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Title: Has anyone gamed Stirling Bridge, Bannockburn etc?
Post by: 10thMountain on September 07, 2020, 09:49:28 AM
Hello,
      I am looking for 28mm miniatures for the Scottish Rebellion circa 1298?
Thank you
Title: Re: Has anyone gamed Stirling Bridge, Bannockburn etc?
Post by: Atheling on September 07, 2020, 11:28:46 AM
Years ago. Many years ago. Bannockburn. I think we were using Revenge and given the (very) non historical set up of the English army they slaughtered the Scots. Not very satisfying at all. From what I remember we felt that just setting the English up in their historical positions would have been crazy so we opted for the English players to deploy how they chose.

Basically the English army predictably sat back, peppered the schiltrons with arrows and despite the Scots advance it was all too little too late.

EDIT: Sorry, I forgot to put in the link to Antediluvian Miniatures Scottish Wars of Independence range:
https://antediluvianminiatures.wordpress.com/2018/02/07/shop-historical-range/ (https://antediluvianminiatures.wordpress.com/2018/02/07/shop-historical-range/)
Pic:
(https://antediluvianminiatures.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/wbss2.jpg)
Title: Re: Has anyone gamed Stirling Bridge, Bannockburn etc?
Post by: nicknorthstar on September 07, 2020, 11:36:56 AM
This range from Crusader Miniatures looks close enough, especially if you want to recreate the painting of the battle.

https://www.crusaderminiatures.com/list.php?cat=5&sub=56&page=1 (https://www.crusaderminiatures.com/list.php?cat=5&sub=56&page=1)

(http://www.thesocietyofwilliamwallace.com/Gallery/History%20Pics/Stiling%20Brig%201.jpg)
Title: Re: Has anyone gamed Stirling Bridge, Bannockburn etc?
Post by: 10thMountain on September 07, 2020, 12:18:48 PM
Great!!! What do you recommend for the English? I was thinking of using Footsore Miniatures Baron's War range?
Title: Re: Has anyone gamed Stirling Bridge, Bannockburn etc?
Post by: Atheling on September 07, 2020, 12:29:07 PM
Great!!! What do you recommend for the English? I was thinking of using Footsore Miniatures Baron's War range?

They're too early for Striling Bridge/Bannockburn though some of the lesser armed mini's such as the spearmen and longbowmen could be pressed into service.

Personally I would try some of the Claymore Castings men at arms, not the knights (a bit too late).

It's a difficult one as there is no comprehensive dedicated range except the Andedivulian range which mainly covers the Scots.

It's going to be a case of mixing and matching plus converting if you want to go that route  ???
Title: Re: Has anyone gamed Stirling Bridge, Bannockburn etc?
Post by: rampantlion on September 07, 2020, 04:03:24 PM
I have done both several times.  The Scots have a better chance of winning Bannockburn in my opinion, but both require the English to make a lot of mistakes I think.  If it is a scenario driven game which assumes the English make the same mistakes, it is a fun game, but still a difficult win for the Scots I think.  It is my favorite time period in history, but none of the battles are my favorite battles...weird I guess.
Title: Re: Has anyone gamed Stirling Bridge, Bannockburn etc?
Post by: Skyven on September 07, 2020, 05:16:25 PM
You could also try eBob's Rebellion range (http://www.ebobminiatures.com/medieval---rebellion.html) and rules (http://www.ebobminiatures.com/rules-and-downloads.html)
Title: Re: Has anyone gamed Stirling Bridge, Bannockburn etc?
Post by: Atheling on September 07, 2020, 05:27:05 PM
You could also try eBob's Rebellion range (http://www.ebobminiatures.com/medieval---rebellion.html) and rules (http://www.ebobminiatures.com/rules-and-downloads.html)

Just don't buy the Scots commoners..... they're a little Braveheart!   lol
Title: Re: Has anyone gamed Stirling Bridge, Bannockburn etc?
Post by: Codsticker on September 07, 2020, 10:27:52 PM

EDIT: Sorry, I forgot to put in the link to Antediluvian Miniatures Scottish Wars of Independence range:
https://antediluvianminiatures.wordpress.com/2018/02/07/shop-historical-range/ (https://antediluvianminiatures.wordpress.com/2018/02/07/shop-historical-range/)
Pic:
(https://antediluvianminiatures.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/wbss2.jpg)
Beautiful models from head to toe but the most impressive sculpting about them is the hands- incredible...
Title: Re: Has anyone gamed Stirling Bridge, Bannockburn etc?
Post by: Atheling on September 07, 2020, 11:31:18 PM
Beautiful models from head to toe but the most impressive sculpting about them is the hands- incredible...

Yep, i consider them masterpieces  8)
Title: Re: Has anyone gamed Stirling Bridge, Bannockburn etc?
Post by: Johnp4000 on September 08, 2020, 07:54:01 PM
Just don't buy the Scots commoners..... they're a little Braveheart!   lol

Have you ever seen the ebob figures? How do they scale with claymore etc? The personality figures look bulkier than the standard foot types.
Title: Re: Has anyone gamed Stirling Bridge, Bannockburn etc?
Post by: Atheling on September 08, 2020, 08:47:18 PM
Have you ever seen the ebob figures? How do they scale with claymore etc? The personality figures look bulkier than the standard foot types.

The ebob mini's are much slighter in stature when compared to any other medieval range for the time period in 28mm that I can think of. about 25mm tall max.
Title: Re: Has anyone gamed Stirling Bridge, Bannockburn etc?
Post by: Johnp4000 on September 08, 2020, 08:50:49 PM
The ebob mini's are much slighter in stature when compared to any other medieval range for the time period in 28mm that I can think of. about 25mm tall max.

It is strange, never seen anyone with these figures, those rebellion rules look very professionally produced but can't come across any reviews?
Title: Re: Has anyone gamed Stirling Bridge, Bannockburn etc?
Post by: Atheling on September 08, 2020, 10:28:16 PM
It is strange, never seen anyone with these figures, those rebellion rules look very professionally produced but can't come across any reviews?

I can't really help you as I have never played the game. Someone out there must have given them a whirl? might be worth putting up a separate post?
Title: Re: Has anyone gamed Stirling Bridge, Bannockburn etc?
Post by: bluewillow on September 09, 2020, 12:19:27 PM
I have fought them several times as it is a favourite period of mine, from 1260 second barons war and the welsh wars and then the wars of Scotland under Edward.

Great!!! What do you recommend for the English? I was thinking of using Footsore Miniatures Baron's War range?

Foot sores range Is too early, look at Mirliton, Gripping Beast, First Corps, foot you could be the plastic fireforge with shield swap outs, I also use some old glory bits too.


For the later armies I use claymore miniatures and Mirliton knights.
Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: Has anyone gamed Stirling Bridge, Bannockburn etc?
Post by: Whitwort Stormbringer on September 09, 2020, 04:51:31 PM
It is strange, never seen anyone with these figures, those rebellion rules look very professionally produced but can't come across any reviews?

An early version of the rules, which was available free on the website iirc, had many similarities with Games Workshop's Lord of the Rings skirmish rules, which for me was a plus. It wasn't restricted to just d6s, though, and there were some differences that I can't recall.

Unfortunately I don't know if the current (very nice-looking) rules share that lineage, or are an entirely new set of rules. I couldn't find any reviews either, and I think they're a bit pricey for me to consider buying without knowing more.