsticker on 10 June 2018, 05:06:04 PM: Quote from: Belgian on 10 June 2018, 04:30:26 PM
A GW LOTR Ringwraith! :o
Good eye Belgian! :D
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 UPDATE p 4
Post by: traveller on 10 June 2018, 05:20:53 PM: Well spotted 8)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 UPDATE p 4
Post by: traveller on 12 June 2018, 08:23:23 AM: A few more Teutonic order brothers:

(https://s25.postimg.cc/s67k5q4jz/3760669_D-9910-42_BB-_A640-4_B42_F00_E6_D30.png) (https://postimg.cc/image/q1n74n2x7/)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 UPDATE p 4
Post by: DintheDin on 12 June 2018, 09:34:35 AM: Oooh! I like this hue!
And the crane well done! Congrats!
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 UPDATE p 4
Post by: Kadzik on 20 June 2018, 02:08:53 PM: Great project. Truly inspiring!
I'm waiting to see progress.
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 UPDATE p 4
Post by: traveller on 20 June 2018, 10:05:55 PM: Added the crane, pier and some clutter:

(https://s25.postimg.cc/k6pxcfmgv/04_BE8833-23_A4-4417-_B8_D0-_BC6_E6_AD475_A0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/r9xss1rwb/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/eijmljpu7/169682_DD-4_B09-4984-8095-_E7579_FD65_BE0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4l8lshi8b/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/osm1ksnfj/9294_B494-0_A67-41_FB-9765-2_D4_A38_D2_DDB9.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/tei5t58yj/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/mpg7qacu7/B71_C0_CDF-6314-4564-93_A3-_F26_E43366_A13.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/61opnsi2j/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/c17ve9qi7/E062_F276-98_FD-4_C06-891_D-_DFC69356191_F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/i25kbcd4b/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/fxl7aa6cv/C11_C19_AB-8605-44_BA-8476-7_D70_A4_E7_B35_B.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ypx2dv2qz/)

Busy painting miniatures now. Need to populate the port!
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Post by: Knight-Captain Tyr on 22 June 2018, 01:36:38 PM: That is just amazing.

Can't wait to see some action shots. Really inspired by this.
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Post by: traveller on 22 June 2018, 06:12:02 PM: Thanks for your comments!
Forces are building up, slowly but surely....
Here is the latest addition:
(https://s25.postimg.cc/4f86nloxb/5_F921290-_A866-4_C92-9029-26_F2_E182_F22_D.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/h6mcu3yp7/)

As soon as I have enough attackers, defenders and civilians I will do some action shots. I initially only planned the harbour setting but I am pondering if I should build a breached wall section to present the break into the city. I have then enough houses to set up some street fighting so this project could eventually end up in three stages:
1. The Breach
2. The City
3. The Harbour

It will require more miniatures and to scratch out the city surface as well as terrain for the breach of the walls. Maybe I can finish it within this year ;D
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Post by: DintheDin on 22 June 2018, 07:00:43 PM: :-* Excellent minis!
I see that your plan unfolds to a grand project!
You have proven that you have the potential!
I wish you all the best! Cheers!
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Post by: traveller on 22 June 2018, 11:19:59 PM: Thanks Din,

Lets hope it unfolds and not just folds :D
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Post by: Belisarius on 25 June 2018, 01:26:01 PM: It’s all coming together beautifully, more power to your elbow. 😎
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Post by: Silent Invader on 25 June 2018, 01:31:38 PM: Very much enjoying progress 8)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 UPDATE p 4
Post by: traveller on 25 June 2018, 08:18:48 PM: Thanks for the encouragement!
I am though no longer in charge of the project. The project owns me and keeps expanding beyond control! o_o ;D

I just realize that I need minis for all the main characters of this drama and I am lacking a few which I would be grateful to receive some proposals. My biggest concern is to find a suitable King Henry II of Jerusalem. He was 21 years old in 1291 and I would ideally like to have him portrayed as he leaves Acre by ship May 18. I imagine him in chainmail and a surcoat with a sword sheated ( not drawn). Maybe with a mantle and a crown on his head. Very much like this one but dismounted:
https://1stcorps.co.uk/product/mec05-medieval-king-wearing-chainmail-coif/
Any ideas out there?
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 UPDATE p 4
Post by: Colonel Tubby on 26 June 2018, 04:22:48 PM: Quote from: traveller on 25 June 2018, 08:18:48 PM
Thanks for the encouragement!
I am though no longer in charge of the project. The project owns me and keeps expanding beyond control! o_o ;D

