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Title: ROUND 4 Pro Patria Mori vs Wargames - Animal Farm Winter 1946
Post by: Captain Blood on 18 May 2009, 12:05:01 AM
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/2/577_17_05_09_10_01_12_2.jpg)

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Title: Re: ROUND 4 Pro Patria Mori vs Wargames - Animal Farm Winter 1946
Post by: Mancha on 18 May 2009, 01:30:23 AM
Well, those are among the best painted pigs I've ever seen.  Yup...
Title: Re: ROUND 4 Pro Patria Mori vs Wargames - Animal Farm Winter 1946
Post by: DFlynSqrl on 18 May 2009, 04:31:21 AM
Nice use of the map tile for the table!
Title: Re: ROUND 4 Pro Patria Mori vs Wargames - Animal Farm Winter 1946
Post by: Alxbates on 18 May 2009, 05:01:35 AM
I had to vote for Animal Farm because of the great concept and the map tile.
Title: Re: ROUND 4 Pro Patria Mori vs Wargames - Animal Farm Winter 1946
Post by: gamer Mac on 18 May 2009, 08:25:25 AM
I don't get the concept on the second one! Can anybody explain ???
Title: Re: ROUND 4 Pro Patria Mori vs Wargames - Animal Farm Winter 1946
Post by: Malebolgia on 18 May 2009, 08:29:45 AM
Really like both of them. The first one uses a very cool backdrop which really enhances the whole picture and adds a lot to it. The painting also looks very nice and it is always a treat to see Hasslefree stuff painted.
The second is sheer genious in its design. A lot of painted stuff, lots of character and great humour. And there is a tank.
Good job on both entries!
Title: Re: ROUND 4 Pro Patria Mori vs Wargames - Animal Farm Winter 1946
Post by: Braxandur on 18 May 2009, 08:35:38 AM
I don't get the concept on the second one! Can anybody explain ???

I'd suggest reading the book "animal farm" by George Orwell. The must be a meeting of the pigs. Perhaps even the at the end of the book when an outsider looks at the pigs.

Then again, I have no clue why there is a swine in a tank  lol
Title: Re: ROUND 4 Pro Patria Mori vs Wargames - Animal Farm Winter 1946
Post by: Wirelizard on 18 May 2009, 08:46:30 AM
The period photo as a background for the WW1 hobbits is inspired, as is the (GW Empires?) map tile and general concept of the Animal Farm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_farm) setup!

Not an easy choice!

Who makes the pigs?
Title: Re: ROUND 4 Pro Patria Mori vs Wargames - Animal Farm Winter 1946
Post by: Vanvlak on 18 May 2009, 08:49:36 AM
OK, I'll have a shot at explaining. But first - yes, using the trench and the view 'over the step' was a grand idea.  8)

Animal Farm was a swipe at Communism by George Orwell, and in this the pigs led a revolt which resulted in an animal-owned farm; eventually they themselves became an elite, and things ended up same as before for the other animals.
In this case, some years down the line the Pigs are at war with their neighbours, and they're into mechanized warfare (hence the SU with the - uh - sawn-off cannon); and four of the bosses are meeting to plan the next campaign (on what I'd love to have for a games table!). The tank happened to be passing; and there's a human mechanic (his tools in his apron can only just be seen) for no good reason except that he has slightly porcine features, which can of course not be made out in my photo. With him is a cat. Cats belong anywhere.
The pig is in the tank because I like tanks with a Saukopf...  ;)  ;)
The four 'main' pigs are, by the way, allegoric: one is a War pig, one a Worker pig, one a Sea pig and one an Air pig (hence the propeller leaning against the table). Yes, I know, hopelessly over the top and whatever happened to the-picture-tells-a-story?
But they were fun to paint. And I'd had this table idea for ages, so this provided a good excuse to use it.
WireLizard - yes, the table is a map tile from GW's Mighty Empires campaign pack (the current edition) - it was free with an old White Dwarf; the pigs are actually mounts for a range of dwarfs from -dang! I forgot! I'll try to find out.
Title: Re: ROUND 4 Pro Patria Mori vs Wargames - Animal Farm Winter 1946
Post by: Malebolgia on 18 May 2009, 08:51:46 AM
They're from West Wind's range, aren't they? The range with all the dwarves riding all kinds of weird animals?
Title: Re: ROUND 4 Pro Patria Mori vs Wargames - Animal Farm Winter 1946
Post by: Vanvlak on 18 May 2009, 09:36:36 AM
They're from West Wind's range, aren't they? The range with all the dwarves riding all kinds of weird animals?
That's it! West wind. Thanks Malebolgia.
Title: Re: ROUND 4 Pro Patria Mori vs Wargames - Animal Farm Winter 1946
Post by: keeper on 18 May 2009, 10:56:15 AM
Great concept, Vanvlak :)  The prop against the table next the the flying pig is a really nice touch :D

How did you get that nice water effect on the pig's base on the right?  Is it just painted on? Because if it is, it is very good!
Title: Re: ROUND 4 Pro Patria Mori vs Wargames - Animal Farm Winter 1946
Post by: Wilkins on 18 May 2009, 04:08:16 PM
Amazing concept on the second one, no idea how you thought of doing that! And you pulled it off marvellously as well, great effort!
Title: Re: ROUND 4 Pro Patria Mori vs Wargames - Animal Farm Winter 1946
Post by: Vanvlak on 18 May 2009, 04:22:44 PM
Great concept, Vanvlak :)  The prop against the table next the the flying pig is a really nice touch :D

