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Miniatures Adventure => Age of Myths, Gods and Empires => Topic started by: agent_pumpkin on June 15, 2020, 01:31:22 PM

Title: Infamy, Infamy!
Post by: agent_pumpkin on June 15, 2020, 01:31:22 PM
Infamy, Infamy! ‘They’ve Got it ALL Infamy’ Bundle is now up for Advanced orders! Catch it at from those nice chaps at Toofatlardies!

https://toofatlardies.co.uk/product/infamy-infamy-theyve-got-it-all-infamy-bundle/
Title: Re: Infamy, Infamy!
Post by: Atheling on June 15, 2020, 02:03:27 PM
Done.

Can't wait  ;D
Title: Re: Infamy, Infamy!
Post by: DCRBrown on June 15, 2020, 02:54:05 PM
I’ve just pre-ordered a copy of “Infamy/Infamy” as well

Certainly look an interesting set of large skirmish rules with a very fine cover picture! Nice to see the Roman “shield boss” being used to good effect!

(https://i.postimg.cc/mkSmZcNF/Infamy-Cover-Final.png) (https://postimg.cc/YLh6bCPp)

DB
Title: Re: Infamy, Infamy!
Post by: guitarheroandy on June 15, 2020, 06:11:57 PM
Ordered!!!  :D
Title: Re: Infamy, Infamy!
Post by: Sir_Theo on June 15, 2020, 06:31:52 PM
Fantastic. I'm really looking forward to this set of rules.
Title: Re: Infamy, Infamy!
Post by: agent_pumpkin on June 16, 2020, 11:47:23 AM
And here is the blog post about it release!

http://toofatlardies.co.uk/blog/?p=7986
Title: Re: Infamy, Infamy!
Post by: Shahbahraz on June 18, 2020, 12:59:06 AM
Infamy, Infamy! ‘They’ve Got it ALL Infamy’ Bundle is now up for Advanced orders! Catch it at from those nice chaps at Toofatlardies!

https://toofatlardies.co.uk/product/infamy-infamy-theyve-got-it-all-infamy-bundle/

I couldn't resist. 29 June for release.
Title: Re: Infamy, Infamy!
Post by: Battle Brush Sigur on June 18, 2020, 12:41:11 PM
Yar, this is going to be good. :)
Title: Re: Infamy, Infamy!
Post by: Tim Haslam on June 18, 2020, 01:07:00 PM
Ordered mine...
Title: Re: Infamy, Infamy!
Post by: Antonio J Carrasco on June 21, 2020, 10:21:41 AM
Very tempted, but I don't know yet if I will buy it or not. The period covered is not my favourite -I prefer 4th-5th Centuries-, but I usually like TFL rulesets... Maybe I will wait until it is released and read some reviews.
Title: Re: Infamy, Infamy!
Post by: nikephorous on June 21, 2020, 11:54:09 AM
Very tempted, but I don't know yet if I will buy it or not. The period covered is not my favourite -I prefer 4th-5th Centuries-, but I usually like TFL rulesets... Maybe I will wait until it is released and read some reviews.
There will be supplements. The initial release will cover Caesarian, Early Imperial, Germans, Gauls and Britons.

The first supplement covers Carthaginian, Spanish, Greek and successors (presumably Pyrrhus and the last of the Macedonians) who fought Rome.

The second supplement will cover Dacians and other easterners - it is still only in the planning.

I would suggest that many of the later Romans and enemies may be able to use stats from these supplements. Perhaps we can convince Rich to go a little later than he anticipated?  :D

The videos Rich has uploaded to YouTube are excellent and give some great guides to force composition and there is also a game run through.

Go one - order them. You know you want to!  lol lol

John
Title: Re: Infamy, Infamy!
Post by: SJWi on June 21, 2020, 12:22:17 PM
By the way, for those wanting to play "Infamy, Infamy", I have decided to offload the force of Victrix plastic Gauls I have assembled, based and primed. I'm sticking to metal and using some figures I have already.

