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Title: TWD's load of Billhooks (long overdue update 11 &12 Aug 25)
Post by: TWD on 07 January 2021, 07:17:31 PM
Slowly cranking out some of the Perry plastics for War of the Roses

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http://tomstoysoldiers.blogspot.com/2021/01/more-perry-war-of-roses-archers.html

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http://tomstoysoldiers.blogspot.com/2020/12/perry-war-of-roses-billmen.html

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http://tomstoysoldiers.blogspot.com/2020/11/perry-war-of-roses-archers.html

Thats the first box finished, next one is in the post.
Have some mounted MAA in the plastic pile, but am a bit intimidated by them!
Title: Re: TWD"s load of Billhooks
Post by: Bohica on 07 January 2021, 08:03:47 PM
Very Nice
Title: Re: TWD"s load of Billhooks
Post by: Cubs on 07 January 2021, 08:26:17 PM
Nice work. Another nudge for me to get mine done!
Title: Re: TWD"s load of Billhooks
Post by: syrinx0 on 08 January 2021, 04:50:31 PM
Excellent work.  It is a tempting period.
Title: Re: TWD"s load of Billhooks
Post by: James Morris on 08 January 2021, 06:45:59 PM
Great colour combos; certainly inspiring me to get more done (one day we might actually get to play with them!)

I think Contrast browns might be handy on the horses.
Title: Re: TWD"s load of Billhooks
Post by: Warboss Nick on 10 January 2021, 09:19:55 AM
Nice and efficient work!
Title: Re: TWD"s load of Billhooks
Post by: TWD on 04 February 2021, 07:27:07 PM
And another unit marches off toward Mortimer's Cross

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http://tomstoysoldiers.blogspot.com/2021/02/more-war-of-roses-billmen.html
Title: Re: TWD"s load of Billhooks (new unit finished 04 Feb)
Post by: Atheling on 04 February 2021, 08:30:29 PM
Crackin' stuff Tom  8)
Title: Re: TWD"s load of Billhooks (new unit finished 04 Feb)
Post by: Hu Rhu on 05 February 2021, 09:44:26 PM
Very nice.  :-*
Title: Re: TWD"s load of Billhooks (new unit finished 04 Feb)
Post by: TWD on 05 February 2021, 10:02:01 PM
Some Tudor Lancastrian knights

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http://tomstoysoldiers.blogspot.com/2021/02/war-of-roses-mounted-men-at-arms.html

Title: Re: TWD's load of Billhooks (mounted Men at Arms 05 Feb)
Post by: James Morris on 05 February 2021, 10:39:05 PM
Wow!  Yeah.  Those have come out very well indeed. Painted sallet helmets are just cool.
Title: Re: TWD's load of Billhooks (mounted Men at Arms 05 Feb)
Post by: mweaver on 05 February 2021, 11:48:50 PM
They look sharp! Looking forward to seeing more.

James: "Wow!  Yeah.  Those have come out very well indeed. Painted sallet helmets are just cool. "

How common was that practice?

-Michael
Title: Re: TWD's load of Billhooks (mounted Men at Arms 05 Feb)
Post by: TWD on 06 February 2021, 12:36:44 PM
How common was that practice?

-Michael

I have no idea. Lots of people seem to do it and it looks cool :)
I suspect there must be *some* evidence for it, but that it was nothing like as common as we wargamers like to show it. :)
Title: Re: TWD's load of Billhooks (mounted Men at Arms 05 Feb)
Post by: Charlie_ on 06 February 2021, 01:09:07 PM
Very nice work!

I have no idea. Lots of people seem to do it and it looks cool :)
I suspect there must be *some* evidence for it, but that it was nothing like as common as we wargamers like to show it. :)

There is evidence, and interestingly it points to painted helmets being something common soldiers did rather than the wealthier nobility. If you had money, it seems you paid to have your armour polished to a high sheen. If you didn't have money but still wanted it to look cool, you painted it yourself! There's definitely museum examples of sallets painted with chequer-board patterns, the actual shape and construction of the helmet itself being on the lower end of the scale. There's a good lecture Tobias Capwell on this subject which can probably be found somewhere on youtube.
Title: Re: TWD's load of Billhooks (mounted Men at Arms 05 Feb)
Post by: mweaver on 10 February 2021, 02:45:48 AM
Thanks for the responses. 

