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Other Stuff => Workbench => Topic started by: Coronasan on 06 September 2020, 05:07:38 PM
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A few months ago, there was a post here about pimping up an MDF church kit, which was really well done. So I thought I would have a go at doing the same thing with my own MDF church.
I have already posted on the cardboard tile roof I have been working on:
(https://coronasan.files.wordpress.com/2020/07/church-build-10.jpg)
The rest of the church is a pretty standard MDF build...
(https://mdfconstruction.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/church-nave-3.jpg)
...a couple of boxes joined together
(https://mdfconstruction.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/church-tower-4.jpg)
...and then some buttresses
(https://mdfconstruction.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/church-buttresses-3.jpg)
Once that was done, I used some ready made filler for the church walls and tower. Using a 1" brush, I stippled the filler to get rid of brush marks and give a stone effect.
(https://coronasan.files.wordpress.com/2020/08/church-build-11.jpg)
I started with tower in case it all went horribly wrong and I had to replace just that rather than the whole thing.
I have undercoated the tower section with a Homebase charcoal tester paint and will drybrush it up much lighter.
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I like that stipple effect. Think it's the first time I've seen that and will watch the drybrushing with interest.
I had a tube of wood filler that had gone gritty and gave a great result on MDF but it finally solidified on me and the replacement is smooth as it should be.
Did you wet the brush at all?
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Did you wet the brush at all?
Doing the first two test bits was quite hard work as the filler was quite dry, so I scooped a bit out and into a yogurt pot and then added a few drops of water to thin it down. I could then "paint" it on much easier before stippling to get rid of the brush marks. This really made the Nave much easier to do.
(https://coronasan.files.wordpress.com/2020/08/church-build-12.jpg)
(https://coronasan.files.wordpress.com/2020/08/church-build-13.jpg)
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That looks really good. Where is the model from?
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Looking forward to seeing how you get on.
As I really enjoy reading how other people tackle Church builds. Personally I think a Church is really versatile piece of scenery that's often overlooked.
I got a little carried away with adding an interior to my own as it's used for Pulp and fantasy games as well as Historical.
Do you intend on an interior for your church? (I know how much extra works involved as an interior is effectively you building/painting a second model.So I was wondering if you were of a more sensible nature than myself.)
Mark.
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I got a little carried away with adding an interior to my own as it's used for Pulp and fantasy games as well as Historical.
Do you intend on an interior for your church? (I know how much extra works involved as an interior is effectively you building/painting a second model.So I was wondering if you were of a more sensible nature than myself.)
I am only going to add some wall panel type bits to cover up the internal tabs, it certainly will not be historically accurate.
But I do have some pews!
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That looks really good. Where is the model from?
Thanks, it is my own design, which I have been working on for my Tudorish style town. Not historically accurate, but designed with plenty of access and space for figures.
I have been learning how to use the design software and getting Jim at Products For Wargamers to cut the results for me. My problem is that I am always looking at ways to improve a design so they never get finished. This church has been in the works since February.
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Great project! One suggestion: if you plan to do anything to the interior walls, it's easiest to do it *prior* to assembly. I don't know if everything we see here is already glued together or just dry fit. If it's just dry fit, you might consider doing the interior paint and/or wall details before going any further. It's just a pain to try to reach down inside and paint anything seriously.
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I have to agree with Phil. If you've still the opportunity to do the interior before construction do so.
I simply made drop in floors and wall panels.Which if you've already glued the church together is probably an easier remedy than trying to get paint into all the nooks and crannies.
Even more so as it's your own CAD work. A quick tweak and print, and you'd have perfect bespoke drop in panel's of painted/or printed wall's and floor.
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Great project! One suggestion: if you plan to do anything to the interior walls, it's easiest to do it *prior* to assembly. I don't know if everything we see here is already glued together or just dry fit. If it's just dry fit, you might consider doing the interior paint and/or wall details before going any further. It's just a pain to try to reach down inside and paint anything seriously.
I have been dithering over the interior, but the interior wals have been undercoated and I am working on some new bits that will drop in.
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(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=126775.0;attach=132306;image)
That is a really nicely detailed interior, not something I was planning to do, I was going to add a few pews and call it done.
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Having undercoated the whole church with a Homebase Charcoal tester pot, I have drybrushed a section with another Homebase tester pot of Fine Sand.
(https://coronasan.files.wordpress.com/2020/09/church-build-16.jpg)
Phew, it looks okay!
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Cheers.
I've included a different view of the interior my parish church. Just to show some of the simple tweaks that help add character to my church. As I realized after a couple of games with my previous Chapel . The pews soon get taken out in order to play the interior . Or often just left in the box to start with.
So adding a little detail to the floor and walls kept the church 'vibe' going once the roof and tower were removed.
I went with a leaded roof simply because I was roof tiled out when it came the church.I keep chickening out from making a second lead roof painted in true medieval in your face bright colours and heraldry.
I do like the fact you took the time to build a jig for cutting roof tiles .A tool I'm sure will soon pay for it's self in time saved.
Out of curiosity have you CAD the pews or scratch built them?
