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Miniatures Adventure => Age of Myths, Gods and Empires => Topic started by: Ragnar on 04 January 2020, 10:43:25 PM

Title: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Ragnar on 04 January 2020, 10:43:25 PM: All Eureka, 28mm.

(https://imgur.com/ZobTRdc.jpg)
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Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Ragnar on 04 January 2020, 10:47:46 PM: Err, now my imgur links aren't working. >:(

Edit: they didn't have the .jpg extension. ;D
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Post by: Andrei1975 on 05 January 2020, 01:19:59 AM: Very beautiful work. My congratulations!
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Post by: von Lucky on 05 January 2020, 03:11:09 AM: They look sexy. What rules are you thinking of using?
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Post by: Ragnar on 05 January 2020, 04:04:57 AM: Cheers lads.

@Von Lucky; currently, Triumph and Tragedy with the WSS (61) article on the Trojan war or Lion Rampant with the WSS (82) Chariot rampant variant.
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Post by: Burnin Coal on 05 January 2020, 07:45:20 AM: Very nice brushwork...I especially like the line of armoured figures
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Post by: Mad Doc Morris on 05 January 2020, 09:37:46 AM: Quote from: Ragnar on 05 January 2020, 04:04:57 AM
Triumph and Tragedy with the WSS (61) article on the Trojan war

Wow, been ages since we devised these amendments for our game at Hamburg Tactica… 2012? o_o Pleased to know that someone gives them a try. :)
A very fine force so far, very well painted. The reins on the chariot are a nice touch.
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Ragnar on 05 January 2020, 10:20:52 AM: Thanks for the compliments, gents.

@Mad Doc, any game photos from 2012 online? Also curious about unit sizes since I haven't played T&T yet.
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Post by: Irregular Wars Nic on 05 January 2020, 12:26:38 PM: Those are lovely!
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Post by: Warboss Nick on 05 January 2020, 05:36:36 PM: Very nice work indeed!
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Post by: Ragnar on 05 January 2020, 09:49:56 PM: Thanks chaps.
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Mad Doc Morris on 05 January 2020, 10:04:42 PM: Quote from: Ragnar on 05 January 2020, 10:20:52 AM
@Mad Doc, any game photos from 2012 online? Also curious about unit sizes since I haven't played T&T yet.

Only a couple here (http://www.hamburger-tactica.de/alt/tactica/img/fotos_2012/Troja/gallery.html). We never got round to taking photos ourselves – obviously too busy game-mastering. :D Seeing the table now (which was done in a hurry just the night before), we had better looking games thereafter…
Re unit sizes, IIRC the article provides our warbands as samples. We used four to ten or twelve men per 'squad', but you can go bigger with T&T.
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Ragnar on 05 January 2020, 10:13:51 PM: Quote from: Mad Doc Morris on 05 January 2020, 10:04:42 PM
Only a couple here (http://www.hamburger-tactica.de/alt/tactica/img/fotos_2012/Troja/gallery.html). We never got round to taking photos ourselves – obviously too busy game-mastering. :D Seeing the table now (which was done in a hurry just the night before), we had better looking games thereafter…
Re unit sizes, IIRC the article provides our warbands as samples. We used four to ten or twelve men per 'squad', but you can go bigger with T&T.

Awesome, thanks Doc
Title: Re: Achaean/Mycenaean project - small update
Post by: Ragnar on 02 April 2020, 11:13:55 AM: The first of the spearmen roll of the line. 28mm Redoubt.

(https://i.imgur.com/1CT0ZYq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/eRUU4fr.jpg)
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Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: pogo on 02 April 2020, 12:01:42 PM: can I ask, what are you using for the reins on the chariot ?
Alex
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Ragnar on 02 April 2020, 12:19:04 PM: Quote from: pogo on 02 April 2020, 12:01:42 PM
can I ask, what are you using for the reins on the chariot ?
Alex

Ah, glad you asked. :) It's standard copy paper cut into thin strips, super glued in place. I then run super glue over all of the reins, so it soaks in. I *hope* this will be provide a strong enough model if used with care.
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: DintheDin on 02 April 2020, 03:27:04 PM: Quote from: Ragnar on 02 April 2020, 12:19:04 PM
Ah, glad you asked. :) It's standard copy paper cut into thin strips, super glued in place. I then run super glue over all of the reins, so it soaks in. I *hope* this will be provide a strong enough model if used with care.