-Michael
Title: Re: TWD's load of Billhooks (mounted Men at Arms 05 Feb)
Post by: Breazer on 10 February 2021, 08:20:24 AM
very well done! It also seems this project is going at a steady pace. Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: TWD's load of Billhooks (mounted Men at Arms 05 Feb)
Post by: TWD on 09 May 2021, 01:35:47 PM
After a hiatus I finished some more archers
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(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-79mXbuhn_3Q/YJfTFYzjLNI/AAAAAAAAjuQ/homI-jbmt9E22VSnR-4S9QE2HZ-LxdwjgCLcBGAsYHQ/s400/PSX_20210509_102742.jpg)

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https://tomstoysoldiers.blogspot.com/2021/05/war-of-roses-archers.html
Title: Re: TWD's load of Billhooks (more archers 9 May)
Post by: KarwickWingmaker on 10 May 2021, 12:35:01 PM
Lovely painting!  :)

I’m pretty sure the Modern History channel on youtube has a video about wearing plate armour where the presenter talks briefly about paint being found on late medieval armour beyond just helmets.

I paint some of the livery colours on the helmets and sometimes even the back and breast.

I’m not expert, and am not trying to be, so I don’t mind some conjecture when painting my toy soldiers  ;)
Title: Re: TWD's load of Billhooks (more archers 9 May)
Post by: TWD on 25 May 2021, 10:09:49 PM
A couple of pictures of the blue and yellow units in action in our Barnet refight

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Many more pictures here:
http://tomstoysoldiers.blogspot.com/2021/05/battle-of-barnet-world-war-roses.html
Title: Re: TWD's load of Billhooks (battle of Barnet 25 May)
Post by: TWD on 05 June 2021, 07:43:02 AM
A unit of tooled up Men at Arms

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http://tomstoysoldiers.blogspot.com/2021/06/war-of-roses-men-at-arms.html
Title: Re: TWD's load of Billhooks (Men at Arms 5 June)
Post by: syrinx0 on 11 June 2021, 01:56:09 AM
Very nice.
Title: Re: TWD's load of Billhooks (Men at Arms 5 June)
Post by: Atheling on 11 June 2021, 10:47:56 AM
Lovely work Tom  :-*
Title: Re: TWD's load of Billhooks (Men at Arms 5 June)
Post by: TWD on 11 August 2025, 07:18:47 PM
Forgot I'd started this thread...

Anyway, a few things to add

Percy billmen
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And archers
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The King!
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Kern
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"Welsh" spearmen
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I think that brings things up to date
Title: Re: TWD's load of Billhooks (long overdue update 11 Aug 25)
Post by: TWD on 12 August 2025, 06:37:45 PM
A few more cavalry. These in Clifford's colours

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https://tomstoysoldiers.blogspot.com/2025/08/war-of-roses-light-horse.html
Title: Re: TWD's load of Billhooks (long overdue update 11 &12 Aug 25)
Post by: anton ryzbak on 13 August 2025, 01:05:11 AM
Where did you get your kern figures?

BTW, all your stuff looks simply smashing!
Title: Re: TWD's load of Billhooks (long overdue update 11 &12 Aug 25)
Post by: Cat on 13 August 2025, 01:41:46 AM
Ooh, lots of nice figures here!
 
Hopping back to the painted helmets question, it was a fairly popular thing throughout the medieval period — easier rust-proofing than always cleaning and polishing.
Title: Re: TWD's load of Billhooks (long overdue update 11 &12 Aug 25)
Post by: TWD on 13 August 2025, 08:26:17 AM
Where did you get your kern figures?

BTW, all your stuff looks simply smashing!

Thank you. The Kern are all Perry miniatures (as are all the models shown above except the King)