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Title: More Landsknechts with contrast paints
Post by: jtipp68 on 10 October 2019, 09:36:19 PM
I wanted to show off some Perry Landsknechts I've painted with contrast paints.  I did highlight with reg paints though but that's it.  I really enjoy the contrast paints, I get base colors down very quickly and easily with much less waste since I'm coming right out of the pot.  I have 40 more advancing that I'm working on along with around 20 shot. 
Title: Re: More Landsknechts with contrast paints
Post by: Blackwolf on 10 October 2019, 09:38:28 PM
They look great!
Title: Re: More Landsknechts with contrast paints
Post by: Metternich on 10 October 2019, 10:17:27 PM
Beautiful paint jobs.
Title: Re: More Landsknechts with contrast paints
Post by: Kitsune on 10 October 2019, 11:06:23 PM
Nicely done. How many is that total? Quicker with contrast paint?
Title: Re: More Landsknechts with contrast paints
Post by: jtipp68 on 11 October 2019, 01:53:33 AM
It’s 40 pike and 8 “command”.  The base coats where over a white undercoat and went on super fast.  If I wasn’t selling these I would’ve happily stopped before highlighting, they looked great.  They’re expensive but there’s something to be said for ease of attainability and use.

Thanks for the positive comments.

Here’s the next group ready to start:
Title: Re: More Landsknechts with contrast paints
Post by: Poiter50 on 11 October 2019, 01:59:49 AM
Are your temporary basing sticks colour coded to help with colour selection?
Title: Re: More Landsknechts with contrast paints
Post by: jtipp68 on 11 October 2019, 02:11:43 AM
Ha! I wish I was that organized.  I went to the dollar store and that’s all they had.
Title: Re: More Landsknechts with contrast paints
Post by: Poiter50 on 11 October 2019, 02:16:10 AM
 lol lol lol

Ha! I wish I was that organized.  I went to the dollar stair and that’s all they had.
Title: Re: More Landsknechts with contrast paints
Post by: Atheling on 12 October 2019, 08:30:08 AM
I'm not familiar with contrast paints i.e. I haven't used them.

If I were to send you a list of GW Citadel approximate colours to the Vallejo/Andrea that I normally use would you be able to make any recommendations as to which Citadel contrast paint would be the best to apply over the top please?
Title: Re: More Landsknechts with contrast paints
Post by: jtipp68 on 12 October 2019, 02:44:35 PM
I’m not sure that I would know the answers.  I have about 8 pots that I’ve been playing around with.   Also, maybe I’m reading your question wrong, but the contrast paints are designed to go over a white/bone/grey prime coat    If you we’re going to use them like a wash over a base coat they would need to be thinned considerably due to the high amount of pigment in the paint.
Title: Re: More Landsknechts with contrast paints
Post by: Atheling on 12 October 2019, 03:55:44 PM
Right, I've just watched a vid on YouTube and realised that they act as a sort of base layer and a wash (mean't to be a highlight) so please ignore my last question.  :D

Thinking logically, I'm getting the impression that matching the contrast colour to a lighter base colour would produce better results then just painting it over white?
Title: Re: More Landsknechts with contrast paints
Post by: Atheling on 12 October 2019, 04:13:25 PM
I’m not sure that I would know the answers.  I have about 8 pots that I’ve been playing around with.   Also, maybe I’m reading your question wrong, but the contrast paints are designed to go over a white/bone/grey prime coat    If you we’re going to use them like a wash over a base coat they would need to be thinned considerably due to the high amount of pigment in the paint.

I think I'm going top experiment a bit with my idea. I find the contrast over just white too garish.

It does work very well on your Landsknechts (of which I'll have well over a hundred to paint soon), almost certainly because they have so many folds in the cloth and creases in the armours.



