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Title: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Hu Rhu on 17 May 2020, 09:40:43 PM
For a while I have been thinking about branching out into the Italian Wars and I've finally started to put brush to miniatures.  I expect this to be a slow burn project not least of which the time it takes to paint each figure (and I haven't started on the Landsknechts yet). 

Here is the first unit typical of the Spanish forces in the early part of the Italian wars, a unit of Genitor light cavalry.  Figures by TAG, flag by Pete's Flags and based as skirmishing light cavalry.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/46/6932-170520202933.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/46/6932-170520203130.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/46/6932-170520203332.jpeg)

Title: Re: Italalian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Antonio J Carrasco on 17 May 2020, 10:12:13 PM
Very nice! Like it a lot.

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Post by: Atheling on 17 May 2020, 11:02:21 PM
Ooooh! Me like a lot  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Italalian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Captain Blood on 17 May 2020, 11:10:59 PM
 Very colourful, Gary. They look great.
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Post by: Romark on 18 May 2020, 08:38:58 AM
A fine start Gary  :)
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Post by: Bloggard on 18 May 2020, 08:57:37 AM
great looking unit.
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Post by: schoey on 18 May 2020, 08:58:19 AM
These are really nice, look forward to seeing more.
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Post by: HappyChappy439 on 18 May 2020, 09:01:54 AM
Great start!
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Post by: jambo1 on 18 May 2020, 09:08:41 AM
Nice start, very impressive!! :)
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Post by: Katsuhiko JiNNai on 18 May 2020, 11:26:30 AM
Well done, when the army will be complete it will be really colourful :)
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Post by: pete on 18 May 2020, 11:41:45 AM
nicely done.  :-*

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Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Hu Rhu on 20 May 2020, 02:19:19 PM
Thanks very much for all the positive feedback. 

Next up are my Spanish Gendarmes. Foundry Miniatures and Pete's Flags banner.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/46/6932-200520131243.jpeg)

And some close-ups.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/46/6932-200520131802.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/46/6932-200520131106.jpeg)



Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Romark on 20 May 2020, 02:48:24 PM
Imposing looking unit Gary  :-*
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Yarkshire Gamer on 20 May 2020, 02:50:06 PM
Lovely stuff,  when all this is over we need a giant meet up and get all the lovely Italian Wars figures on a big table  :)

Regards Ken
The Yarkshire Gamer
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Hu Rhu on 20 May 2020, 03:26:25 PM
Imposing looking unit Gary  :-*

Thanks Keith.

Lovely stuff,  when all this is over we need a giant meet up and get all the lovely Italian Wars figures on a big table  :)

Regards Ken
The Yarkshire Gamer

Ken - That would be great but I'll have to go some to match your output.
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Atheling on 21 May 2020, 02:43:37 PM
More fab work Hu  :-* :-* :-*

Those Foundry Gendarme's will never go out of fashion  8)

I'm (soon/soon-ish) going to start working on a 1250 pt army for Swordpoint which will of course be usable with Hail Caesar, WAB and a my favourite for the period, based on just reading the rules, Furioso.
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Eoin OCnaimhsi on 21 May 2020, 04:53:17 PM
Amazing.

Especially the Genitors. Lovely miniatures, painting is fantastic.

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Post by: GamesPoet on 21 May 2020, 05:08:19 PM
Looking very good!
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Hu Rhu on 21 May 2020, 06:48:27 PM
More fab work Hu  :-* :-* :-*

Those Foundry Gendarme's will never go out of fashion  8)


True but I just wish they produced more variety in their armoured horses or sold the riders separately.


I'm (soon/soon-ish) going to start working on a 1250 pt army for Swordpoint which will of course be usable with Hail Caesar, WAB and a my favourite for the period, based on just reading the rules, Furioso.

Haven't tried Furioso, mine are based for Pike and Shotte, which seem to work well with a few minor tweaks to get the period feel.

Amazing.

Especially the Genitors. Lovely miniatures, painting is fantastic.



Looking very good!

Thanks very much for the kind comments.