If interested see the "Bazaar of Obscurities"!
Title: Re: Infamy, Infamy!
Post by: Westfalia Chris on June 24, 2020, 10:25:47 AM
Please be advised that I removed the diverging thread direction so the discussion may re-focus on the game itself and related topics.

Please avoid discussing affairs of/at other fora, except for technical issues/information, e.g. server moves, downtimes, registration things, if you cannot contact their support, it's okay to flag it up here so somebody with a contact might see it.
Title: Re: Infamy, Infamy!
Post by: Gibby on June 24, 2020, 10:41:32 AM
As I said before, I have happily pre-ordered. Never been disappointed by a Lardy ruleset and this has revived my interests in the Ancient period (which was previously waning a bit). Looking forward to this game, and am preparing a force of angry Britons!
Title: Re: Infamy, Infamy!
Post by: meninobesta on June 24, 2020, 11:09:30 AM
don't forget to check the latest Lard content on the subject in youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKy2GOhZGys
very interesting
Title: Re: Infamy, Infamy!
Post by: Atheling on June 24, 2020, 11:14:48 AM
don't forget to check the latest Lard content on the subject in youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKy2GOhZGys
very interesting

Done. Spoiler Alert!

I loved Richard's Charge of the Ancient Light Brigade  ;D It's exactly the sort of blunder I would make  :D
Title: Re: Infamy, Infamy!
Post by: wmyers on June 24, 2020, 07:28:25 PM
I'm interested!  I will wait until the reviews are in, though, I think.  Maybe. 

Being off work for months has put a dent in the disposable cash and I haven't even tried Clash of Spears yet.  (and I fell asleep watching the TFL videos about it)
Title: Re: Infamy, Infamy!
Post by: Shahbahraz on June 24, 2020, 10:52:48 PM
Done. Spoiler Alert!

I loved Richard's Charge of the Ancient Light Brigade  ;D It's exactly the sort of blunder I would make  :D

And he forgot the assassin card in the first charge of the German elites that could well have wounded or killed the centurion.
Title: Re: Infamy, Infamy!
Post by: Quackstheking on June 25, 2020, 07:53:35 AM
Well the next instalment is now up on Lard TV - Caesarian Roman vs Britons!

I’m off to watch it now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bg1WAm_3QA&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR1pbpY7TnBK49eXwQMGBPOcC1T7ZakcRSo2Nybzy4ydLencfyKv-_-id_M

QTK
Title: Re: Infamy, Infamy!
Post by: Johnp4000 on June 25, 2020, 12:00:18 PM
I'm interested!  I will wait until the reviews are in, though, I think.  Maybe. 

Being off work for months has put a dent in the disposable cash and I haven't even tried Clash of Spears yet.  (and I fell asleep watching the TFL videos about it)

It would be interesting to see a  unbiased direct comparison between Clash of Spears and Infamy, Infamy, they both seem to cover a similar situation, small combined arms units fighting in the same manner as a larger force. Clash even has rules for elephants and Pikemen which I must admit I wouldn't expect to see in the usual small action. The latest youtube video With the Caesarean v Ancient Brits was more entertaining.
Title: Re: Infamy, Infamy!
Post by: wmyers on June 25, 2020, 09:35:59 PM
It would be interesting to see a  unbiased direct comparison between Clash of Spears and Infamy, Infamy, they both seem to cover a similar situation, small combined arms units fighting in the same manner as a larger force. Clash even has rules for elephants and Pikemen which I must admit I wouldn't expect to see in the usual small action. The latest youtube video With the Caesarean v Ancient Brits was more entertaining.

I had thought of pikes in small action.  We are used to mass pike blocks, but if a small group of pikemen were ambushed or got separated somehow, would they use their pikes to defend themselves like medieval and ECW era pikemen?

I would think so, as they are trained in that weapon and should know how to use it and being thinking adults would be able to adapt to their situation.

If we can imagine two ranks of 5 i am sure they could. 

They did carry melee weapons for a reason, too. 

