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Miniatures Adventure => The Second World War => Topic started by: Helen on 12 August 2009, 12:59:52 AM
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Hi Guys,
Michael Broadbent an I tried out the IABSM rules with the Rising Sun supplement by the Lardies on a small game to test out the mechanics of the rules. Of course we had a few teething problems which I'll be addressing with the group forum, but overall we were very happy with the outcomes.
My own painted force of Japanese of two squads (one with lmg the other with knee mortar [sniper included in one of the sections]) an one Hollywood Japanese Big Man pitted against two Elite Aussie squads(sniper, 2in mortar included) with two Big Men, one HMG and a platoon of medium mortars in support. The latter was not on board.
I split my two sections up the protect the bunker with the lmg inside the bunker and a small screen of flankers and forward outpost. A reserve of Japanese was situated behind the bunker on another feature.
Michael's forces advance up the centre with a flanking force and destroyed the outpost and sniper. The lmg open up an inflicted a number of casualties. I decided a Banzai charge was on offer and so charged his flanking force only to take more kills including the big man then Michael. We called it there, but it was only to test out the rule system and we will be gaming more of this period in a few weeks when Michael paints up more Aussies an I finish painting a further section of Japanese with some support weapons.
Here are some photos of the game using Michael's terrain. The figures are all from Company B/Brigade Games. The Type 95 is from the same company and was thrown in for some eye candy. This was my first attempt at painting an AFV. Oh, an I've worked out a better way in painting my Japanese, in particular their faces etc.
Please enjoy an I do recommend the rule system to anyone who has been chasing the grail for a long time.
Helen
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Cool looking board, Helen!!
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Very nicely done. As a student of Japanese armor and someone who is very picky about identification, painting, etc., let me just tell you that your Type 95 is, far and away, one of the best I've seen. Particularly impressive since painting AFVs is new for you.
Brilliant!
-Alex
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Very nice Helen. I really like the game board. I'm working on 20mm Japanese at the moment, so definitely like to see people's terrain.
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As a student of Japanese armor and someone who is very picky about identification, painting, etc.,
Never ever look at mine then. ;)
Very frothworthy table. 8)
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Very nice!
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Never ever look at mine then. ;)
Very frothworthy table. 8)
lol
I'm sure it's fine, Wk. I just get annoyed when major wargaming and military history sources mislabel Japanese armor and then provide their products as being "well researched." (I'm looking at you, Battlefront and Osprey!;) )
It's not like it's that hard to go to the library and pick up a book;)
Hey, other guys get to froth over German tanks. I do it with the crappy stuff (Italian, Japanese, Hungarian, etc.).. it's my little corner of rivet counting nerd-dom.
-Doc
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Hi Guys,
Thank you all for your kind comments. Michael an I are busy painting up more forces for the next engagement.
Michael has very simple but effective terrain.
Doc, I've on the project three Type 89s to do which will be for the Bougainville campaign.
Thanks,
Helen
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Very tasty indeed Helen :-*
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Hi Guys,
Thank you all for your kind comments. Michael an I are busy painting up more forces for the next engagement.
Michael has very simple but effective terrain.
Doc, I've on the project three Type 89s to do which will be for the Bougainville campaign.
Thanks,
Helen
OOh... Type 89s. Company B, I assume? I look forward to seeing them. That's one of the vehicles I don't have in my 20mm collection yet. Bougainville is a good excuse to find some.
-Doc
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OOh... Type 89s. Company B, I assume? I look forward to seeing them. That's one of the vehicles I don't have in my 20mm collection yet. Bougainville is a good excuse to find some.
-Doc
Hi Doc,
My project is for the South West Pacific. I'm working on the Japanese followed by th USMC raiders of which I've all in my pile ready for painting over the next year or more.