Next up are some Spanish Arquebus. Foundry from their Conquistador range.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/46/6932-210520174438.jpeg)

Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Atheling on 21 May 2020, 06:52:48 PM
Next up are some Spanish Arquebus. Foundry from their Conquistador range.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/46/6932-210520174438.jpeg)

They look superb  :-*

Do you think the Foundry and TAG Arquebusiers will mix well? If so great as that's more possible variation :)
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: fred on 21 May 2020, 08:24:31 PM
Lovely work!
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Hu Rhu on 21 May 2020, 08:32:36 PM
They look superb  :-*

Do you think the Foundry and TAG Arquebusiers will mix well? If so great as that's more possible variation :)

Thanks. The Foundry figures in this range are a litle bit chunkier so I wouldn't mix them in the same units.  I think the Eureka figures mix better with TAG. I'll be painting them up in due course and will post a comparison picture.
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Post by: Captain Blood on 21 May 2020, 09:33:18 PM
They look very good. You have hit a productive vein, Gary!
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Hu Rhu on 21 May 2020, 09:36:02 PM
They look very good. You have hit a productive vein, Gary!

Thanks.  Now to keep the vein open, so to speak.  ;)
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Metternich on 28 May 2020, 09:38:03 PM
Lovely work indeed.  You have a fine army shaping up.
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Hu Rhu on 31 May 2020, 05:47:58 PM
Some more Spanish sword and buckler men.  Foundry Conquistador range.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/46/6932-310520163952.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/46/6932-310520164111.jpeg)

And some command stands for the Spanish Swordsmen. Again Foundry Conquistador range with Pete's Flags.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/46/6932-310520164635.jpeg)

Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Atheling on 31 May 2020, 06:02:45 PM
Smashing stuff Ru  :-* :-* :-*
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Post by: Ray Rivers on 31 May 2020, 06:23:06 PM
Coming out really good!

Well done!  :-*
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Post by: Captain Blood on 31 May 2020, 08:21:52 PM
Looking good Gary.
Copplestone sculpts - the last ones he ever did for Foundry IIRC - you can’t beat them.
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: AdamPHayes on 01 June 2020, 12:05:56 PM
Great looking units! (Must not get distracted!)
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Hu Rhu on 02 June 2020, 12:23:19 PM
Smashing stuff Ru  :-* :-* :-*

Coming out really good!

Well done!  :-*

Looking good Gary.
Copplestone sculpts - the last ones he ever did for Foundry IIRC - you can’t beat them.


Thanks for the kind comments.

Great looking units! (Must not get distracted!)

Distracted...by shiny things... a new period....why not.  That's how I got started.  :D :D
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Atheling on 02 June 2020, 12:24:40 PM
Thanks for the kind comments.

Distracted...by shiny things... a new period....why not.  That's how I got started.  :D :D

A very common ailment!  :D

Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Yuber Okami on 02 June 2020, 02:07:29 PM
Aren't the flags upside down???

BTW, do TAG and Foundry mix up well? I've never seen a comparison pic...

In other order of things: great painting! Hope you get some "french" rivals in the area (or enough patience to build your own french army)
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Romark on 02 June 2020, 02:35:33 PM
Lovely additions Gary  :)
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Hu Rhu on 02 June 2020, 04:19:43 PM
Aren't the flags upside down???

BTW, do TAG and Foundry mix up well? I've never seen a comparison pic...

In other order of things: great painting! Hope you get some "french" rivals in the area (or enough patience to build your own french army)

Upside down flags - Oops.  Thanks - well spotted.  I'll make some adjustments later.

Comparison - I'll be putting up some pics of the TAG Spanish Pike shortly and you can judge if they match well.

French - My regular war gaming opponent is covering off the French and we'll both be adding some Italians to our forces.
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Atheling on 02 June 2020, 10:08:54 PM
Upside down flags - Oops.  Thanks - well spotted.  I'll make some adjustments later.

 lol You're not alone. I did just the same thing with the Queens Colours on Neil's Bluecaps for the Indian Mutiny! lol

I didn't notice until two years later when someone pointed it out  o_o o_o o_o
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Hu Rhu on 13 June 2020, 10:37:58 AM
Another unit of Spanish infantry for the Italian Wars.  This time a pike unit, TAG miniatures and Pete's Flags banner (this time the right way up). 

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/46/6932-310520164238.jpeg)

The tag figures are much smaller then the Foundry Conquistador.  I'll show a comparison in the next post, when I attempt to put the whole lot into a Colunella.
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Atheling on 13 June 2020, 11:53:52 AM
Another unit of Spanish infantry for the Italian Wars.  This time a pike unit, TAG miniatures and Pete's Flags banner (this time the right way up). 

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/46/6932-310520164238.jpeg)

The tag figures are much smaller then the Foundry Conquistador.  I'll show a comparison in the next post, when I attempt to put the whole lot into a Colunella.

