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Title: Recomendations for mid-priced paintbrushes?
Post by: Gundamentalist 5.56 on 31 December 2020, 12:53:23 AM
I opened my paintbox after more than 5 years sitting on top of a cupboard to prep for a project, and my trusty set of brushes don't look as good as they did.

What are peoples' recommendations for a good mid-priced brush range?

I'm UK-based, in possession of an Amazon gift card from Christmas and my next project is 12mm, not a scale I've painted before.

Many thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Recomendations for mid-priced paintbrushes?
Post by: Mindenbrush on 31 December 2020, 02:19:26 AM
Rosemary Series 33 short handle Kolinsky sable brushes, good quality brushes, reasonable price and UK based.
I switched from W&N Series 7 to Rosemary Series 33 about 6 years ago and don’t regret the move.
I have tried Pro-Arte and Army Painter but prefer Rosemary.
Title: Re: Recomendations for mid-priced paintbrushes?
Post by: Codsticker on 31 December 2020, 07:33:00 AM
Out of curiosity, what is considered 'mid priced'?
Title: Re: Recomendations for mid-priced paintbrushes?
Post by: Captain Harlock on 31 December 2020, 12:05:39 PM
Roubloff master series Kolinsky brushes. Better than W&N and a No2 goes for 7 euro. But even their cheaper series (even the synthetics) are good quality.
Title: Re: Recomendations for mid-priced paintbrushes?
Post by: fred on 31 December 2020, 01:23:07 PM
Rosemary Series 33 short handle Kolinsky sable brushes, good quality brushes, reasonable price and UK based.
I switched from W&N Series 7 to Rosemary Series 33 about 6 years ago and don’t regret the move.
I have tried Pro-Arte and Army Painter but prefer Rosemary.

These are good brushes. I paint lots of 10mm, and tend to use sizes 2, 1 and 0.
Title: Re: Recomendations for mid-priced paintbrushes?
Post by: Sir_Theo on 31 December 2020, 01:29:42 PM
Another recommendation for Rosemary and Co series 33 brushes. Very good brushes, reasonably priced.

https://www.rosemaryandco.com/watercolour-brushes/pure-kolinsky-pointed
Title: Re: Recomendations for mid-priced paintbrushes?
Post by: Gundamentalist 5.56 on 31 December 2020, 07:50:29 PM
Out of curiosity, what is considered 'mid priced'?
In my mind it was a sort of floaty amount but definitely less than GW.

Folks, thanks for the Rosemary recomedations. I checked them out and they look like what I was after price/quality wise.
Title: Re: Recomendations for mid-priced paintbrushes?
Post by: Orctrader on 31 December 2020, 08:43:51 PM
Another recommendation for Rosemary and Co series 33 brushes. Very good brushes, reasonably priced.

https://www.rosemaryandco.com/watercolour-brushes/pure-kolinsky-pointed
These are the brushes I use too, so another recommendation.
Title: Re: Recomendations for mid-priced paintbrushes?
Post by: SotF on 01 January 2021, 05:07:57 AM
I'd actually suggest going with some relatively cheap synthetic brushes to start with and get back into things before going for better brushes. While you're getting back into things, you can expect to trash a few brushes and it's easier to end up scrapping some cheaper ones than jumping in at the midlevel ones.

I've had some great cheap synthetics that have lasted forever with some basic maintenance.

The kolinsky and other natural hair brushes don't work as well with a lot of techniques and paints.
Title: Re: Recomendations for mid-priced paintbrushes?
Post by: Captain Blood on 01 January 2021, 10:09:05 AM
Rosemary Series 33 short handle Kolinsky sable brushes, good quality brushes, reasonable price and UK based.

Moi aussi.
Top quality. Reasonably priced. Also, superb service.