Very inspiring idea!
Your work is top notch! Neatly painted figures and I like how you made the hide on the shields and the wood grain! Cheers!
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Post by: Ragnar on 02 April 2020, 08:55:49 PM: Thanks Din!
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Post by: Marine0846 on 03 April 2020, 02:24:35 AM: Love your figures.
Look forward to seeing more.
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Post by: DivisMal on 03 April 2020, 07:23:37 AM: Those ox-hide shields are really ace painted! And from your pictures, I must say that I rather like the Redoubt models. On their HP the figures don’t look that good.
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Ragnar on 03 April 2020, 08:27:29 AM: Thanks gents.
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Ragnar on 04 April 2020, 11:27:16 PM: Another small update, finanly finished this small group of spearmen. 28mm Redoubt

(https://i.imgur.com/d4KgkPt.jpg)
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Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: marianas_gamer on 05 April 2020, 12:53:22 AM: Very nicely done on those spearmen :-* I really like the shields!
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Ragnar on 05 April 2020, 02:06:00 AM: Quote from: marianas_gamer on 05 April 2020, 12:53:22 AM
Very nicely done on those spearmen :-* I really like the shields!

Thank you sir!
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Ragnar on 24 April 2020, 03:51:25 AM: Another Achaean chariot. 28mm miniatures by Eureka from the Bronze Age Greeks range

(https://i.imgur.com/nvcrHCp.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/2m213uA.jpg)
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Post by: Tonhel on 24 April 2020, 10:05:59 AM: Very nice!
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Post by: DintheDin on 24 April 2020, 10:06:39 AM: Excellent paint jobs and great pics!
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Post by: Ragnar on 24 April 2020, 10:32:48 AM: Thanks chaps. :)
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Post by: Burnin Coal on 24 April 2020, 11:16:54 AM: Quote from: DintheDin on 24 April 2020, 10:06:39 AM
Excellent paint jobs and great pics!

I’ll second that....great project too
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Post by: Bloggard on 24 April 2020, 11:20:00 AM: great face on the chariot driver!
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Post by: Ragnar on 24 April 2020, 11:33:39 AM: thanks for the compliments. :)
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Post by: von Lucky on 28 April 2020, 12:43:27 PM: Lovely wood details (chariots and spears). Well, lovely overall.
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Ragnar on 29 April 2020, 11:31:48 AM: Cheers mate. :)
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Post by: Corso on 10 May 2020, 02:39:25 PM: Really like this project :-*

Love the painting especially the animal hide - looks so natural!
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Post by: Ragnar on 10 May 2020, 09:31:47 PM: Thanks Corso.
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Post by: Eoin OCnaimhsi on 11 May 2020, 11:07:34 AM: Fantastic painting.

The redoubt spearmen seem really nice.
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Ragnar on 07 March 2021, 11:36:17 PM: Thanks Eoin.

The latest addition to the Mycenaean/Achaean warband. 28mm minis by Eureka and Redoubt Enterprises.
And a photo of the warband.
(https://i.imgur.com/SEUQdM7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/gEkdIuN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PuLOsrl.jpg)
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Post by: Hu Rhu on 08 March 2021, 01:45:43 PM: Very nice painting.
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Jjonas on 08 March 2021, 07:55:04 PM: Quote from: Ragnar on 02 April 2020, 12:19:04 PM
Ah, glad you asked. :) It's standard copy paper cut into thin strips, super glued in place. I then run super glue over all of the reins, so it soaks in. I *hope* this will be provide a strong enough model if used with care.

