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Miniatures Adventure => Age of Myths, Gods and Empires => Topic started by: Melnibonean on 12 November 2020, 02:10:01 AM

Title: My New Army - Iberians, 15mm - Heavy Cavalry
Post by: Melnibonean on 12 November 2020, 02:10:01 AM: I wanted a new ancient project/army and after long deliberation I decided on Spanish. I then had to make a second decision and settled on Iberians. I put in a order to Xyston and after waiting for a long while due to this new fangled plague, that somehow affects mail services, they finally got to me half way around the world. Here's my first lot.

But, I'm not sure I like the basing. In fact, I'm considering rebasing all of my ancients because I'm sick of those fiddly 40x20mm bases. Any suggestions welcome.

More details on my blog at: https://this28mmlife.blogspot.com/2020/11/its-iberian-thing.html

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Title: Re: My New Army - Iberians, 15mm
Post by: OB on 12 November 2020, 02:16:57 PM: They look good.

I agree about the bases. Almost all my ancient infantry were once based like that and somehow it didn't satisfy. I shifted to 30x30mm bases and I like that better.
Title: Re: My New Army - Iberians, 15mm
Post by: mellis1644 on 12 November 2020, 02:46:00 PM: ADLG uses 40 x 40 or 40 x 30 bases for all but foot skirmish and warwagons - the old DBx basing still works but that removes a lot of the fiddly small bases.
Title: Re: My New Army - Iberians, 15mm
Post by: Burnin Coal on 12 November 2020, 03:40:40 PM: I have never delved into 15mm but have always greatly admired them when well painted....yours look very impressive indeed - lovely job....cannot comment on the base size other than to say that IMHO 15mm lends itself to having more figures on bigger bases...I look forward to seeing more
Title: Re: My New Army - Iberians, 15mm
Post by: rumacara on 12 November 2020, 09:32:49 PM: Very well painted. :-* :-*
Title: Re: My New Army - Iberians, 15mm
Post by: Melnibonean on 12 November 2020, 09:53:15 PM: Thanks for the positive comments folks.
ABout basing: I'm thinking more towards Impetus bases but I'm unsure how to go about it. Does anyone have any advice?
Title: Re: My New Army - Iberians, 15mm
Post by: madaxeman on 12 November 2020, 11:18:17 PM: Quote from: Melnibonean on 12 November 2020, 09:53:15 PM
Thanks for the positive comments folks.
ABout basing: I'm thinking more towards Impetus bases but I'm unsure how to go about it. Does anyone have any advice?

40x40 is a good half-way house. You will only need to move 2 of them together for a 'virtual' Impetus base, but as another poster says you can still play DBx-format games perfectly well - and there are very many systems that use a 40mm frontage.

At 40mm the extra depth means you don't have to (effectively) pose the figures in 2 ranks, which makes a big difference as well
Title: Re: My New Army - Iberians, 15mm
Post by: meninobesta on 13 November 2020, 10:16:14 AM: Quote from: madaxeman on 12 November 2020, 11:18:17 PM
40x40 is a good half-way house. You will only need to move 2 of them together for a 'virtual' Impetus base, but as another poster says you can still play DBx-format games perfectly well - and there are very many systems that use a 40mm frontage.

At 40mm the extra depth means you don't have to (effectively) pose the figures in 2 ranks, which makes a big difference as well

I also agree,
latelly I have been basing my 15mm like this, for DBx style wargames (Triumph) and even using this method for playing SAGA in 15mm
and I do the folling for all periods:
* 6 infantry/3 horse per base for formed units
* 3 infantry/2 horse for light/irregular units
* 1 miniature for charriots, artillery or monsters

PS: nice painting, by the way
Title: Re: My New Army - Iberians, 15mm
Post by: Mad Doc Morris on 16 November 2020, 11:40:10 AM: First off, a great looking, colourful bunch you have there. Off to a good start!

Quote from: Melnibonean on 12 November 2020, 09:53:15 PM
ABout basing: I'm thinking more towards Impetus bases but I'm unsure how to go about it. Does anyone have any advice?