When I was on Bougainville I came across a number of Japanese relics of which the Type 89 was one. I e-mailed Taki and he sent me back this reply:
"Type 89 Medium Tanks on Bougainville were from 4th Southsea Garrison Unit(later, 38th Independent Mixed Brigade). Four Type 89 tanks landed atTarina or Talina*, the north end of Bougainville in Sept. 1943. The tankunit was deployed in the east coast of Tarina Peninsula. In March 1945,one tank was destroyed by Allied airraid. In May, tank unit abandonnedtanks and retreated to Numanuma*, middle east of Bougainville."
Helen
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Helen -
Great information, thank you! Taki is a goldmine. His stuff was very helpful for me when I was building my old website on the subject. I had no idea there were 89s on Bougainville, but it's a fascinating campaign, and a great excuse to pick some up! I've got just about everything else - even a Chi-Nu, but no Type 89. Disgraceful, really, as I've got Chinese troops, too, and the 89s were very active in China. I'll need to acquire some.
I do plan to do some Japanese for my own company, eventually, in M1930 uniforms with "Cherry Blossom" helmets, in 28mm. I'm hoping to get those into production sooner than later, hopefully next wave. Early for Bougainville, but very useful nonetheless, I think.
You're Down Under, aren't you? Are you familiar with an operation called "Ostmodels"? He does a lot of obscure subjects in 1/76 resin. Any knowledge of his product?
Incidentally, there are photos from the Bougainville memorial garden online, just saw them today, and they have a Type 89 sitting there. Looks to be in halfway decent shape. Maybe it's a wreck on the inside, but looks like someone took the time to paint it, at least. I envy you that you've been there. The battlefield archaeology on some of the Pacific islands is just fantastic!
-Doc
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Doc T, I actually visited Anker, who was the man behind Ostmodels, back in 1990 and had an opportunity to see his back yard production and talk about his production philosophy. Esoteric vehicles were his main interest but to produce something, it needed to have a viable market. His pieces are meant to be a wargaming piece and in those days they were of very good quality. I still have a number of unmade pieces as I no longer game in 1/76 (or 20mm). I have some Japanese stuff languishing in a box in the shed if you can PM me with your wants or I can send you a couple as examples. No doubt, we can reach an accommodation when your pieces are in production ;) .
PS, I also visited Gramodels, Cromwell, ALBY & Richard Houston as well as others I can't recall, that same year/trip, it was a great trip.
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Helen -
Great information, thank you! Taki is a goldmine. His stuff was very helpful for me when I was building my old website on the subject. I had no idea there were 89s on Bougainville, but it's a fascinating campaign, and a great excuse to pick some up! I've got just about everything else - even a Chi-Nu, but no Type 89. Disgraceful, really, as I've got Chinese troops, too, and the 89s were very active in China. I'll need to acquire some.
I do plan to do some Japanese for my own company, eventually, in M1930 uniforms with "Cherry Blossom" helmets, in 28mm. I'm hoping to get those into production sooner than later, hopefully next wave. Early for Bougainville, but very useful nonetheless, I think.
You're Down Under, aren't you? Are you familiar with an operation called "Ostmodels"? He does a lot of obscure subjects in 1/76 resin. Any knowledge of his product?
Incidentally, there are photos from the Bougainville memorial garden online, just saw them today, and they have a Type 89 sitting there. Looks to be in halfway decent shape. Maybe it's a wreck on the inside, but looks like someone took the time to paint it, at least. I envy you that you've been there. The battlefield archaeology on some of the Pacific islands is just fantastic!
-Doc
Thanks Poiter, I was going to recommend yourself as the font of all knowledge on the Ostmodels.
Doc, When I was there the type 89 was in long grass an I did manged to get inside. Not a vehicle for the faint hearted!
I do have three Company B Type 89s cast by Jeff and they are beautiful models. Each one will have a crew commander just because I can!
Cheers,
Helen
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Here are some extra photos of my latest painted additions to my Japanese. I really enjoy painting the Company B/Brigade Games Japanese.
I hope you like them.