I like these, well done.
As for reins of working game figures. My old solution was to cut up old lead paint tubes. Flatten then cut into strips. But now that is harder to find.
Now I use foil from wine bottle covers, flattened and burnished. But now I don't do wine, so that's out.
I'm looking for a hobby solution since I need to do some reins.
In my area paper infused with glue always breaks down over time to the coastal climate and super dry periods. I have tried white glue, super glue, and various clear coats with limited success. The metal one stay around. They may come unattached but they don't dissolve entirely.

Linked is an example of lead sheet reins.
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Ragnar on 09 March 2021, 09:01:30 AM: Thanks for the comments chaps.

Jjonas; thanks for the tips, some more to think about.
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Jjonas on 09 March 2021, 05:36:44 PM: Just a quick photo of the process:

Burnish the wine bottle foil.
Tape an edge and cut into 1mm (or so) strips.

The end result is a bendable strap that can be placed, glued, and holds its shape.

I prime with gloss white to give these real solid base.

I intend to write this up fo the website soon. But this is about as complicated as it gets. The great part is one can glue the ends on the blind sides, you don't need knots, and they stay stuck. Also a good technique for adding sword straps and flaps to figures. There I like to fill in with white glue to give it paintable depth.
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Jjonas on 09 March 2021, 11:00:14 PM: Here is a method using dental floss:

https://www.relicminiatures.com/2018/06/14/seleucid-chariot-project/?fbclid=IwAR2PD04CRTmi6BZ9mzc30k_ny-i6U1Q-RXPSrVQ9fulGzaP8dssXzo0CIKo
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Post by: Fremitus Borealis on 10 March 2021, 07:05:57 PM: I was just thinking about doing some horse reins and weapon straps, so this is good timing for me! :D I was thinking of trying bread ties.
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Post by: Irregular Wars Nic on 11 March 2021, 05:26:12 PM: Great looking warband there!
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Post by: Ragnar on 11 March 2021, 07:52:38 PM: Thanks Nic!
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Post by: Ragnar on 09 February 2022, 01:24:26 AM: Finally got to use the warband last weekend.

"Raiding parties of the enigmatic Sea People had been seen making landings in Mycenaean territory. The Wanax Demonax sallied forth from his stronghold to deal with the threat. Two ferocious battles were fought before the raiders were either slaughtered or pushed back into the sea, victory each time to Demonax the Destroyer, increasing his prestige and power... but not without cost."

(https://i.imgur.com/cX5krnS.jpg)
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Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: SJWi on 09 February 2022, 05:35:01 AM: Ragnar, very nice. What rules were you using?

Cheers.
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Ragnar on 09 February 2022, 07:55:06 AM: Quote from: SJWi on 09 February 2022, 05:35:01 AM
Ragnar, very nice. What rules were you using?

Cheers.

Oops, would have been handy to mention the rules. We used the Chariot Rampant addons to Lion Rampant.

Thanks for the comments. :)
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Post by: tikitang on 09 February 2022, 11:11:40 AM: Very nice!

Those are Newline Designs Sea People, am I right?
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Ragnar on 10 February 2022, 12:59:02 AM: Quote from: tikitang on 09 February 2022, 11:11:40 AM
Very nice!

Those are Newline Designs Sea People, am I right?

Yes mate, I believe they are.
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: DivisMal on 16 May 2022, 05:49:10 AM: I see, I am late for the party, but that still looks marvelous!
Can the Chariots Rampant rules be found online?
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Ragnar on 16 May 2022, 07:35:52 AM: Thanks DivisMal.

As far as I know, the addon rules are only available through buying Wargames Soldiers and Strategy issue 82, which you can get in PDF from Karwansaray publishing.
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Post by: DivisMal on 16 May 2022, 04:16:38 PM: Quote from: Ragnar on 16 May 2022, 07:35:52 AM
Thanks DivisMal.

As far as I know, the addon rules are only available through buying Wargames Soldiers and Strategy issue 82, which you can get in PDF from Karwansaray publishing.

Okay, thanks. I just found them. Since it’s a pdf, it won’t take weeks to arrive and customs and handling fee.

I am tempted!