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Miniatures Adventure => The Second World War => Topic started by: Arthur on March 11, 2019, 04:03:00 PM
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Frames and cover art now previewed :
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Alan Perry stated on FB that the set should be released next month for Salute if everything goes according to plan.
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Fabulous. How am I going to be able to resist... :'(
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Fabulous. How am I going to be able to resist... :'(
The answer's exceedingly simple : you won't be able to :D
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That’s what I’m afraid of! lol
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Fabulous. How am I going to be able to resist... :'(
I know I won't, I've been eyeing up a US platoon for CoC for some time, and since USMC would mean a whole new set of terrain, these guys are going to end up in sunny Italy :), where I will only have to build some new terrain, which can then be shared with Sharp Practice in the Peninsula.
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it looks like valiant miniature us troopers ;)
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Lovely work by Michael on the Americans.
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Sorry but I really do not like those poses.
They seem rather stilted compared with their others
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Sorry but I really do not like those poses.
They seem rather stilted compared with their others
The facebook page showed the whole range of poses, personally, I thought they were better than the Desert Rats ones, well thought out and very natural looking.
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Yup :
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Are they the same size as the Desert rats and Afrika Korps sets (ie 27mm tall)?
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Are they the same size as the Desert rats and Afrika Korps sets (ie 27mm tall)?
I had not noticed the previous figures being short compared to Warlord.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-p3oUl6qpacw/U0wykTrAIZI/AAAAAAAAAr0/eIQbDQOUOnk/s1600/ww2scale.png)
Warlord BEF comparison (yes it was a Warlord figure).
http://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.com/2013/01/british-expeditionary-force-1940-part.html (http://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.com/2013/01/british-expeditionary-force-1940-part.html)
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Are they the same size as the Desert rats and Afrika Korps sets (ie 27mm tall)?
We'll have to wait another month to answer that question as the set won't be out until Salute but so far the Perry WW2 figures have been very consistent size-wise so there's no reason why these should be taller or bulkier than the rest of the range, which was designed to fit 1:56 vehicles.
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Really nice.
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Looking forward to these and the metals to support them!
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It would be nice though if Perrys would round off some of their existing ranges of WW2 before doing their usual habit of moving onto another one. I'm thinking of the Italians specifically. ???
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From what I have seen so far, these seem to be some of the best WWII US infantry figures in any scale. Not going to be buying them myself, but I am looking forward to what people like Captain Blood will be able to do with these.
Also, according to the info posted by the Perrys, there will be 42 figures per box (2 command sprues and 3 grunt sprues), so you will be easily able to do a whole infantry platoon of 41 men and still have 1 figure left over. Not quite enough for an armored infantry platoon, though (and there is no 60 mm mortar included).
And perhaps the release of these figures will inspire them to also revisit their other WWII ranges to put out e.g. some more Italians to defend the shores of the sunny Sicily.
Maybe it is time for a little walk in the sun?
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Frames and cover art now previewed :
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Alan Perry stated on FB that the set should be released next month for Salute if everything goes according to plan.
These look dull compared to their stellar 8th Army release.
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These look dull compared to their stellar 8th Army release.
I suspect we will have to agree to disagree on this.
In my opinion their WW2 figures have improved over the last six years.
2013
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2014
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Admittedly my skills have not improved ^__^.
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These look dull compared to their stellar 8th Army release.
Looking at the frames there are a lot more figures with bent legs than there are on the 8th army sprue. Most of the 8th army ones are walking and not very animated apart from the grenade thrower. Therefore bent legs = more dynamic in my book. :D
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Now up for pre order for 6th April.
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And the usual three box deal has a metal Patton personality figure and ADC as freebies :
(https://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/Big%20red%20one%20deal.jpg)
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Glad they did away with that silly separate helmet thingy. Without some surgery they never sat properly on any head. Added to that all soldiers looked bald and seemed to have an unhealthy preference for wearing their helmets without chinstraps... ::)
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Glad they did away with that silly separate helmet thingy. Without some surgery they never sat properly on any head. Added to that all soldiers looked bald and seemed to have an unhealthy preference for wearing their helmets without chinstraps... ::)
Too true.