I just realize that I need minis for all the main characters of this drama and I am lacking a few which I would be grateful to receive some proposals. My biggest concern is to find a suitable King Henry II of Jerusalem. He was 21 years old in 1291 and I would ideally like to have him portrayed as he leaves Acre by ship May 18. I imagine him in chainmail and a surcoat with a sword sheated ( not drawn). Maybe with a mantle and a crown on his head. Very much like this one but dismounted:
https://1stcorps.co.uk/product/mec05-medieval-king-wearing-chainmail-coif/
Any ideas out there?

Great project. You try these from Crusader

http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/prod.php?prod=964 (you'll need to do an arm swap)

http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/prod.php?prod=108 (swap the heads on the top two maybe)
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Post by: traveller on 26 June 2018, 07:04:34 PM: Thanks Col Tubby,

Great proposals! The armswap is beyond my skills I am afraid, but the other is definately a strong candidate. Many thanks!
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Help needed on page 5!
Post by: rumacara on 27 June 2018, 08:10:01 AM: Lovely thread. :-* :-* :-*
Will follow with great interest. :)
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Post by: Phil Portway on 27 June 2018, 12:42:13 PM: :o :o :o :o What a fab project!

Gotta love the crusades!
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Help needed on page 5!
Post by: traveller on 01 July 2018, 12:02:54 PM: Thanks for your comments!

Continue to have some fun with LoTR conversions - Boromir the Templar!

(https://s25.postimg.cc/sl8cwbgrz/7_A98550_E-79_AC-4982-83_A9-_ABB497_E4868_E.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6ytcfai7f/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/sxzr2hrbz/56_D2943_A-_E7_E8-4746-8_A2_F-1_A2_FE7316_D72.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/lurvmvlwb/)

And staging a few action shots with Boromir and a few Templar sergeants are skirmishing in a village outside Acre before the siege:

(https://s25.postimg.cc/a6xtrqwlb/69_F773_DA-6_D13-4828-9_CAB-59737_C50_AD44.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9u6flkebf/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/r7gq0fhcf/AF51_B5_B9-0526-4_E9_D-_B777-_B5176_F19_C8_B1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/wivml53ez/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/g7vioulsf/CCA66_D3_B-3807-4769-94_AA-_F6_ED7_D92_FA05.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/xxx79vzd7/)

In another part of the village a group of Templars are cornered:

(https://s25.postimg.cc/wivml6dpr/31_BE0_B40-57_A5-44_F8-93_B4-794_AFCB3387_E.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/yaolg2x2j/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/6nbw1z467/786_EED2_C-8987-4_B57-9_D1_B-5942790_D2014.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/nb3e4gyxn/)

But the one of the men shouts for help:

(https://s25.postimg.cc/l7sywx1qn/4922_A480-9_F9_D-4_A88-9_C7_C-_BF32_B5_CDE266.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/g95gidxxn/)

and Prince Amalric, Lord of Tyre comes to the rescue:

(https://s25.postimg.cc/7oc4rmnvz/FCD5892_A-_A670-420_F-_B60_E-6_ED9348_F79_FF.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/pr57iujqj/)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 5
Post by: Silent Invader on 01 July 2018, 12:23:10 PM: It’s all looking very good. :-*

The Boromir conversion was a smart one. 8)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 5
Post by: traveller on 01 July 2018, 12:44:54 PM: Quote from: Silent Invader on 01 July 2018, 12:23:10 PM
It’s all looking very good. :-*

The Boromir conversion was a smart one. 8)

