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Miniatures Adventure => Age of the Big Battalions => Topic started by: Scrubber on 11 April 2020, 02:28:35 PM

Title: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan. Wanted British at rest
Post by: Scrubber on 11 April 2020, 02:28:35 PM

So in an effect to encourage David. Having already beat him once in napoleonic challenge with my Austrians. Here goes with the British.

Progress will be slow because everything through watery haze. I’m allergic to tree pollen at this time of year. So eyes look like extra from zombie flick.

Period Peninsula War. Army fictional.

I’ve had this first unit painted and stuck on bases for a while. Need some guidance and inspiration on finishing the bases.

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan
Post by: Digits on 11 April 2020, 02:33:54 PM

They look horrible mate!    Oops...watery hazy eyes.....they look great! Lol

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Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan
Post by: Scrubber on 11 April 2020, 02:38:19 PM

Painted these before you abandoned me.  lol

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan
Post by: has.been on 11 April 2020, 04:40:09 PM

Scrubber, come south. We have many nice games & gamers.
Digits has been assimilated, sorry welcomed, to the Midlands collective.

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan
Post by: Digits on 11 April 2020, 05:07:40 PM

Yup, been telling him to move nearer me!

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan
Post by: SABOT on 11 April 2020, 11:35:20 PM

Terrific job on those. 👍

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan
Post by: Harry Faversham on 12 April 2020, 04:50:22 AM

Excellent, just how His Grace's Infantry should look, look even better with red and white plumes for the centre company chappies.

(https://www.forces.net/sites/default/files/styles/cover_image/public/The%20attack%20by%20Leith%27s%205th%20Division.jpg?itok=UUFlryzg)

 ;)

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan
Post by: Scrubber on 14 April 2020, 01:43:42 PM

Thankyou Mr Faversham.

Base on left original. New one on right. Used brighter red and brought it higher up the plume.

Just need to decide how I can finish the bases. Do like those shown in the Albion book.
From the picture though I do have some dried grass to add to bases.

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan
Post by: Digits on 14 April 2020, 02:17:53 PM

Plumes a little more eye catching, nice one.

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan
Post by: Digits on 15 April 2020, 07:56:29 PM

Sorry Brian, are these the ones you said you would sell ?  Don’t do that, they are great!  Proper storage will protect those bayonets if that’s your concern! 

Indeed, if I find the ones I like, I will have firing French.

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan
Post by: Baron von Wreckedoften on 16 April 2020, 10:31:38 AM

Nice work (be aware that mounted officers usually wore a bicorne during the "stove pipe era", rather than a stove pipe as per the painting).

Now, do we have to read this thread in an Eddie Waring accent?

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan
Post by: has.been on 16 April 2020, 11:13:17 AM

In an Eddie Waring accent?
That really would be...
'A minnneeee mara-thaaaan!'

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan
Post by: Scrubber on 16 April 2020, 11:36:53 AM

Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan is a Mike Harding poem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxAvEjmLUiE

Thanks Baron. Made mental note of that.

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan
Post by: Scrubber on 16 April 2020, 11:57:23 AM

Found jar of Vallejo earth texture.

Here is my first attempt. Think maybe needs a dry brush of light mud or sand.

These are the figures thinking of selling on as bayonet sticks out over front of base.

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan
Post by: SABOT on 16 April 2020, 01:15:57 PM

Looking good.

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan
Post by: has.been on 16 April 2020, 01:57:54 PM

Bill Tidy, there is a blast from the past. Used to love the 'Cloggies'.

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan
Post by: flatpack on 16 April 2020, 02:06:20 PM

Not Bang Tidy ?
Or is that something else ?
 :o

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan
Post by: has.been on 16 April 2020, 02:10:34 PM

Definitely Bill Tidy. When lock-down is over I will show you some of his work,
I feel sure I still have some of his books, hidden away in the loft.
'Eh up lad, I'll go t'foot of R stairs fer thee!'

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan
Post by: Baron von Wreckedoften on 17 April 2020, 06:13:56 PM

Quote from: Scrubber on 16 April 2020, 11:36:53 AM

Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan is a Mike Harding poem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxAvEjmLUiE

Thanks Baron. Made mental note of that.

Ah, Mike Harding - a very happy memory from the 70s and 80s.

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan. Brunswicks
Post by: Scrubber on 21 May 2020, 09:47:50 PM

My first British made up brigade with be.
1 battalion 7th Fusiliers.
1 battalion light infantry.
1 battalion to be decided.
They will be accompanied by 1 company Brunswick Oels Jäger.

My question is does anyone make these Jäger in 28mm. Perrys in to late a uniform.
2nd question. My British battalion is 24 figures strong, so would company of Jäger be represented by 4 figures.
3rd question how do you Paint shaded black uniforms.