It appears to be quite a substantial interior space. Are you planning on a pulpit , or an Altar on a dais?
The wooden features in my Church are just cereal packet card. Are you going to put something similar across the arched opening in the tower just imply a Chior balcony?
Just seen the test piece on the tower(notification came up whilst fetching a preview). I think that's pretty good to me .
It's got lovely flint feel to it.
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Having undercoated the whole church with a Homebase Charcoal tester pot, I have drybrushed a section with another Homebase tester pot of Fine Sand.
Yikes! :-*
That looks really nice.
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Out of curiosity have you CAD the pews or scratch built them?
It appears to be quite a substantial interior space. Are you planning on a pulpit , or an Altar on a dais?
The wooden features in my Church are just cereal packet card. Are you going to put something similar across the arched opening in the tower just imply a Chior balcony?
(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=126775.0;attach=132351;image)
You have inspired me! I am going to make some partition sections like you have there on the right, I can make them removeable as well.
Once I have the basic wall panels fitted, I can then start thinking about adding an altar or pulpit.
The floor in my church is planking, but I think I will make a drop-in stone effect floor with some interesting designs on it, at least I will try.
The pews are also MDF, I have a basic design but may try out something a bit more fancy.
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I really like Tin Shed Gamer's church interior so I have decided to do up the interior of my own build buy adding some extra details.
(https://coronasan.files.wordpress.com/2020/09/church-build-17.jpg)
There is a bunch of test bits in there so I plan to see what works and what does not.
(https://coronasan.files.wordpress.com/2020/09/church-build-18.jpg)
I have painted the interior walls a light colour and the floor a dark wood.
(https://coronasan.files.wordpress.com/2020/09/church-build-21.jpg)
The interior wall panels are designed to cover up the tabs from the buttresses on the outside and provide some interior window frames.
(https://coronasan.files.wordpress.com/2020/09/church-build-22.jpg)
I will paint these a light grey to add a bit of contrast.
(https://coronasan.files.wordpress.com/2020/09/church-build-19.jpg)
These bits also hide the join between the wall and the floor.
The next bits are the partitions that should slot into the gaps between the windows. I hope.
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That's a big building...
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:o
What a difference that makes! :-*
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Brilliant solution! Even if you did nothing further to decorate the interior, this makes it a far more appealing interior space. Keep showing us in-progress pics, it's wonderful to follow your work.
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I have finished the church, interior and all.
(https://coronasan.files.wordpress.com/2020/09/church-build-23.jpg)
After painting up the inside panels, they covered up all the tabs really well.
(https://coronasan.files.wordpress.com/2020/09/church-build-28.jpg)
I made a few different versions of the partitions, but settled on these two.
(https://coronasan.files.wordpress.com/2020/09/church-build-24.jpg)
The partitions cunningly slot into the gaps between the inside window frames.
(https://coronasan.files.wordpress.com/2020/09/church-build-26.jpg)
(https://coronasan.files.wordpress.com/2020/09/church-build-27.jpg)
I also made some pews...
(https://coronasan.files.wordpress.com/2020/09/church-build-25.jpg)
So basically I am calling this finished...
(https://coronasan.files.wordpress.com/2020/09/church-build-29.jpg)
...with tall tower or short tower
(https://coronasan.files.wordpress.com/2020/09/church-build-30.jpg)
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But... where's the pipe organ, hmmm?
Great work! Can you describe how you go about creating these mdf pieces on a whim?
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Yep!
That came out really nice! ;D
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Very nice — let's go shoot that place up now!
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But... where's the pipe organ, hmmm?
That sounds like a challenge!
Great work! Can you describe how you go about creating these mdf pieces on a whim?
A few years ago, I started trying to use a dodgy Chinese mdf drawing package and really struggled at first, even to do basic editing. After a good few stiff drinks I managed to do some basic houses (boxes really) and have been drawing more and more over the last year or so.
Jim at Products For Wargamers cuts my designs for me, so there is a time issue in me drawing something and actually getting it cut to see if it works.
This church is part of my bigger Tudorish town project which has been on the go for most of COVID...
So you want a pipe organ do you?
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That's turned out very nicely! I really must get back to my church at some point and finish the interior and the windows. Poor thing has a floor, an altar, a finished exterior, but nothing else...
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I think it's worth acknowledging . The nice combination of form and function. With the window surrounds acting as the suppots for the partitions.Whilst remaining a decorative feature when the screens are removed.
Nicely done Sir.
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So you want a pipe organ do you?
Well, I saw that big empty arched space in the back of the tower, overlooking the pews area of the church, and thought, what a great place for a pipe organ!
Great project. Can't wait to see more Tudorish village shots.
Personally, I now have 5 half-timbered houses, one kit, two kitbashed and two scratchbuilt. I can also opt to split the kitbashed 2-story houses into two one-story houses (if I ignore practical matters like needing a front door). So getting closer to being able to field a nice-looking village for an RPG session, or a small section of a fantasy-medieval city.
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Splendid looking church! Even though I will never use the interior I'm tempted to tart up the inside of my TT church ,which is just a range of beige at the moment, the screens work particularly well!
Best Iain