Title: Re: More Landsknechts with contrast paints
Post by: Malatesta on 12 October 2019, 04:50:52 PM
Nicely done. I have about 400+ landsknechts to paint (and more on the way). I was experimenting with contrast paints and they really seem to speed up painting. I highlight a bit with regular Vallejo paints, etc., even mixing them a bit for variety. Also, I have been working on mid to late 15th century Italians ("Condottieri") with some good results using Contrast paints. Good luck!
Title: Re: More Landsknechts with contrast paints
Post by: jtipp68 on 12 October 2019, 05:50:47 PM
I tend to be a dark, muted painter so I was really drawn to the contrast paints to really pop color on the garish landsknechts.

I think the best part of the paints is the ease and quickness that they go on.  If i was a gamer I would have no problem stopping after applying the one coat.  The highlight was really mainly for resale. 
Title: Re: More Landsknechts with contrast paints
Post by: Atheling on 12 October 2019, 06:09:57 PM
I tend to be a dark, muted painter so I was really drawn to the contrast paints to really pop color on the garish landsknechts.

I think the best part of the paints is the ease and quickness that they go on.  If i was a gamer I would have no problem stopping after applying the one coat.  The highlight was really mainly for resale.

I have en eye to putting on a demo game of the Battle of Ravenna so it's got to be a technique that looks the part. As yours do once they are highlighted.

TBH, I can't stand the thought of just putting one layer of contrast paint and then leaving it at that. I think I spent too many years being extremely anal about my painting!! I've had a hiatus of four or five years out of the hobby so I was hoping to find a middle way but one where I could still get impressive results. I'm friends with some of the best historical painters around so there's been no shortage of help, hints and encouragement.
Title: Re: More Landsknechts with contrast paints
Post by: Hu Rhu on 16 October 2019, 02:33:29 PM
They look great.  Any chance of a tutorial for those like me who have never used them?
Title: Re: More Landsknechts with contrast paints
Post by: jtipp68 on 16 October 2019, 10:26:43 PM
I have a whole tray of Landsknecht pike and shot that's only been primed white.  I'll take some pics as I go if there's interest.
Title: Re: More Landsknechts with contrast paints
Post by: HappyChappy439 on 16 October 2019, 11:34:38 PM
I have a whole tray of Landsknecht pike and shot that's only been primed white.  I'll take some pics as I go if there's interest.

I'd definitely be interested to see it at least!
Title: Re: More Landsknechts with contrast paints
Post by: Atheling on 17 October 2019, 08:52:17 AM
I'd definitely be interested to see it at least!

Me too!
Title: Re: More Landsknechts with contrast paints
Post by: Leman on 17 October 2019, 09:20:53 PM
Always up for seeing others’ interpretation of Landsknecht colours and colour mixes.
Title: Re: More Landsknechts with contrast paints
Post by: abu iskander on 18 October 2019, 01:33:20 AM
I'm curious too. Will be interested to see your process.

I came across this video in the meantime, which is quite thorough. Worth watching, IMO, to get a handle on how to use the CP in a more sophistacged way:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5643&v=jla40wPw7_U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5643&v=jla40wPw7_U)
Title: Re: More Landsknechts with contrast paints
Post by: olicana on 19 October 2019, 11:22:22 PM
Well done in getting so much painted so quickly.

Your approach has it's merits. My approach is somewhat different but, end results tell.
Title: Re: More Landsknechts with contrast paints
Post by: Gallahad on 20 October 2019, 05:54:30 PM
Those look great. Landsknecht puff and slash clothing is a natural fit for contrast paints.
Title: Re: More Landsknechts with contrast paints
Post by: Timotl on 20 October 2019, 06:00:55 PM
Those look excellent! Using contrast paints is a brilliant idea for the puffy clothes, all that nice detail for the paint to settle into. I can't believe you paint 40 at a time! Anyway, top stuff, love it! :-*
Title: Re: More Landsknechts with contrast paints
Post by: jtipp68 on 20 October 2019, 06:27:39 PM
Here’s flesh with guilliman flesh