No, I have no idea if Infamy has any rules for pikes.
Title: Re: Infamy, Infamy!
Post by: Atheling on June 25, 2020, 10:06:25 PM
I had thought of pikes in small action.  We are used to mass pike blocks, but if a small group of pikemen were ambushed or got separated somehow, would they use their pikes to defend themselves like medieval and ECW era pikemen?

I would think so, as they are trained in that weapon and should know how to use it and being thinking adults would be able to adapt to their situation.

If we can imagine two ranks of 5 i am sure they could. 

They did carry melee weapons for a reason, too. 

No, I have no idea if Infamy has any rules for pikes.

An interesting question and one that might be worth asking about in the reenactment community.
Title: Re: Infamy, Infamy!
Post by: WuZhuiQiu on June 25, 2020, 11:53:15 PM
I think that it would depend on whether their flanks were protected. Regardless, there must have been a reason why Hypaspists sometimes used spears instead of pikes.
Title: Re: Infamy, Infamy!
Post by: Antonio J Carrasco on June 26, 2020, 08:00:58 AM
It would be interesting to see a  unbiased direct comparison between Clash of Spears and Infamy, Infamy, they both seem to cover a similar situation, small combined arms units fighting in the same manner as a larger force. Clash even has rules for elephants and Pikemen which I must admit I wouldn't expect to see in the usual small action. The latest youtube video With the Caesarean v Ancient Brits was more entertaining.

My guess is that Infamy is more focused on the Romans vs Barbarians theme, while CoS is somewhat more "catholic" in scope. If Infamy follows the same tongue-in-cheek approach that you can -if you wish- introduce in Sharp Practice games, my guess is that the ocasional elephant or pikemen unit can be used  as special asset. However, it will be -as happens in Clash, to be honest- part of a scenario -a story- rather than the core of the game as such. Anyway, I don't expect either of them will appear in the first book, which is set in the period 60 BCE to 100 CE.

Rationally, pikes don't look particularly efficient as a skirmish weapon, but in the context of a scenario it can make sense: to represent an ambush, part of a bigger battlefield, or the remnants of a phalanx trying to retreat in good order from a defeat. Not totally unthinkable.
Title: Re: Infamy, Infamy!
Post by: Atheling on June 26, 2020, 08:07:51 AM
My guess is that Infamy is more focused on the Romans vs Barbarians theme

It is. At least for now. There are solid plans a foot for expanding into different time periods from what I've read.
Title: Re: Infamy, Infamy!
Post by: Johnp4000 on June 26, 2020, 12:07:18 PM
I think that it would depend on whether their flanks were protected. Regardless, there must have been a reason why Hypaspists sometimes used spears instead of pikes.

That will always be the issue in a small game how can your flanks be protected, a small group of pikeman could easily be flanked, by either close order troops or lights. I always have the impression of a skirmish being chaotic with clashes across the table, troops in the wrong positions and it being difficult to reform. Infamy looks more organised with  close order and supports already formed up.With this concept I suppose you could deploy pikemen?
Title: Re: Infamy, Infamy!
Post by: Jjonas on June 26, 2020, 11:54:13 PM
Rationally, pikes don't look particularly efficient as a skirmish weapon, but in the context of a scenario it can make sense: to represent an ambush, part of a bigger battlefield, or the remnants of a phalanx trying to retreat in good order from a defeat. Not totally unthinkable.

Macedonian pikemen used javelins in sieges and smaller actions. They were trained in javelin and pike tactics. Later pikemen became more one dimensional, leaving everything but battlefield work to auxiliaries. We hear of Alexander's phalangites in reserve coming to rescue parts of the siege lines under attack, so that probably counts as a "skirmish". There is one account of a Antigonid phalanx defending a breached wall against Romans, but they did not have to move. The Romans were not able to dent the phalanx ensconced behind the rubble and with walls covering the flanks. In other situations during the Macedonian Wars with Rome the phalanx was not able to help out in the numerous small actions that Romans kept forcing. It was not flexible enough or efficient when operating in small dribs and drabs- as is discussed at length by Polybius.