Great stuff  :-* :-* :-*

Good to see this project getting bigger  8)

I find that the TAG mini's fit really well with the Perry European Mercenaries stuff, although their armours are from a little later. Less so with the bulkier Foundry sculpts- which are great in their own right.
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Ray Rivers on 13 June 2020, 12:26:10 PM
Sumptuous!  :-*

I'd be interested in seeing the size comparison. Sometimes I think we put too much importance in making sure all the figures are the same height. That isn't the norm in real life.
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Post by: Captain Blood on 13 June 2020, 12:52:20 PM
Lovely and vivid  :-*
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Post by: FierceKitty on 14 June 2020, 03:28:27 AM
Sumptuous!  :-*

I'd be interested in seeing the size comparison. Sometimes I think we put too much importance in making sure all the figures are the same height. That isn't the norm in real life.

Hear, hear.
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Romark on 14 June 2020, 08:37:13 AM
Lovely additions Gary  8)
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Post by: Troop of Shewe on 05 July 2020, 04:38:18 PM
Great looking unit
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Post by: GamesPoet on 05 July 2020, 05:12:05 PM
Enjoying the figures in this thread, congrats!
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Chriscornwell on 06 July 2020, 10:39:09 AM
Enjoying seeing this project- More please!
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Hu Rhu on 29 May 2021, 10:10:03 AM
Although my attention over the last lockdown switched to other things I did manage to finish off two Spanish Colunellas but didn't post pictures at the time.  Here is my take on how they might look.  TAG Pike, Foundry Conquistador for Arquebus and Sword and Buckler men.  Flags by Pete's Flags.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/51/6932-290521090818.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/51/6932-290521084226-514731006.jpeg)

As you can see the Foundry and TAG miniatures are quite different sizes, especially the Sword and Buckler men, and I think I will have to re-do these units.  :-[  Comparison shot here:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/51/6932-290521090627.jpeg)

 I will either use the Foundry Spanish Pike to match the others or replace the Arquebus/Swordsmen figures with TAG figures so they match.  Perhaps both so that I have different units but each unit with the same style of figures.  I am also keen to see how the forthcoming Atlantic Wargames Conquistadors look and perhaps I might be able to utilise these.  They would certainly be cheaper than Foundry who have put their prices up again.

Either way I will certainly increase the ratio of Arquebus from 8 to 12 or 16 figures in the unit.  Perhaps the best way is to use the current Arqubusiers as skirmish infantry in a separate unit.  Decisions, decisions  :? :?
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Atheling on 29 May 2021, 10:29:19 AM
Delicious stuff  :-*
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Post by: Captain Blood on 31 May 2021, 01:34:37 PM
Beautiful, Gary  :-* A finely curated and decorated collection  :)
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Post by: TheDilfy on 08 June 2021, 11:26:26 AM
A stunning and inspiring army and collection - love the colour palette and the theme  :-* :-*
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Post by: Axebreaker on 08 June 2021, 05:34:41 PM
Beautiful looking force! :-*

Christopher
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Hu Rhu on 08 June 2021, 10:05:31 PM
Delicious stuff  :-*

Thanks Darren.

Beautiful, Gary  :-* A finely curated and decorated collection  :)

Thanks Richard

A stunning and inspiring army and collection - love the colour palette and the theme  :-* :-*

Beautiful looking force! :-*

Christopher

Thank you both very much. 

I really enjoy the vibrant colours of this period, especially the Italians and I made the assumption that any Spanish force on the Italian mainland would also deck themselves out in similar styles, especially since some of the 'Spanish' troops were actually Neopolitans.

I plan to have an Italian contingent in the army so there is scope for even more flamboyant colours. And then of course there are the Landsknechts.  So much variations in clothing styles, weapons and flags - not to mention the tactics.  What's not to like about this period. :D :D
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: pete on 11 June 2021, 11:21:20 AM
yay!

Love seeing TAG minis mixed with other folks minis...

(and thanks for posting to our Gallery pages, https://theassaultgroup.co.uk/my-account/user-gallery/?ug-gallery=gallery&order-category=92)
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Post by: Bloggard on 11 June 2021, 12:32:44 PM
looking great!
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Post by: caveadsum1471 on 11 June 2021, 07:15:21 PM
Lovely looking Spanish! I don't think the variation is too bad between the Foundry conquistadors and TAG, although the Foundry landsknechts and Swiss are a bit closer, I'm also looking forward to the wargames Atlantic conquistadors either way you're troops look great!
Best Iain
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Hu Rhu on 10 August 2024, 02:41:01 PM
After a long hiatus I have come back to this project.  This is where I left it, with two colunellas, a unit of Gendarmes and a unit of Genitors completed.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/63/6932-100824143212-63319681.jpeg)

So far I have added another Colunella. All TAG figures with the banners by Pete's Flags.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/63/6932-100824143213-633201508.jpeg)

Also two bases of commanders, one mounted and the other foot. I still have the flags to add to the mounted commander. Foot base are Foundry and the mounted commander by TAG.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/63/6932-100824143213-633222110.jpeg)

I still need to add a few more arquebusier to the front rank of colunellas one and two but happy where this is going.

