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Title: What ACW rules are you using?
Post by: Terrible Tim on 14 June 2009, 09:03:14 AM
What rules do people use to play ACW? I have John Reb III rules (had them for years) but I have never played them. They look complex and a little dated by modern systems, IMHO. What other rules are available for ACW?

I may use a modified LOTOW if I can not find something else.

Thanks for your input.
TT.
Title: Re: What ACW rules are you using?
Post by: itchy on 14 June 2009, 09:31:22 AM
I use brother v brother for 28mm large scale skirmish and polemos for 6mm large battles . For 15mmI used to use johnny reb they were great but were complex I cant recall the name off hand but the peter pig acw rules are very good for large quick games i dont own theem but have playerd them a few times.
Title: Re: What ACW rules are you using?
Post by: whisperin_al on 14 June 2009, 10:31:03 AM
The key question is what scale of actions you are trying to represent.

My favoured rules for the large scale actions are Fire & Fury.  I know some people don't think they're detailed enough or like the base removal but I have yet to find another set which is as easy to pick up and yet provides the right feel.
Title: Re: What ACW rules are you using?
Post by: matakishi on 14 June 2009, 11:50:12 AM
Fire and Fury every time for big games. Principles of War for smaller actions.
Title: Re: What ACW rules are you using?
Post by: Glitzer on 14 June 2009, 12:39:38 PM
I use Brother against Brother a simple skirmish game with a lot of potential. It's based on poker card drawing and battles are about company size (50 to 100 models per side)
Title: Re: What ACW rules are you using?
Post by: Barry S on 14 June 2009, 02:52:22 PM
I use Brother Against Brother for my ACW games as I've just never managed to get enough figures painted...

I own Fire and Fury, both JRII and JRIII and downloaded a copy of Honour and Glory.

Title: Re: What ACW rules are you using?
Post by: Cory on 14 June 2009, 04:33:15 PM
For 15mm we always come back to JRII. It is complex and is focused on combat a level down from Fire and Fury, but still by and far my favorite.

For 28mm we usually focus on skirmishes using Brother against Brother or a system I wrote a few years back.
Title: Re: What ACW rules are you using?
Post by: fastolfrus on 14 June 2009, 04:55:55 PM
For 28mm skirmish, usually Brother against Brother.

For larger actions, we have Fire & Fury, and an unused copy of JR, but usually use the Peter Pig rules "Civil War battles" :

http://www.peterpig.co.uk/Range2.htm

Title: Re: What ACW rules are you using?
Post by: TMcNulty on 14 June 2009, 10:27:13 PM
28MM Skirmish, Brother against Brother
15MM Brigade level, large games, Fire & Fury
28MM Regimental, played JRII (lost my copy), Looking to try Crusaders Rank & File

If anyone has a copy of JRII they would like to part with let me know?
Title: Re: What ACW rules are you using?
Post by: Sendak on 15 June 2009, 01:23:09 AM
Fire & Fury; 15mm large to medium games.

LoTOW; 25mm scenario based skirmish.

Some also use TSaTF, but not regularly.
Title: Re: What ACW rules are you using?
Post by: Remgain on 15 June 2009, 07:47:03 AM
Fire & Fury
Title: Re: What ACW rules are you using?
Post by: Terrible Tim on 15 June 2009, 11:26:02 AM
Thanks for all the feed back. I am thinking of starting 28mm ACW for small or skirmish games (30 to 60 minis a side). As I mentioned I have RebIII, which is just too out dated by today's gaming standards, IMHO. The more I think about it, the more I think LOTOW slightly modified will probably suit me at the moment (no money to out lay as I have all the books). I will look into the games systems already mentioned.
I have also been thinking about modifying Warmaster Ancient rules to play 10 or 15mm ACW. I think it would make for a fast and fun game.

Now to get some Perry ACW minis.  :)

TT.
Title: Re: What ACW rules are you using?
Post by: Cory on 15 June 2009, 03:32:53 PM
TMcNulty,  Ibelieve the Johnny Reb company still has some JRII copies in the back if you contact them.
Title: Re: What ACW rules are you using?
Post by: Glitzer on 15 June 2009, 05:49:12 PM
Wasn't there a rumour going around about a Warhammer Historical ACW ruleset? Has anyone heard something about that project again?
Title: Re: What ACW rules are you using?
Post by: Terrible Tim on 16 June 2009, 01:01:42 PM
For larger actions, we have Fire & Fury, and an unused copy of JR, but usually use the Peter Pig rules "Civil War battles" :

http://www.peterpig.co.uk/Range2.htm

Peter Pig 15mm ACW have a surprising amount of detail.
Title: Re: What ACW rules are you using?
Post by: Terrible Tim on 16 June 2009, 01:13:18 PM
Wasn't there a rumour going around about a Warhammer Historical ACW ruleset? Has anyone heard something about that project again?

I asked the same question on the WAB forum a few days ago, but I believe that it was only a rumour. There is a French version of ACW WAB, it appeared in a French gaming magazine. The download link:
http://rathelot.olympe-network.com/Site/Telechargements.html (http://rathelot.olympe-network.com/Site/Telechargements.html)

or try the Yahoo group:
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WHACW/ (http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WHACW/)

TT.
Title: Re: What ACW rules are you using?
Post by: Lowtardog on 16 June 2009, 01:50:06 PM
Fire and Fury for large games and I would look at the Crusader Rank and File for 6 - 10 units (WAB size) "Rank and File" for smaller games
Title: Re: What ACW rules are you using?
Post by: Barry S on 16 June 2009, 01:59:06 PM
Wasn't there a rumour going around about a Warhammer Historical ACW ruleset? Has anyone heard something about that project again?

Wargames Illustrated also printed an article set of ACW rules by Paul Stevenson using Warhammer Fantasy in 3 sections. October 2004 (issue #205) had the basic rules, whilst
November 2004 (issue #206) has the Union lists and December 2004 (issue #207) has the Confederate list.
Title: Re: What ACW rules are you using?
Post by: Terrible Tim on 17 June 2009, 10:46:34 AM
Wasn't there a rumour going around about a Warhammer Historical ACW ruleset? Has anyone heard something about that project again?

Wargames Illustrated also printed an article set of ACW rules by Paul Stevenson using Warhammer Fantasy in 3 sections. October 2004 (issue #205) had the basic rules, whilst
November 2004 (issue #206) has the Union lists and December 2004 (issue #207) has the Confederate list.

You can find these Wargames Illustrated files on this Yahoo group:
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WHACW/ (http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WHACW/)

TT.
Title: Re: What ACW rules are you using?
Post by: Glitzer on 22 June 2009, 03:49:25 PM
Another group to join. Thank you TT