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Miniatures Adventure => The Second World War => Topic started by: tom_aargau on 26 January 2021, 05:17:58 PM
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Tamiya 1:48, inspired by the picture below...
(https://i.imgur.com/4RMWof2.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-57RBmZVTcpA/UzkgrqZ2OYI/AAAAAAAAAuI/658gKXWGPRE/s1600/sov-pant.jpg)
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The white star is interesting - for use in occupied germany maybe, between the end of WW2 and the start of the cold war?
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The white star is interesting - for use in occupied germany maybe, between the end of WW2 and the start of the cold war?
No, used during the war. The original photo is from a group showing captured Panthers with the 8th Guards Tank Corps circa 1944. There are examples from other units showing red stars and even the original camouflage scheme but I suspect the white star stood out more which is a desirable quality when using a captured vehicle.
Very nice work on the Tamiya kit. They are lovely models to build.
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One comment though - I assume it was personal choice to paint it all green, as opposed to just the turret? :)
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White star was used on lend lease as well as captured equipment
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On Soviet tanks, and in general on military equipment, stars were rarely depicted (except for aircraft). If such an image was applied, then it was the initiative of the tank crew themselves or some junior commander. Usually tactical numbers and the emblem of the military unit were applied. Slogans were also often written.
On captured military equipment, large identification marks were needed that were clearly visible from afar. For an understandable reason - so as not to be exposed to friendly fire. The red color will be poorly visible from afar on a dark background, but the white one is clearly visible.
(http://cdn.fishki.net/upload/post/201507/26/1608371/trofejnye-pantery-risunko.jpg)
(http://www.tehnikapobedy.ru/materials/pz5aph2.jpg)
Although these precautions were often neglected. Even German crosses were not painted over.
(http://i.pinimg.com/originals/1d/df/e4/1ddfe4e7cdaf4ad4fc4d689bc304f54b.jpg)
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One comment though - I assume it was personal choice to paint it all green, as opposed to just the turret? :)
All the photos I've seen, as opposed to drawings, suggest an overall colour (green) on the Panthers used in this fashion. That said, the photos were from the same unit, so practice may well have varied.
FWIW the British repainted the famous Cuckoo too.
(https://i.redd.it/2cbvpphtpxz11.jpg)
(https://cdn-live.warthunder.com/uploads/0e/21edbec9e82403b4a60b0f66ddadaea17e4f4a_mq/W-Ordnance-3-HT-Jul08-e1470679347559.jpg)
and whitewashed it for winter
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/da/95/5d/da955de069bd42e2d7fa82e98fdf76cb.jpg)
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These are tanks from the "cat company" of Lieutenant Sotnikov.
If you look at this photo, then all the panthers clearly only have a green tank turret.
(http://wio.ru/tank/capt/sov-pant-aust-a.jpg)
Large:
https://cdn.fishki.net/upload/post/201507/26/1608371/trofejnye-pantery.jpg
But in another photo one of these tanks already looks completely uniform in color:
(http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/yuripasholok/765139/15054487/15054487_original.jpg)
https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/yuripasholok/765139/15054487/15054487_original.jpg
I repeat - repainting was often not done at all. But they still used some elements for quick identification.:
(http://cdn.trinixy.ru/pics5/20150226/trofei_38.jpg)
(http://pp.userapi.com/c846218/v846218603/8fa1a/Ims7ZESSjLU.jpg)
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Really interesting and totally news to me, cheers guys
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Here you will see several examples of German tanks with Soviet markings:
http://www.wio.ru/tank/capt/capt.htm
(http://www.wio.ru/tank/capt/sov-pz43.jpg)
(http://www.wio.ru/tank/capt/sov-pz38.jpg)