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan. Brunswicks
Post by: Digits on 21 May 2020, 09:57:24 PM

Small unit in a black powder 12 minis so a company would be tiny, 6 minis.

Front a rank have just released the Brunswickers with more to come....

https://www.frontrank.com/product-category/napoleonic/napoleonic-brunswick/brunswick-infantry-reinforcement-packs/

Feeling better?

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan. Brunswicks
Post by: Hu Rhu on 21 May 2020, 09:57:55 PM

Can't answer the formation questions but for black try the Foundry Charcoal Grey triad, but for the first highlight combine 50/50 of shade A and B, perhaps with a little Prussian Blue.

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan. Brunswicks
Post by: Scrubber on 21 May 2020, 10:47:17 PM

Looking in Albion Triumphant my Brunswick unit would be classed as “tiny” with a unit size of 5/6 figures in skirmish order.

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan. Brunswicks
Post by: vodkafan on 23 May 2020, 11:02:38 PM

Quote from: Scrubber on 21 May 2020, 10:47:17 PM

Looking in Albion Triumphant my Brunswick unit would be classed as “tiny” with a unit size of 5/6 figures in skirmish order.

As your Brigade is fictional, why not stretch it to two companies Brian? 12 is a nice number...
Interesting that you have the 7th Fusiliers, in my Reserve Brigade (also fictional) I have the 4th and the 6th Regts of foot

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan. Brunswicks
Post by: Scrubber on 24 May 2020, 01:09:36 AM

More research done.

Battalion Line Prince of Wales volunteers 82nd Regiment. yellow
Battalion Fusiliers. Royal Welsh 23rd regiment. blue. hackles white throughout.
Battalion Light. Monmouthshire 43rd Regiment. white.
Company Brunswick Jäger.

Brigade Commander Lt. Col Jac Jones MB. IoM.

Each battalion will be 24 figures strong, Jäger 6 figures.

I already have these figures for first two regiments so money saved.

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan. Brunswicks
Post by: Scrubber on 04 November 2020, 03:03:59 PM

Basically I’m a lazy painter, so some advice please.

I paint my British as follows.
Jacket.Crimson Red, dry brush scarlet. Next trousers light grey dry brush white. Apply shade tone to full figures, then lightly pick out scarlet and white.

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan. Painting advice.
Post by: vtsaogames on 05 November 2020, 07:25:25 PM

Black wash to finish?

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan. Painting canteen
Post by: Scrubber on 06 November 2020, 04:13:55 PM

What colour blue should I be using to paint British peninsula canteen/water container.

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan. 3rd east kent
Post by: Scrubber on 07 November 2020, 04:31:39 PM

More questions.
3rd east Kent. What colour should trousers be in Peninsular. White or grey.
Same regiment. What colour should the drummers jacket be, also colour of drum.
Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan. 3rd east kent
Post by: vodkafan on 08 November 2020, 10:03:27 AM

Quote from: Scrubber on 07 November 2020, 04:31:39 PM

More questions.
3rd east Kent. What colour should trousers be in Peninsular. White or grey.
Same regiment. What colour should the drummers jacket be, also colour of drum.
Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

Brian, just quick notes:
The East Kent were the Buffs. So unlike other Regiments their overalls were not white but Buff coloured
until 1812 when proper grey trousers became universal. So depends exactly when you want to depict them.
Drummers jacket reversed colours so Buff with red facings on collar and cuffs. Front half of drum also in the Regt. facing colour (buff), rear of drum brass colour. Ropes around the drum white, red horizontal strip top and bottom around drum.
One important difference to other line regiments! The cross belts, haversack and knapsack straps of this regt. should NOT be white! They were Buff coloured to match the facings.   
The lace edgings on the shoulders and across the front of the red uniform is as normal though and is the only white.
Hope this helps. A quick google search will bring up lots of uniform plates.
They are a nice interesting unit to have on the table actually, easy to differentiate.

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan. Painting canteen
Post by: vodkafan on 08 November 2020, 10:14:33 AM

Quote from: Scrubber on 06 November 2020, 04:13:55 PM

What colour blue should I be using to paint British peninsula canteen/water container.

 Brian I painted mine a dark blue then highlighted with  GW Hoeth Blue or GW Lothern Blue, can't remember which:

(https://i.postimg.cc/tTxSrgbD/20200422-170713.jpg)

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan. 3rd east kent
Post by: Digits on 08 November 2020, 10:52:33 AM

Cheers James, as I too will be painting the East Kent, this is very handy mate!

