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Title: Neapolitan infantry c. 1512
Post by: Sandinista on 10 September 2020, 09:07:07 AM
Would the infantry of Naples have been organised into colunelas similar to the Spanish?
Can anyone recommend some good reading on the military side of Naples in this period?

Cheers
Ian
Title: Re: Neapolitan infantry c. 1512
Post by: Atheling on 10 September 2020, 10:14:57 AM
Essential reading on the subject tat is still readily availble- some you may know but I'll list them anyway in the event that anyone else asks something similar:

The Italian Wars 1494-1559: War, State and Society in Early Modern Europe (Modern Wars In Perspective), Christine Shaw, Michael Mallett
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Italian-Wars-1494-1559-Modern-Perspective/dp/1138739049/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=the+great+italian+wars&qid=1599728820&sr=8-4 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Italian-Wars-1494-1559-Modern-Perspective/dp/1138739049/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=the+great+italian+wars&qid=1599728820&sr=8-4)

Mercenaries and Their Masters: Warfare in Renaissance Italy, Michael Mallett
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mercenaries-Their-Masters-Warfare-Renaissance/dp/1526765543/ref=pd_bxgy_2/261-8147986-3794627?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=1526765543&pd_rd_r=8d8cc69b-7e77-4739-a4a8-3557dbb4d003&pd_rd_w=QVoC1&pd_rd_wg=iNAPI&pf_rd_p=dcf35746-0212-418b-a148-30395d107b2d&pf_rd_r=N3VS2620GXX30VYBRQHC&psc=1&refRID=N3VS2620GXX30VYBRQHC (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mercenaries-Their-Masters-Warfare-Renaissance/dp/1526765543/ref=pd_bxgy_2/261-8147986-3794627?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=1526765543&pd_rd_r=8d8cc69b-7e77-4739-a4a8-3557dbb4d003&pd_rd_w=QVoC1&pd_rd_wg=iNAPI&pf_rd_p=dcf35746-0212-418b-a148-30395d107b2d&pf_rd_r=N3VS2620GXX30VYBRQHC&psc=1&refRID=N3VS2620GXX30VYBRQHC)

War and Society in Renaissance Europe, 1450-1620, J. R., Hale
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Society-Renaissance-Europe-1450-1620-European/dp/0750916028/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=renaissance+warfare+Hale&qid=1599729004&s=books&sr=1-2 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Society-Renaissance-Europe-1450-1620-European/dp/0750916028/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=renaissance+warfare+Hale&qid=1599729004&s=books&sr=1-2)

The Art of War in Italy, 1494-1529: the Transition From Mediaeval to Modern Warfare During the Renaissance,  F. L. Taylor
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Art-War-Italy-1494-1529-Renaissance/dp/0857068156/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=the+art+of+war+in+italy&qid=1599729131&s=books&sr=1-1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Art-War-Italy-1494-1529-Renaissance/dp/0857068156/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=the+art+of+war+in+italy&qid=1599729131&s=books&sr=1-1)

There are more but these are all great starting points.

As to fashion, you will really have to delve quite deep as most of the 'fashion' books I've found for the Renaissance have been quite expensive.

If you're looking for 28mm miniatures for Neapolitan infantry then you really don't have to look any further then the excellent Assault Group range more or less specific to the time period you mentioned:
(https://theassaultgroup.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/d_2542.jpg)
Link:
https://theassaultgroup.co.uk/product-category/renaissance/italian/ (https://theassaultgroup.co.uk/product-category/renaissance/italian/)
Title: Re: Neapolitan infantry c. 1512
Post by: Sandinista on 11 September 2020, 01:05:14 AM
Cheers, I have Mercenaries and Their Masters and The Art of War in Italy, 1494-1529. I will look out for the others.

I was unable to find mention of whether the Neapolitan infantry was reorganised along the same lines as the Spanish infantry. I was wondering if in this stage of the war writers just lump together the Neapolitan forces in Spanish armies as Spanish, hence not finding anything?

Cheers
Ian
Title: Re: Neapolitan infantry c. 1512
Post by: Wirelizard on 13 September 2020, 04:33:53 AM
Wouldn't Neapolitan infantry come in three flavours but fight in mixed formations?

 ;)
Title: Re: Neapolitan infantry c. 1512
Post by: Antonio J Carrasco on 14 September 2020, 06:49:50 AM
Cheers, I have Mercenaries and Their Masters and The Art of War in Italy, 1494-1529. I will look out for the others.

I was unable to find mention of whether the Neapolitan infantry was reorganised along the same lines as the Spanish infantry. I was wondering if in this stage of the war writers just lump together the Neapolitan forces in Spanish armies as Spanish, hence not finding anything?

Cheers
Ian

I don't think there was anything specifically "Spanish" in the colunelas beyond that it was a development implemented by Gonzalo Fernández de Córdoba when he went to Italy. Within his "colunelas" there were people from every "nation": Neapolitans, Greeks, Germans, Castilians, Aragonese, even the odd Englishman! Most of his arquebusiers hailed from the Spanish kingdoms, while the pikemen were a mixed lot and crossbowmen came from Southern Italy but that was circumstancial rather than intentional.