The LoTR really has some useful little gems ;)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 5
Post by: DintheDin on 01 July 2018, 01:03:25 PM: More and more interesting! Please, keep posting!
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Post by: Gangleri on 03 July 2018, 04:15:51 PM: Excellent work all around and wonderful use of the various LotR miniatures.
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 5
Post by: Marine0846 on 03 July 2018, 07:37:08 PM: Lots of new figures.
Really great set up you have
and the figures to go with it. :-*
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 5
Post by: Phil Portway on 03 July 2018, 10:23:20 PM: I love your painting style
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 5
Post by: traveller on 04 July 2018, 09:10:19 AM: Thanks for your comments and encouragement!
I am now struggling a bit whether to finalize the port OR to paint more minis OR to build a breach for the castle wall OR to prepare the base board for the city (lots of cobble stones to be cut out)??? ??? ??? Ideally it would be nice to do the whole project in chronological order, which is the reason why I scrambled together the above pictures ;)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 5
Post by: Munindk on 04 July 2018, 09:26:07 AM: By the looks of it you've enough (gorgeous) terrain and minis to start playing, so I'd prioritize the projects that allow you to play different scenarios or bigger battles :)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 5
Post by: DintheDin on 04 July 2018, 07:51:06 PM: Quote from: Munindk on 04 July 2018, 09:26:07 AM
By the looks of it you've enough (gorgeous) terrain and minis to start playing, so I'd prioritize the projects that allow you to play different scenarios or bigger battles :)

I agree with the above. But whatever you create and post, is an eye candy for us! So, keep up the good job and keep posting! :)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 5
Post by: traveller on 09 July 2018, 03:26:14 PM: Some Hospitaller sergeants added to the defenders

(https://s25.postimg.cc/r66s7ksjj/C31_B7729-_B397-4281-9_CBC-3_B73_F23_EB933.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4u8ze6tff/)

Amazingly detailed sculpts from Claymore castings ;)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 6
Post by: tomrommel1 on 10 July 2018, 09:52:18 AM: :-*
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Post by: gamer Mac on 19 July 2018, 07:08:30 PM: Have you seen the History channel program Knightfall, it looks very like you lovely project :-* :-* :-*
Keep up the good work
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 6
Post by: traveller on 19 July 2018, 10:39:07 PM: Quote from: gamer Mac on 19 July 2018, 07:08:30 PM
Have you seen the History channel program Knightfall, it looks very like you lovely project :-* :-* :-*
Keep up the good work

See page 1, thats what started it all ;)
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Post by: gamer Mac on 20 July 2018, 09:14:05 PM: DOH ;D ;D ;D
lol lol
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 6
Post by: traveller on 30 July 2018, 12:49:29 PM: I built and added some hoardings to the harbour defences:

(https://s25.postimg.cc/ya7nczmen/724_E6_B5_B-3_EDE-4_C78-882_E-917_CC631027_E.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/je945eazv/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/57tda5sf3/FE2_FA963-_AE92-4081-98_DF-196_EDD542857.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/rjr63jriz/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/u12xatqv3/C7_C18792-_F4_A2-42_CC-_AF49-6_FE0681_B7_BE4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7p54hfrqz/)

Decided to put the harbour scene on hold for a while and switch to building the breach of the city walls. I picked up some Renedra walls to build a breach:

(https://s25.postimg.cc/bht8apman/5076991_C-_F6_B5-44_DF-_BDF9-4_CE54818_E28_D.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/dz4zhz66z/)
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Post by: grant on 31 July 2018, 02:57:05 AM: Epic project :o
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Post by: DintheDin on 31 July 2018, 07:00:21 AM: The breach may become an eye catcher, I have faith on you!
Also the hoardings are very well done, congrats!
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 6
Post by: OSHIROmodels on 31 July 2018, 07:03:43 AM: Love the hoardings 8)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 6
Post by: traveller on 16 August 2018, 05:56:45 PM: Producing a cobblestone board is boring >:( >:(

(https://s25.postimg.cc/5nr73xxxb/B59_A6342-85_EE-4_E4_C-_A86_F-_B60_CF4_E47_C72.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/uh0r4lgxn/)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 6
Post by: Vanvlak on 16 August 2018, 06:10:56 PM: Brilliant work again, the hoardings are magnificent - and I like the look of the cobbles-in-progress. 8) 8)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 6
Post by: traveller on 16 August 2018, 08:09:58 PM: Thanks Vanvolak!