I’ve never understood the slavish devotion amongst so many wargames figure painters to W&N 7 series. They’re ridiculously expensive, and in my experience, no better than any other good quality sable hair brushes. I think it’s just a branding thing. They’ve acquired a reputation which is self-perpetuating. People are told they are the best, and so those who have bought into that brand then display confirmation bias and  dutifully repeat the ‘these are the best thing since sliced bread’ mantra - even though they’re merely one good quality product amongst many.
Title: Re: Recomendations for mid-priced paintbrushes?
Post by: SteveBurt on 01 January 2021, 01:55:42 PM
Moi aussi.
Top quality. Reasonably priced. Also, superb service.

I’ve never understood the slavish devotion amongst so many wargames figure painters to W&N 7 series. They’re ridiculously expensive, and in my experience, no better than any other good quality sable hair brushes. I think it’s just a branding thing. They’ve acquired a reputation which is self-perpetuating. People are told they are the best, and so those who have bought into that brand then display confirmation bias and  dutifully repeat the ‘these are the best thing since sliced bread’ mantra - even though they’re merely one good quality product amongst many.

I've tried quite a few other brands of sable brushes, and none hold their points as well as the W&N series 7. Figure painting is tough on brushes. So I find they actually work out cheaper as I have to replace them less often.
Title: Re: Recomendations for mid-priced paintbrushes?
Post by: Mindenbrush on 01 January 2021, 02:58:22 PM
Brushes are a regular subject here and it often comes down to what suits your painting style, products used and personal preferences.

I recently listened to the YouTube interview with Kevin Dallimore and Kevin says that when tasked to find a range of brushes for Foundry, he went to Pro-Arte and they just rebranded for him.
Based on that, I ordered so Pro-Arte Kolinsky Sable brushes - if they are good enough for KD, they are more than good enough for me!
Initially I could not get on with them, handle and bristles are longer than the Rosemary or W&N I am used to. Handle was easily sorted to get the right balance by cutting it back to the same length as Rosemary or W&N, the bristle length cannot be changed so for now I have put them back in their box and continue with the Rosemary brushes.
No doubt sometime in the future I will use them but not for now.

I also purchased a couple of Army Painter brushes from my local gaming store. No problem with the triangular handle but again the longer bristles caused me problems.i tend to use them just for any lining that is needed.

So, for me, it is very much a personal thing.
Title: Re: Recomendations for mid-priced paintbrushes?
Post by: Codsticker on 02 January 2021, 02:59:47 AM
At the risk of switching tracks here, has anybody seen (or even tried) these brushes from Warlord Games?
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0255/0949/4864/products/843419918SuperFineDetailBrush.jpg?v=1602872479)
Seems like a nifty idea to me; I am kinda clumsy so being able to replace the bristle end looks to be a good idea, it seems over-priced for synthetic bristles however.
Title: Re: Recomendations for mid-priced paintbrushes?
Post by: majorsmith on 03 January 2021, 10:51:38 AM
Historex agents handover sable brushes they are pretty cheap and good too
Title: Re: Recomendations for mid-priced paintbrushes?
Post by: Dr. Zombie on 05 January 2021, 11:55:23 AM
I really like these.
https://www.fredericus-rex.info/de/Farben-Pinsel-Zubehoer-Acrylfarben/Leonhardy-Pinsel-Produkte/Leonhardy-Kappel-Serie/

I have had a set I have used for 10+ years and last year I treated myself to a new set.
Title: Re: Recomendations for mid-priced paintbrushes?
Post by: Leunstoelgeneraalbd on 05 January 2021, 12:55:18 PM
Remember that brushes are needed for varying paintjobs. "Large" ones (think up to 5 or so) for large objects like hats, coats, basic colours, smaller ones for blanketrolls, rucksacks, the wooden part of a musket and the smallest ones for detail. I buy my "large" brushes at "Action" (example: see https://www.action.com/nl-nl/brand/van-bleiswijck/ - prices in Euro), and the smallest ones at "Aliexpress" - brushes for nail art (example: https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/4001264592055.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.3c3a3153rSuvDP&algo_pvid=null&algo_expid=null&btsid=2100bde116098507318054440e0e9c&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_) (sorry about the very long link). This last suggestion I found on this forum, BTW. By using all those cheap brushes I can spend some money on the "good" brushes mentioned above !