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Regarding the headgear, there does not seem to be much in the way of options on this set: almost every head seems to be wearing M1 helmet, except for one in the command sprue with soft cap. Then again, this seems quite appropriate, since the US forces anywhere close to the front line tended to quite universally use it. In contrast, the Afrika Korps and Commonwealth forces in the North Africa tended to employ a wider selection of headgear.
That said, I would suggest taking care when removing the heads from the sprues - unlike many other plastic sets, this one seems to contain very few extra heads.
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This looks like a very nice kit, glad to see they went with separate heads. Would love to see another German set down the line for use in Italy.
Steve
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I've pre-ordered these, and very much looking forward to getting them. Other than the Japanese (and I am NOT building jungle terrain), the US are the last major combatant nation.. ok, no, I forgot the Italians.. oh well. I want them anyway.
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Glad they did away with that silly separate helmet thingy. Without some surgery they never sat properly on any head. Added to that all soldiers looked bald and seemed to have an unhealthy preference for wearing their helmets without chinstraps... ::)
Ah now that’s a pity. I hadn’t noticed that. I have to disagree with you there... I very much liked the separate headwear, it enabled me to create lots of different characters in jaunty caps and helmets. Just like you see in photos of the period...
I will miss that versatility in the American set :(
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/13/577_01_06_13_4_47_41_2.jpg)
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While I rather enjoyed your efforts on these kits Richard, I guess it‘s a classic case of „one man‘s meat is another man‘s poison“. It‘s the same with the cast on weapons in the more recent WG sets... I much prefer it as I hate glueing all those fiddly bits together, others hate it for it restricts the posability.
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After building the god awful Warlord 8th army box I think I'd be happy with separate helmets being the only real fit issue...instead of EVERYTHING not fitting.
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Versatility has its limits. :D
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Versatility is no excuse for poor quality.
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I was very excited to see these advertised, and pre ordered. I spent last night assembling the HQ and one squad. I was mildly disappointed with a couple of aspects.
1. The kneeling figures particularly, it's very difficult to get a good fit on the separate leg. I had to apply enough liquid cement to melt into the gaps and clamp them.
2. The variety of bits, is a bit disappointing, one of the advantages of plastic for me was adding extras and so on. Other than additional ammo pouches and bayonet scabbards, there's little else to customise these.
3. Not enough packs to do entire squads.
On the bright side, they are very nice minis and should paint up very well. When done it will be interesting to compare with the Warlord Games plastics.
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I’ ve painted these a week ago but didn’t post them here:
(https://i.ibb.co/HxXpz7h/D031-A141-7-F93-4960-8-FC5-A34953440658.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vQDvP1X)
What can I say..They are Perry WW2 plastics. I like the poses and the detail of the weapons. Not enough packs. The real let down are the heads tho. The faces look un-perrylike strange and the helmets are a little off as well. Damn. I was really hoping for a great kit as the Warlord one was a little let down as well.
I’d give it 7/10.
I actually am a bit frustrated :'(
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Reading the above comments has left me feeling disappointed when considering purchasing their plastic WW2 American.
I shall have to ponder about this a little more.
Thank you for your thoughts.
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Those look far better than the Warlord GI figures.
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Well, I’m the end it comes down to personal preference.
I don’t prefer one over the other. They each have their merits.
(https://i.ibb.co/K0NrMGy/970-D9072-817-E-4953-BA6-C-E3573615-B8-E2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/M28CYhN)
Cheers
Andy
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Nice painting.
The faces look human rather than a 'seventies action comic.
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Well, I’m the end it comes down to personal preference.
I don’t prefer one over the other. They each have their merits.
(https://i.ibb.co/K0NrMGy/970-D9072-817-E-4953-BA6-C-E3573615-B8-E2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/M28CYhN)
Cheers
Andy
The way you've finished them so well, I'm sure from a tabletop distance nobody would be able to tell the difference in manufacturer. Like your painting style.
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Has anyone else painted some up in the meantime?