Any form of encouragement is much appreciated! Just finished the damned cobbles and gave them a first wash :)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/cjg10q4wf/A52_F8_C84-54_CA-4_C6_E-_ABCE-_CE2_AEC595_F72.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7ksim713f/)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 6
Post by: Eric the Shed on 17 August 2018, 06:49:35 AM: fantastic looking project...if you need inspiration on your breach I built one and loggesd the details on my blog here

http://shedwars.blogspot.com/2016/11/once-more-unto-breach.html (http://shedwars.blogspot.com/2016/11/once-more-unto-breach.html) - part one will take you onto part 2

(https://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j375/ErictheShed/Breach%20the%20Walls/DSC_0932_zpswftatnhs.jpg)

looking forward to seeing how this all develops
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 6
Post by: Captain Blood on 17 August 2018, 07:20:11 AM: The whole thing is looking epic and excellent :-*
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Post by: traveller on 17 August 2018, 03:51:28 PM: Thanks!

Eric, I must admit that your model is the template I am using ;)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 6
Post by: traveller on 26 August 2018, 02:51:56 PM: Adding the Sultans bodyguard to the besiegeing forces:

(https://s25.postimg.cc/eajrxgutr/5094_BCC6-4_B48-4437-97_A9-_A49_C8_DF95093.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9bw9ixr0r/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/n5km7zbwf/7170677_D-3_FCB-4_C7_B-8_D1_C-86_DF7_A0157_FF.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7k3ao0zy3/)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 6
Post by: DintheDin on 26 August 2018, 03:24:33 PM: Fearsome and ready to attack! Keep them coming!
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 7
Post by: Knight-Captain Tyr on 13 September 2018, 10:27:03 AM: This log continues to impress and inspire. I aspire to (one day) having room for a similar setup to this. Awesome stuff.
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 7
Post by: traveller on 16 September 2018, 09:53:05 AM: I got diverted by my son who suddenly wanted to game WW2!!! :o :o :o
Cant miss that so Acre will have to wait a bit. I have finished the breach and will make a more proper write up and photo session later, but here are some quick shots of the Mamluks breaking into the inner wall of May 18, 1291:
(https://s25.postimg.cc/mkwwkuusv/F2129898-4_E30-4236-9_F01-1_C435_C0_C78_C5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/dpw2ac60b/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/x6grx1w1b/9_DA8489_E-8_E6_A-411_A-8_A99-82_A9_CD3_EF3_D7.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9fheexvu3/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/9fheey3jz/2_B0_D6_C34-5_C15-458_D-_ACEE-3133_DFF1_B095.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/a506rb43f/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/e1dinawsv/76808530-_C385-49_D0-8168-_A22_B097_E13_D5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/hxqujahsb/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/auiz3n227/C9160637-2_F66-4_BCC-8_C5_F-_DC7_B8728_A678.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/zb14y42sr/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/6y5n7nwi7/F180_E87_C-1159-4249-_B79_B-74_A9_EC002_EDF.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/wtpdquybv/)

Brothers of the Teutonic order hurrying to support:
(https://s25.postimg.cc/p28ns59kf/1_F7_F2_C41-419_D-4030-9_A1_D-_CEF86176_B2_AA.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/by33fghij/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/v1wevymov/306_E0_D22-_B1_BF-4_E46-898_C-_B4_DE07_E56_F84.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/a506raonv/)

But all are not in a hurry to help their rivals in the Templar and Hospitaller orders...
(https://s25.postimg.cc/7oyddb1en/830_DE46_E-3045-4_BB2-8_B44-_B976_E1806_CA6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/aj1iqr3kr/)