Next up will be some Archer cavalry and some light guns.
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: valleyboy on 10 August 2024, 09:34:37 PM
I missed this thread when it came out originally. Great looking units, well done. I'm always pleased to see Italian Wars figures, particularly TAG as I don't have any (yet!)
Would value any recommendations you have for command groups, both mounted and on foot
Since you started Artizan Spanish have come out , do you plan on adding any?
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Hu Rhu on 10 August 2024, 09:56:43 PM
I hadn't noticed the Artizan Design Spanish figures until you pointed them out.  Not sure how they would look against the TAG figures.  I do have some of their Landsknechts so at a guess a little chunkier than TAG and Perry but less bulky than the Foundry Conquistador figures.  I might buy some artillerymen and see how they look.

If they go well I might add an extra colunella made up with all Artizan figures but that will not be for a while as I have a whole load of other figures trying to push their way to the front of the painting queue.

As to command groups, TAG provide a couple for each of their ranges mostly with either 2 cavalry and a dismounted figure or occasionally with 3 mounted figures.  For dismounted command all ranges provide 3-4 command figures that would work as a command group on their own or included in the unit.  The key for me is something different with plenty of colour and flags.
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Hu Rhu on 12 August 2024, 10:39:05 AM
'The Great Captain' Gonzalo Fernández de Córdoba now with his standard by Pete's Flags.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/63/6932-120824103226-633702165.jpeg)

Neopolitan/Spanish Archer cavalry - Eureka Miniatures with banners by Pete's Flags.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/63/6932-120824103000-633691354.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/63/6932-120824102959-633681732.jpeg)
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Captain Blood on 12 August 2024, 11:58:54 AM
Jolly nice, Gary  8)
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Post by: Malamute on 12 August 2024, 12:13:05 PM
Great stuff Gary. :-*
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Post by: armchairgeneral on 12 August 2024, 12:40:08 PM
Excellent painting. Superb looking units. Could suggest painting the edges of your flags to match the field/flag border?
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Hu Rhu on 14 August 2024, 04:23:44 PM
Excellent painting. Superb looking units. Could suggest painting the edges of your flags to match the field/flag border?

Thanks very much.  Yes I must get round to that.
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Basementboy on 14 August 2024, 06:37:22 PM
Awesome! Really love the command stand :)
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Hu Rhu on 15 August 2024, 10:13:41 AM
Awesome! Really love the command stand :)

Thanks very much.

Next up is a unit of Italian Arquebusiers in the service of Frederico Montefeltro, Duke of Urbino. Perry metals with the odd Perry plastic in the mix.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/63/6932-120824102958-633512484.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/63/6932-120824102959-633661581.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/63/6932-120824102959-633672442.jpeg)

The Italians will form the allies for the Spanish but also as a faction in their own right when I expand the collection.

I've also repainted all the edges of my flags as suggested earlier so now they show no white edges. I'll update the pictures in due course.

Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Romark on 15 August 2024, 11:39:43 AM
Fine additions to the collection Gary 👍
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Hu Rhu on 16 August 2024, 08:57:20 PM
Thanks Keith, Richard and Nik.

Great stuff Gary. :-*

Jolly nice, Gary  8)

Fine additions to the collection Gary 👍

Next up is another Italian Crossbow unit serving the same Duke.  Partly Perry metals, with a Foundry figure plus half Perry plastic but kitbashed with some arms and heads from the Warlord Games Landsknecht missile troops.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/63/6932-150824105220-633782139.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/63/6932-150824105221-633812150.jpeg)

Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Corso on 17 August 2024, 08:33:54 AM
Nice looking unit  :-*

Was watching the Palio di Siena yesterday (before being interrupted by rain) - your unit reminded me of the Tartuca contrada.
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Hu Rhu on 26 August 2024, 07:26:29 PM
Nice looking unit  :-*


Thanks.  Next up a unit of mounted arquebusiers.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/63/6932-260824192243-635861122.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/63/6932-260824192243-63587159.jpeg)

Just a unit of Mounted Crossbowmen to go and this division is complete.