(https://i.ibb.co/WcPhFtj/0-E665-BDB-6-FCB-4253-B5-CC-52-A83-DC651-B2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BgrpjNF)
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That's a lovely paint job. I have a platoon, that won't look so great but will be good enough. Will post pics when they are done.
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Has anyone else painted some up in the meantime?
(https://i.ibb.co/WcPhFtj/0-E665-BDB-6-FCB-4253-B5-CC-52-A83-DC651-B2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BgrpjNF)
No, we want you to paint them for us.
Nice work.
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They look pretty good to me. But I've decided I have far too much to do for now without branching out into Americans.
Like UVS, I certainly prefer the (relatively) naturalistic Perry style to the War Picture Library / Commando comic look of the Warlord figures. Like most of Warlord's WW2 output, they're just too cartoony for my taste. I prefer character over caricature :)
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While I'm not exactly known as a Perry-fanboy I couldn't withstand the temptation lol
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-LRIZh7z0REI/XMbHMhaw-8I/AAAAAAAAFH4/0tOWWNFFlS4AOY0CWF4gkqySO3vvRYCZACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_4629.png)
for a full review and my conclusion you may want to head over to my blog:
Moiterei's bunte Welt (https://moitereisbuntewelt.blogspot.com/2019/04/review-perry-miniatures-us-infantry.html)
@Richard:
I'm pretty sure that with the use of some spare parts fron their 8th Army and DAK sets you could create just as many poses extraordinaire as you did with the rest of your collection. Come on, you know you want these ;)
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I do, you're right - but I have so much to do and so little time to do it! lol
Great review. Thank you.
If these scale in so well with other 28mm ranges, that sounds as though Michael Perry has deliberately made these a bit bigger in size and stature, because the 'true 1/56 scale' 8th Army and DAK Perry sets were most definitely much smaller and slighter in build than regular 28mm wargames minaitures...
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I do, you're right - but I have so much to do and so little time to do it! lol
Great review. Thank you.
If these scale in so well with other 28mm ranges, that sounds as though Michael Perry has deliberately made these a bit bigger in size and stature, because the 'true 1/56 scale' 8th Army and DAK Perry sets were most definitely much smaller and slighter in build than regular 28mm wargames minaitures...
Maybe it‘s because they were on a Hamburger diet lol
On a more serious note, it‘d be interesting to see how they compare with say their 8th Army figures. I only have some of their Italians and they seem to be the same height.
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I'm currently nearly finished painting Perry's Lancia 3RO with the 90/53 on the back. I'm also painting the gun crew for the Semovente 90/53 to use with an 88mm flak. I assume they were sculpted by the same person, but if you put the crews side by side the difference in size, namely their width, is quite noticeable. Either Lancia gun crews put on weight because they travelled everywhere in the lorry, :D or perhaps the Italians in Sicily were on a poor diet, but the Semovente crew are about 1/3 thinner than the stockily built Lancia crew, it's very noticeable.
I wondered if a bit of scalecreep was beginning to appear in the Perry's work when you mentioned how the Americans are looking rather well fed . I have a box of the Yanks but haven't got around to opening it yet to compare them with the DAK/8th Army
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One remark please - did anyone else notice the somehow strange position of the kneeling sniper on p. 1? If you are a right-hand shooter - what this fellow obviously is - your left leg is in front in a kneeling position, not the right...I mean...left would be right and in this case right is wrong... o_o
Cheers
Fedja
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One remark please - did anyone else notice the somehow strange position of the kneeling sniper on p. 1? If you are a right-hand shooter - what this fellow obviously is - your left leg is in front in a kneeling position, not the right...I mean...left would be right and in this case right is wrong... o_o
Cheers
Fedja
I see what you mean - the pics of assembled models. Looking at the sprue there seems to be an option for a right-knee kneeler (and plenty of left-knee kneelers), which has been assembled here as a sniper for some reason. Perhaps he's twisting slightly to lean the rifle onto something to be added later - a low wall, a sandbag or something. But yeah, it's a bit unusual.
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Nice review moiterei_1984 and also a very useful painting guide!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Excellent review, moiterei_1984.
Thanks for taking the time to write it up.