Helen
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You are insanely talented, my dear woman:) Beautiful as always.
You say you managed to get inside the Type 89? Manage to get any photos of the interior? What was it like in there, other than crowded?;)
-Doc
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nice stuff helen,
tank is excellent :D
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You are insanely talented, my dear woman:) Beautiful as always.
You say you managed to get inside the Type 89? Manage to get any photos of the interior? What was it like in there, other than crowded?;)
-Doc
Thanks guys,
No Doc, no photos of the interior, rudimentary if I may say so, AFAIK the interior was very cramped and there was asbestos.
Helen
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Nice work once again Helen. I like the variety of shades you gave to your Japanese soldiers. It look great.
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Very nice. :)
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Thanks again guys for your lovely comments.
I must say that I'm enjoying painting these miniatures on an individual basis.
Helen
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Well Helen....I almost hesitate to post these photos lol but I pass this Type 95 on the work every day
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and clearly you have yours painted all wrong!! Yeah Doc Twilight you too!! o_o o_o
Yes, it has been repainted (probably many times) since WWII, also note the animatronic dinosaur in the background,plus there is a 47 mm AT gun nearby and other WWII remains plus elephants, rhinos, etc.
To post a more serious comment Helen, even though your terrain is very nice I think that it has serious problems. I'm a guy that has spent a lot of time in the jungle and on WWII jungle battle grounds and your terrain is WAY WAY too open. Jungle terrain is very overgrown and visibility is highly limited. To me this is most clear in fire lanes being cleared at knee level and below so that Marines entering into HMG zones of fire were not even conscious of it until the damn woodpecker opened up on them and knocked them down and then really chewed them up. The dense jungle also really made combined arms operations important. The armor blasted everything around it but was terribly vulnerable because of limited visibility through periscopes and drivers slits and the heavy vegetation. The tankers needed the poor bloody infantry around them to keep off infiltrating Japanese with magnetic mines and other means to knock them out. I really can not imagine what it was like to be inside an AFV in the jungle. I was just working with some Seabees today and they were complaining of the heat on an OK day with some breeze. Imagine yourself locked up tight in a metal box under fire in fetid jungle terrain.
LB
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It isn't always practical from a gaming point of view to have realistically dense foliage. For all we know Helen's terrain is just representative. Just because there isn't a model tree or bush on every square inch of the table, it doesn't mean that in your game you aren't considering the terrain to that dense.
I agree that it's good to have as much foliage as possible in tropical games (though mine are in Africa rather than the South Seas), but sometimes you have to make compromises for playability (and getting sick of making all those plants! :)).
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Very nice Helen!
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Thanks LB, Dylan and Argyris,
LB, we are only representing the terrain for playability and factors have been incorporated to reflect such - Nice photo of the type 95 by the way!
When I was on Bougainville the jungle was so dense it was impossible to see into the jungle for a couple of meters. Yet when you are in the jungle especially along the water courses it can be so open an is like a natural corridor. Naturally, the further you ascend the denser it gets in most parts or where man has been. SE Asia is the same an I found towards the southern end of Malaysia the jungle is very dense as well. East Timor is mainly like Australia's Northern Terrority (quite open), however there are parts where it's quite dense - I've seen my time in the jungle
Helen
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Helen and Plynkes,
Point taken on the board being representative and there being different jungle conditions in different places. I guess that it is just a personal hangup about jungle games I like to see lots of vegetation on the table even if it messes with game mechanics.
LB
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Helen and Plynkes,
Point taken on the board being representative and there being different jungle conditions in different places. I guess that it is just a personal hangup about jungle games I like to see lots of vegetation on the table even if it messes with game mechanics.
LB
That's okay LB we are looking forward in seeing more of your collection and gaming boards too.
Helen
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Lovely stuff Helen, great looking game.
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Helen, your Ha go is much better painted than mine!!!!! Arghhhhh :o
Arrigo