Miniatures Adventure => The Second World War => Topic started by: Harry Faversham on 14 January 2019, 01:58:20 PM
Title: Perry Rolls Royce Armoured Car...
Post by: Harry Faversham on 14 January 2019, 01:58:20 PM
Has it been dropped from production, I can't find one on their website?
???
Title: Re: Perry Rolls Royce Armoured Car...
Post by: Eclaireur on 14 January 2019, 05:30:00 PM
I haven't spoken to the Perrys about this so can't be sure ... but it may be the RR armoured car is being re-modelled. I know there were some questions on forums about the accuracy of the kit, EC
Title: Re: Perry Rolls Royce Armoured Car...
Post by: Genialjim on 14 January 2019, 06:56:51 PM
Hi,
Asked about this today should be back on the site in about 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Perry Rolls Royce Armoured Car...
Post by: Harry Faversham on 14 January 2019, 11:51:02 PM
Thanks for that chaps.
:)
Title: Re: Perry Rolls Royce Armoured Car...
Post by: Fitz on 15 January 2019, 04:24:44 AM
If they don't get a take-down letter from BMW, I'll be surprised. They're getting very litigious about people using the Rolls Royce name for anything, even historical models.
Title: Re: Perry Rolls Royce Armoured Car...
Post by: carlos marighela on 15 January 2019, 07:16:57 AM
Maybe (out of fear of litigation) they altered the name in their listing?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V5gFAiPJhvI
It seems apt. :)
Title: Re: Perry Rolls Royce Armoured Car...
Post by: molecatcherjohn on 20 January 2019, 10:14:42 PM
Hi, does anyone have material on the later, early WW2 variants of the Rolls Royce? Details of the wheels and open turret would be helpful. I'm just modelling a new turret for the mod 21 and thought while I was doing that, I would add the later details.
Also, can anyone highlight the differences that might appear in the Fordson chassis? Or refer me to any site/documentation that can help?
Many thanks,
John
Title: Re: Perry Rolls Royce Armoured Car...
Post by: lou passejaire on 21 January 2019, 02:28:29 AM
Title: Re: Perry Rolls Royce Armoured Car...
Post by: Redmist1122 on 21 January 2019, 04:04:57 AM
I may have bought the last one...I got it mid December (2018). Its a real nice piece for the 8th Army.
That's good Perry will continue production of the kit...well worth the buy.
Title: Re: Perry Rolls Royce Armoured Car...
Post by: molecatcherjohn on 23 January 2019, 06:04:54 PM
Thanks for the info everyone.
Patrick, the turret on the 1924 model looks quite wide. Almost as if it overhangs the body underneath, which doesn't match the earlier model (I think). Was the bodywork modified and widened for the 1924 model or should it be the same as earlier models? I see a note at the bottom about "due to lack of good reference material" so might it be right to think that the only major change was the addition of the open turret?
Also - anyone - the major difference on the Fordson chassis seems to be the length of the bonnet, which extends further than the original vehicle. Does anyone agree with that, or are there other major changes as well?
Many thanks,
John
Title: Re: Perry Rolls Royce Armoured Car...
Post by: Lord Raglan on 23 January 2019, 07:15:52 PM
If they don't get a take-down letter from BMW, I'll be surprised. They're getting very litigious about people using the Rolls Royce name for anything, even historical models.
What is life becoming
Title: Re: Perry Rolls Royce Armoured Car...
Post by: carlos marighela on 23 January 2019, 08:01:44 PM
My understanding was the principle, if not sole differences, between the 1921 model and the 1924 model was the turret and some had a shallow dome above the drivers head to increase head room. The original 1924 pattern horse shoe shaped turret featured a cupola. Photos suggest that,if anything, it was somewhat narrower than the body and narrower than the 1914 and 1921 pattern mitre shaped turrets. See here:
The RR cars seen with 13th Hussars had the turret removed and replaced with a non-rotating version,I believe as much for liveability as anything. That was fitted with a Boys AT, smoke mortar and a rear mounted Bren. Again I’m not sure the photos bear out the view that the fixed turret overhung the hull.
Many if not most of the 1921 pattern pictured during the war were ex-RAF. Many if not all seem to have had a new hatch cut into them and a Scarff mount fitted.
The armoured superstructures were, with some minor adaption, just bolted on to new chassis. There were no factory built, new, Fordson variants just old hulls on new chassis. Similar things were done beween the war with Peerless Hulls and Crossley cars. The Crossleys were refitted onto Chevrolet chassis.
Title: Re: Perry Rolls Royce Armoured Car...
Post by: lou passejaire on 24 January 2019, 01:25:09 PM
i agree with Carlos, same was done with Laffly 50 ... no modification of the armored superstructure .
for the turret, my opinion is that, as for the french saharian vehicles, the heat in a closed armored vehicle is unbearable ( around 80° celsius in the Berliet VUBD close in Sahara ) . so the choice of an open turret ( as most of the use of the vehicle is "police" use ) .