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Miniatures Adventure => The Conflicts that came in from the Cold => Topic started by: Suetonius Paullinus on 27 July 2019, 10:40:05 PM
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In preparation for the soon to be released Korea expansion.
Kit bashed from the BA USMC, Airborne and US Infantry plastic sets:
(https://i.ibb.co/TM7zSgp/78-BA812-B-3-F36-41-F2-A23-A-917-B7-D9-F8-AB5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hF4pjmh)
Cheers
Andy
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Very nice brushwork and great kitbashing! :)
Might have to steal that kitbashing idea. Though I am still hoping for the release of some USMC in winter gear.
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Very nicely painted.
As an historical aside, the USMC, like much of the rest of the US armed forces was still in the process of desegregation. The number of black marines was tiny post WW2 and the Marines actively forced out black marines, offering them the demeaning choice of working as mess stewards or being discharged. Even though they had commenced integrated recruit training in 1949, racially mixed combat units weren’t authorised until 1952, the penultimate year of the conflict.
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I was under the impression reinforcements were sent wherever needed regardless of race and the men where to busy to stay alive to worry about the colour of their skin.
Interesting topic and I clearly need to look into this more!
My unit is mixed tho 💪
(https://i.ibb.co/bsjX141/BE07-F589-3-A12-4-AB6-9879-E43-DE623-C0-A6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/v3Ck1N1)
(https://i.ibb.co/tzk2yj0/BDB9-CBDF-294-F-41-F7-92-A5-D80-CDC56-A625.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
Here the to Afro American Marines:
(https://i.ibb.co/z6KmF0D/2289-F3-F4-1-DB7-47-DC-A678-5-F8-F1-A7-E8-F07.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hYpgctw)
And the Sarge and the last of the ten men squad:
(https://i.ibb.co/N9nztZF/226-C459-F-BA92-4775-8059-07-E12-BE8-C510.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1rJx780)
Cheers
Andy
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"I was under the impression reinforcements were sent wherever needed regardless of race and the men where to busy to stay alive to worry about the colour of their skin"
The men may well have been but institutional racism ran deep in the US Armed Forces and the US in general. During WW2, where arguably the manpower need was much greater, black marines were assigned to combat support functions, engineering and construction work for the most part. The Marines were among the most resistant of the services to racial integration and that goes all the way back through their history. It's a sad story actually.
As I said things started to change under Truman but the executive order requiring desegregation had only come into effect in 1948 and the USMC seems to have been very slow in implementing it, as they had been with an earlier order under Roosevelt. Were there black marines who fought in Korea? Yes but in small numbers. At the outbreak of the war, they represented about four percent of the USMC's total strength and that rose to about six percent by the end of the war. For the first half of the war it would not be uncommon for there to be one black marine to a whole company.
If you are interested, you'll find quite a bit of interest here:
https://www.marines.mil/Portals/1/Publications/Blacks%20in%20the%20Marine%20Corps%20%20PCN%2019000306200_3.pdf
Even the USMC admits some of its failings and to be fair the institutional malaise and awful treatment meted out to many African Americans was paralleled in the US Army, which still had all white and all black units in Korea, despite desegregation being official policy. There were also the vile examples of racism like the desertion/AWOL charges filed against members of the all black 24th Infantry in 1950.
It was somewhat different with Asian and Hispanic Americans, they tended to be integrated in combat arms.
It's good you've included some black marines, hopefully it's a talking point for games.
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Nice conversions too btw.
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Liking the look of your devildogs. They will work good for thr Puson fight and inchon.
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Nice conversions and painting.
As Carlos said, something that needs discussion.
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Thank you for your replies :)
The complete squad
(https://i.ibb.co/whkbwP9/4-A41828-E-1127-4-C7-E-AA00-D78613-BF8965.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qYS4Wct)
Cheers
Andy
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Very nice paint job.
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Thanks Ash!
(https://i.ibb.co/92VfyDJ/F0063-C3-E-2-AC5-4255-A20-C-1003-EFD97-C1-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tcxNYGS)
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(https://i.ibb.co/m6K9CWt/FFEC72-B7-ED61-4-CCD-81-E7-7-A87930-C468-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wMqSNmC)
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Nice painting.
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Nice kitbashing!
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One of the Chosin few:
(https://i.ibb.co/RpZsWqb/43029-AED-4660-4280-A322-BE3-B5-AC2239-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WWqM1L5)
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Also pretty cool!
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Excellent, great painting; cool comment...
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Thanks all!
(https://i.ibb.co/gtp1sfh/14635-D72-CA18-497-B-AD28-4-AB666-EC1052.jpg) (https://ibb.co/MP4TqtQ)
Cheers
Andy
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Three more:
(https://i.ibb.co/3smYG4T/7-EF61-D00-3924-4101-9-E2-E-F4-CE55249-E25.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xsq8PX2)
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And another one..
(https://i.ibb.co/RCstWJN/DFC4-FE97-3-D38-4-AC2-85-C9-3-A9-C3-C4-E0684.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cNZRdsw)
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Nice work.
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Absolutely gorgeous work as always mate.
Can't wait to see your work on the Communists!
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Thanks guys!
Communists are coming, no worries. Although I would ya e preferred plastics tbh.
Anyhow, here the next marine:
(https://i.ibb.co/ZfdsfMC/61-FF1084-0-E1-F-4-C18-888-D-2-BCC3-BF023-B8.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2Fq2FkB)
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I'm quite partial to metals myself actually! :P
The Koreans and Chinese will be used for a mix of Socialist (I)regulars for my VBCW as well as communists for Malaya.
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Those really came out well! What colors/techniques did you use?
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Those are beautiful! Can’t wait to see more