Desperate fighting in courtyards and alleyways:
(https://s25.postimg.cc/9fheex8ov/DF215483-298_D-4212-9702-4_B0_B2958_D752.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/e1din9u7v/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/rwbt5ljgf/6_A74_F6_B1-_F6_B3-426_F-_B1_BC-_ED7_A917_A92_DB.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/k3l5dmdh7/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/93zy20urz/EC51_F6_E5-6433-4_B4_B-8388-_C74_DAF4_F750_A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/mxoar2nd7/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/s7t9ihpnj/DA159_FA0-_C914-40_AF-84_D0-67_ABEE904130.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/80ftq6s63/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/6le91igtb/F00_B0_E26-55_DB-4_F41-_B4_C7-27530378_AEC5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/obfxmjue3/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/4uv7ztwnj/971_F8042-750_A-45_AE-8208-418_DFE58_CD27.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/81prjgh3f/)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/nafox8ihr/A7955_DB0-_A1_A8-47_F7-84_DB-75_F46172_AA82.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4i3ttnm3f/)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 7
Post by: DintheDin on 16 September 2018, 10:08:44 AM: Wow!
Atmospheric, evocative and inspiring!
Breathtaking action! Well done!
Keep them coming!
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 7
Post by: Hu Rhu on 16 September 2018, 10:10:15 AM: Absolutely stunning scenery and figures. :-* :-*
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 7
Post by: rumacara on 16 September 2018, 10:40:38 AM: Very well done. :-* :-*
One of those inspiring projects. :)
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 7
Post by: Marine0846 on 16 September 2018, 05:13:37 PM: Great photos.
Love them.
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 7
Post by: Anderson Collection on 16 September 2018, 06:57:51 PM: Great work on show :-*
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 7
Post by: traveller on 16 September 2018, 09:32:48 PM: Thanks all for your comments! Much appreciated!
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 7
Post by: gamer Mac on 19 September 2018, 12:05:56 PM: Great set of photos :-* :-* :-*
Very nice project I hope you get back to it soon
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 7
Post by: bluewillow on 22 September 2018, 06:35:27 PM: Fabulous work I mus say. It will be. A great inspiration for my upcoming projects, my French medieval town and castle for lion Rampant.

Cheers
Matt
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Post by: ragbones on 27 September 2018, 12:02:50 AM: :o My jaw just hit the floor. That’s superb.
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Post by: Knight-Captain Tyr on 06 October 2018, 03:33:44 PM: Really outstanding stuff. So inspired by this.
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Post by: Eric the Shed on 06 October 2018, 03:50:41 PM: Your breach looks fabulous -
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Post by: grant on 06 October 2018, 08:12:05 PM: Stunning!
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 7
Post by: traveller on 07 October 2018, 09:18:50 PM: I am afraid I will not be able to return to this project until the new year but rest assured, return I will ;)

Thanks for your comments and interest!
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 7
Post by: traveller on 13 June 2021, 01:45:59 PM: After a long detour of other projects I have finally come back to Acre :)
I am planning to skip my old home brewed rules and use Lion Rampant instead. I therefore need to organize the existing, and new, forces into the 6 and 12 figure groups and need to find a suitable scale ratio. The info on the attackers is not very detailed in terms of military formations but I understand that the info on the defending side is much better documented. I have read the Osprey campaign book and a few other accounts but failed to pin down the number of knights (and sergeants)from the military orders. The defenders were around 1000 knights(Templars, Hospitallers, Teutonic, Lazarus, St Thomas, English, French, Cyprus, Italian) and around 14000 infantry. I found the following in an old print of an article by Ian Dunbar ( no sources mentioned) but I wonder if they can be correct?

Templar knights 240
Hospitaller knights 140
Teutonic knights 15

Grateful for any insights!
Title: Re: The Fall of Acre 1291 Updated p 7
Post by: traveller on 04 August 2021, 12:58:15 PM: My first try on 3d printed 28mm miniatures that I picked up on ebay, this one from Highland Miniatures:

(https://i.postimg.cc/9QmFTsDK/9-ECD9-E0-A-C4-B2-4-B13-81-C9-7-E373-D752-E52.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zVQrYtSF)

(https://i.postimg.cc/43nf2tb1/1D7C7E32-9F56-45D3-A2B2-38796F8A85D6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kV3PB2HV)

Comparison L-R

(https://i.postimg.cc/sfMX4MDx/CCB36AFB-CCF7-43FD-9020-0D6ED257349E.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7bywxYzr)

Crusader-BTD-Highland-Claymore-GB