Base sizes for (Basic) Impetus are listed here: http://www.dadiepiombo.it/basingimp.html
As you can see, officially you'd need four DBA infantry bases to make up one for Impetus. Some time ago I painted two 15mm Medieval armies and based them accordingly. Main advantage of larger basing to me is the posability of individual figures. Two ranks make any group of minis look like a unit. You even can get the impression of irregular shaped mobs in dense formations common to most premodern armies, i. e. before the rise of dedicated light infantry tactics. However, in the end I found Impetus bases too large and cumbersome for my liking. Thus I'd recommend to simply use deeper DBA bases in order to break up the boring single lines of miniatures. Of course, all due to gentlemen's agreement and your determination to stick with official measurements (e. g. for tournament play).
Title: Re: My New Army - Iberians, 15mm
Post by: Frostie on 16 November 2020, 03:59:46 PM: Very nice

I base all my new ancients in the Imputvs style, 80mm frontage. The look is great, i feel.
Title: Re: My New Army - Iberians, 15mm
Post by: Melnibonean on 17 November 2020, 02:17:31 AM: Thanks guys. Plenty of advice here. I'm keen to try Imptvs basing but I'm still not sure how to do it effectively. I have some more Iberians almost ready so I'll experiment with them and see how I go.
Title: Re: My New Army - Iberians, 15mm
Post by: wmyers on 17 November 2020, 04:48:13 AM: I disagree, the shields are something special. Well done!
Title: Re: My New Army - Iberians, 15mm
Post by: Melnibonean on 24 November 2020, 02:40:25 AM: After a bit of thinking and reading other peoples comments I decided to try out the larger Impetus style of basing. It looks okay and it has saved me a few figures because I can use less figures per base. More importantly - Less figures means less painting, means getting them on the table quicker. it's a win all 'round.

My blog: https://this28mmlife.blogspot.com/2020/11/more-iberians-alternative-basing.html

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Title: Re: My New Army - Iberians, 15mm
Post by: duivelindoosje on 24 November 2020, 10:17:10 AM: nice paint job
Title: Re: My New Army - Iberians, 15mm
Post by: Ray Rivers on 24 November 2020, 12:33:31 PM: Excellent looking army! :-*

Well done!
Title: Re: My New Army - Iberians, 15mm
Post by: Phil Portway on 26 November 2020, 01:00:07 PM: Quote from: mellis1644 on 12 November 2020, 02:46:00 PM
ADLG uses 40 x 40 or 40 x 30 bases for all but foot skirmish and warwagons - the old DBx basing still works but that removes a lot of the fiddly small bases.

This is what I use for Sword & Spear now days, although I still have 60 or so pre cut 40 x 15mm & 40 x 20mm steel bases to use up. But I cut magnetic double depth and stick the two base together that way.
Title: Re: My New Army - Iberians, 15mm
Post by: Phil Portway on 26 November 2020, 01:00:46 PM: Super looking army BTW, very colourful!
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Title: Re: My New Army - Iberians, 15mm
Post by: Melnibonean on 01 March 2021, 11:43:37 AM: It's been a while since I last painted these chaps. This is because I ordered them from Xyston and they got caught up in Australian customs for about 3 months. So by the time they got into my hot little hands my enthusiasm had waned somewhat. I started on them but the spark just wasn't there. But I got back to painting them in the past week or so and I have these new additions:

Some light horse.
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Noble Scutarii
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Balearic Slingers
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My whole little army to date. Not enough to face the big guys but enough to make up a respectable allied force.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rOgj3lJL5m0/YDoDoKT3SpI/AAAAAAAAdcQ/fdlVrcpKKOQZI3VvkCKlfHtmMRLXQaFCgCNcBGAsYHQ/s1000/Iberians_Feb21.jpg)

Ther's more detail of my thoughts and whatnot on my blog at: https://this28mmlife.blogspot.com/2021/02/its-time-for-holiday-in-iberia.html
Title: Re: My New Army - Iberians, 15mm - New Additions
Post by: mellis1644 on 01 March 2021, 02:05:00 PM: Love the shields and details. I don't even get close to that when I try. :)
Title: Re: My New Army - Iberians, 15mm - New Additions
Post by: Melnibonean on 08 March 2021, 08:08:32 AM: Quote from: mellis1644 on 01 March 2021, 02:05:00 PM
Love the shields and details. I don't even get close to that when I try. :)

Thank you.

Here's my most recent additions to my Iberians. Some heavy/armoured cavalry and command. Still not enough of them to form their own army but enough for a good allied contingent.

More pics and chit chat and whatnot on my blog at: https://this28mmlife.blogspot.com/2021/03/did-you-say-you-want-more-iberians.html#comment-form

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