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan. 3rd east kent
Post by: Scrubber on 08 November 2020, 03:50:50 PM

Snazza Frazza Rashin Fashin Rick Rastardly.
There goes my one per day project. Repaint drummer coat.

Seriously thank you for that information Vodkafan.
Were all British drummer coat the facing colour of the regiments?

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan. 3rd east kent
Post by: vodkafan on 08 November 2020, 05:37:28 PM

I believe so yes. The Light Infantry had buglers instead of drummers, their coat colours were not reversed.
You need to invest in a couple of Ospreys Brian  ;)

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan. 3rd east kent
Post by: Scrubber on 08 November 2020, 08:52:26 PM

This was not period I intended to do. But someone bullied me into it. ;)
Originally figures my son was given, idea was paint them up and sell them on eBay.

The other problem I’ve found whilst painting them. Can’t get O’er the hills and far away. Out of my head.

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan. 3rd east kent
Post by: has.been on 09 November 2020, 10:45:06 AM

Quote

The other problem I’ve found whilst painting them. Can’t get O’er the hills and far away. Out of my head.

That is because.. 'King George commands & we obey'.

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan. 3rd east kent
Post by: Harry Faversham on 09 November 2020, 11:16:26 AM

Quote from: Scrubber on 08 November 2020, 03:50:50 PM

Snazza Frazza Rashin Fashin Rick Rastardly.

You called?

(https://www.thewargameswebsite.com/wp-content/uploads/hm_bbpui/124612/39f4ockuj5a5ao6ndkykkuddf6qg8qwl.jpg)

 ;)

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan. 3rd east kent
Post by: Scrubber on 09 November 2020, 12:49:51 PM

I want Harry.
Please, please please, where are they from.

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan. 3rd east kent
Post by: Digits on 09 November 2020, 02:41:02 PM

Dick is from Artizan Brian. 

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan. White uniforms
Post by: Scrubber on 09 November 2020, 04:12:13 PM

David this is how I painted my Austrians white.
From left to right.
First army paint uniform grey, then heavy brush Matt white. Big brush army painter strong tone. Lighter dry brush white, finally go over straps again with white.

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan. 3rd east kent
Post by: Harry Faversham on 09 November 2020, 11:34:47 PM

Quote from: Scrubber on 09 November 2020, 12:49:51 PM

I want Harry.
Please, please please, where are they from.

Dick Dastardly's from Artezan, Muttley's from Crooked Dice.

 :)

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan. The buffs
Post by: Scrubber on 11 November 2020, 02:37:29 PM

Monsieur Digits the gauntlet is thrown.

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan. The buffs
Post by: Digits on 11 November 2020, 02:43:35 PM

Hmmmm....seeing as I was going to paint some Brits next in my Nap box.....I too will have to do the Buffs!

Good work....but I ain’t painting numbers on them!

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan. The buffs
Post by: vodkafan on 11 November 2020, 11:03:31 PM

Er Brian...you have done the equipment straps white and the trousers white...did you not read my notes?  They should be all buff.  :o

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan. The buffs
Post by: Digits on 11 November 2020, 11:09:17 PM

Where have you sourced that please James?

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan. The buffs
Post by: Scrubber on 11 November 2020, 11:44:49 PM

There may be some confusion here and need someone with better knowledge than me.
Illustration uniform 1809 Canada. White trousers and straps.
Illustration 1812, buff straps grey trousers.

The only picture I could find of buff trousers is on an ensign.

Isn’t google a fun thing.

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan. Command bases
Post by: Scrubber on 09 December 2020, 10:47:14 PM

Quick question. How does everyone do their napoleonic command base.
Office drum and 2 ensigns all on one base. But would be off centre with 6 base unit.
Or split then over 2 bases with soldiers either side.
Would look more aesthetically pleasing that way a colours would be centred.

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan. Command bases
Post by: Digits on 09 December 2020, 11:18:41 PM

I put all mine on same base...all my commands are “offset”

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan. British figure basing.
Post by: Scrubber on 24 December 2020, 01:17:28 PM

For warlord black powder. How should I be arranging my British peninsula war.
Working on 6 stands of 4 figures per stand.
Should this be 1 command, 3 line and 2 of fusiliers. One at each end of the line.

Title: Re: Napoleon’s retreat from Wigan. Wanted British at rest
Post by: Scrubber on 19 April 2021, 01:39:30 PM

I’m looking for 28mm British Peninsula soldiers to go into camp setting.
So figures not in full uniform and unarmed.
Not bothered about mixing supplies as not everyone is a standard shape and size.

I have already seen the Perry miniature range.
https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product/bh-142-peninsular-war-camp-scene-1-british-infantry-standing-down-plus-sentry/

Also what shape of tents would the British have used.

Thankyou.