How did you get that nice water effect on the pig's base on the right?  Is it just painted on? Because if it is, it is very good!
Thanks  :)
The water effect uses a basing material which produces a gritty base; I usually roughen it up a bit to produce a choppy sort of surface and paint the lot blue, shade some slightly lighter blue and then drybrush with white for the foam. I'll check the name of the product once at home - my memory is rubbish!
The idea cropped up because a trawl of the lead mountain unearthed the pigs, which are (a) nice old models (b) fast and easy to paint (c) unusual (d) they could be easily placed to overlook the table, which I'd been itching to include (with taller legs it looks a bit unsteady). The tank came as an afterthought.
Title: Re: ROUND 4 Pro Patria Mori vs Wargames - Animal Farm Winter 1946
Post by: Mad Carew Snr on 18 May 2009, 04:37:41 PM
Both excellent!
Title: Re: ROUND 4 Pro Patria Mori vs Wargames - Animal Farm Winter 1946
Post by: Grimm on 18 May 2009, 05:27:47 PM
OK I like the first one for the story that tells the picture .
I like the Animal Farm for the amazing paint job on the pigs .
But the terrain in the second picture is normaly a no go .
After all the pigs get my vote they are very good painted and it is a paintig contest not a terrain contest.

Grimm

Title: Re: ROUND 4 Pro Patria Mori vs Wargames - Animal Farm Winter 1946
Post by: Vanvlak on 18 May 2009, 06:26:33 PM
True Grimm - I agree and really do have to get better scenery.
But - oh wow, thanks for the great complement on the pigpaint - coming from the likes of you, that IS something!  8)
Keeper - I checked the product, and it was of course a Vallejo terrain slurry: grey pumice, 26.213 - basically acrylic resin with grit to produce a rough surface. Useful stuff. it comes in a 200ml tub.
Title: Re: ROUND 4 Pro Patria Mori vs Wargames - Animal Farm Winter 1946
Post by: Hammers on 18 May 2009, 07:03:31 PM
OK, I'll have a shot at explaining. But first - yes, using the trench and the view 'over the step' was a grand idea.  8)

Animal Farm was a swipe at Communism by George Orwell, and in this the pigs led a revolt which resulted in an animal-owned farm; eventually they themselves became an elite, and things ended up same as before for the other animals.
In this case, some years down the line the Pigs are at war with their neighbours, and they're into mechanized warfare (hence the SU with the - uh - sawn-off cannon); and four of the bosses are meeting to plan the next campaign (on what I'd love to have for a games table!). The tank happened to be passing; and there's a human mechanic (his tools in his apron can only just be seen) for no good reason except that he has slightly porcine features, which can of course not be made out in my photo. With him is a cat. Cats belong anywhere.
The pig is in the tank because I like tanks with a Saukopf...  ;)  ;)
The four 'main' pigs are, by the way, allegoric: one is a War pig, one a Worker pig, one a Sea pig and one an Air pig (hence the propeller leaning against the table). Yes, I know, hopelessly over the top and whatever happened to the-picture-tells-a-story?
But they were fun to paint. And I'd had this table idea for ages, so this provided a good excuse to use it.
WireLizard - yes, the table is a map tile from GW's Mighty Empires campaign pack (the current edition) - it was free with an old White Dwarf; the pigs are actually mounts for a range of dwarfs from -dang! I forgot! I'll try to find out.


Love it. Truly oddball.
Title: Re: ROUND 4 Pro Patria Mori vs Wargames - Animal Farm Winter 1946
Post by: keeper on 19 May 2009, 12:12:15 PM
Thanks for the info, Vanvlak :)  I think I shall look into this slurry ... :D
Title: Re: ROUND 4 Pro Patria Mori vs Wargames - Animal Farm Winter 1946
Post by: Pil on 19 May 2009, 12:37:15 PM
I love the animal farm entry, the addition of the tank did help a lot, otherwise it would've been dull I think (pigs around a table). The first entry is very nice as well and sadly I didn't notice they were halflings at first. The use of background photo's works really well in pictures like these.
Title: Re: ROUND 4 Pro Patria Mori vs Wargames - Animal Farm Winter 1946
Post by: Hitman on 19 May 2009, 08:36:18 PM
I must admit the set up of the first photo looks great, yet the animals in the second one look quite real!! Both are nicely painted. Tough decision!!
Title: Re: ROUND 4 Pro Patria Mori vs Wargames - Animal Farm Winter 1946
Post by: twrchtrwyth on 22 May 2009, 11:55:08 PM
Both nice entries but the pigs got it.

@Vanvlak:Is the mechanic the shopkeeper from The Maze of Zagor game?
Title: Re: ROUND 4 Pro Patria Mori vs Wargames - Animal Farm Winter 1946
Post by: Vanvlak on 23 May 2009, 10:16:25 AM
Both nice entries but the pigs got it.

@Vanvlak:Is the mechanic the shopkeeper from The Maze of Zagor game?
I wish I knew! I got him along with a pile of other stuff (from orcs to skellies to heroes to a dragon and a manticore and a large vampiric monster) from a kind contributor to The Pile That Remains To Be Painted.

*checks The Google*

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/3794 (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/3794) from Board Game Geek - it's The Legend of Zagor, and although I could not make out the little guy, the other models are the ones I'd been sent, so yes, that's almost certainly his provenance - well spotted  8) In fact the Vampiric Monster type is actually Zagor himself, it seems.
Title: Re: ROUND 4 Pro Patria Mori vs Wargames - Animal Farm Winter 1946
Post by: keeper on 25 May 2009, 11:26:49 PM
Well played, Vanvlak :)  Congrats on the win in this round! :D
Title: Re: ROUND 4 Pro Patria Mori vs Wargames - Animal Farm Winter 1946
Post by: Vanvlak on 26 May 2009, 06:20:29 AM
Well played, Vanvlak :)  Congrats on the win in this round! :D
Awww, thanks. I have to admit I voted for yours though - the scenery coupled with the background photo was brilliant  8) 8) 8)