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Title: The Irsh Jacobite Army in 15mm
Post by: OB on January 31, 2021, 10:31:24 AM
The first three battalions of my refurbished Irish Jacobites are now up on my blog.  Once again I’ve used a mixture of different manufacturers figures. 

There are both battalions of the Irish Foot Guards and the Earl of Clanrickard’s regiment.  There is a smidgin about the fighting at Oldbridge too.  If it’s of interest here’s the link.

https://youdonotknowthenorth.blogspot.com
Title: Re: The Irsh Jacobite Army in 15mm
Post by: has.been on January 31, 2021, 12:30:44 PM
Nice.
I always like your stuff & the information you post.
Thanks for taking the time.
Many years ago I tried to get the club I was involved in
interested in the Jacobite Wars in Ireland. I raised some
units (mainly Dixon Sedgemoor range) & played one game
with one interested opponent.  Sold the lot a few years later.
The two generals though had stones on their bases that came
from a visit to the Boyne.  I will have to revisit the Wars in Ireland.
Title: Re: The Irsh Jacobite Army in 15mm
Post by: OB on January 31, 2021, 03:36:59 PM
Thanks.  That's a nice touch with your bases.

This is my second go at the period having started in the 90s first time round.
Title: Re: The Irsh Jacobite Army in 15mm
Post by: OB on February 02, 2021, 09:37:51 AM
I was doing a little research the other day and came up with details of Christopher Fleming Lord Slane's Jacobite regiment of Foot.  I hope it is of interest to those gaming the Williamite war.

Slane's is not often seen on the table top.  It is an interesting unit all the same.  Every one of the soldiers was equipped with musket and sword.  I suspect that the muskets were mainly or all matchlocks but we don't actually know.

So far as I can tell we do not know how they were uniformed.  The high level of muskets might indicate access to red coats on the other hand French grey might be a safer bet.  Facing colours are unknown but red or yellow could be considered as these were the colours associated with the Fleming family.  Otherwise grey might do.

No one currently makes flags for Slane's regiment .  The Heraldic emblem of the Fleming's was a red chevron on a yellow field.  That would do nicely for the colonel's colour, perhaps with a red cross patee in the upper right canton.  I'm going to see what I can do.   The second colour could simply be a red saltire on a yellow field.

I'll be doing the unit alongside Bellew's and Louth's  as part of my final Jacobite infantry brigade.   They will all appear here and on my blog in due course.
Title: Re: The Irsh Jacobite Army in 15mm
Post by: has.been on February 02, 2021, 11:33:06 AM
I'd be interested to see your take on that unit.
Title: Re: The Irsh Jacobite Army in 15mm
Post by: OB on February 02, 2021, 01:33:47 PM
I'm going to have a go at the colonel's flag today.  Not really my strong suite but we will see.  I should get to the battalion next week.
Title: Re: The Irsh Jacobite Army in 15mm
Post by: jambo1 on February 02, 2021, 05:32:55 PM
Interesting regiment, never came across them before, shows my ignorance!! :)
Title: Re: The Irsh Jacobite Army in 15mm
Post by: fred on February 02, 2021, 07:15:37 PM
Good to see you refreshing these figures. My own project for this battle is very much stalled, but I would like to progress if further (but too many other projects and distractions)

Interesting information about Slane’s Regt, but as is so often for this period so many details aren’t missing.
Title: Re: The Irsh Jacobite Army in 15mm
Post by: OB on February 02, 2021, 07:55:27 PM
Interesting regiment, never came across them before, shows my ignorance!! :)

Not at all Jambo.  I hadn't either until I read an article written in 1953 for the County Louth Archaeology Society Journal. 

It details three local Jacobite regiments in the Williamite War.  Slane's and two we all know about, Bellew's and Louth's.  I'll do a blog post on what I learned once I have them painted.
Title: Re: The Irsh Jacobite Army in 15mm
Post by: OB on February 02, 2021, 08:00:31 PM
Good to see you refreshing these figures. My own project for this battle is very much stalled, but I would like to progress if further (but too many other projects and distractions)

Interesting information about Slane’s Regt, but as is so often for this period so many details aren’t missing.

Thanks Fred.  I'm enjoying it.  Though the distractions are mounting up in the usual way.

Yes, there is much still we would like to know.  All the same we are much better served for info' now than when I first had ago at the period in the 90s.
Title: Re: The Irsh Jacobite Army in 15mm
Post by: jambo1 on February 03, 2021, 05:01:54 AM
Not at all Jambo.  I hadn't either until I read an article written in 1953 for the County Louth Archaeology Society Journal. 

It details three local Jacobite regiments in the Williamite War.  Slane's and two we all know about, Bellew's and Louth's.  I'll do a blog post on what I learned once I have them painted.

Looking forward to this big style, be nice to see your take on them. :)
Title: Re: The Irsh Jacobite Army in 15mm
Post by: OB on February 03, 2021, 02:00:51 PM
Thanks Jambo.

The colonel's flag for Slane's is done.  It came out OK I think.  I'm about to start painting the battalion.  I've decided to do them in a mix or red and French grey coats.  I'll be giving them yellow facings as it will contrast well with both coat colours and mirror the main colour of the flags.

I'll rate them as a Drilled regiment for Beneath the Lily Banners.  They were out West with Sarsfield early on so had seen a bit of action.
Title: Re: The Irsh Jacobite Army in 15mm
Post by: OB on February 08, 2021, 10:15:22 AM
The Ulster brigade of King James’s Irish Jacobite Army is now up on my blog. 

I’ve gone for the Earl of Antrim’s regiment and two of the O’Neill ones- Gordon’s and Felix’s.  I’ve made Antrim’s and Gordon’s units Regulation and Drilled.  The second O’Neill formation is a more old- fashioned affair classified under Beneath the Lily Banners as Pike and Shot.  That means they have a higher ratio of pike to musket.  The muskets for all will be classified as matchlocks.

If it is of interest you can see all three on my blog.

https://youdonotknowthenorth.blogspot.com
Title: Re: The Irsh Jacobite Army in 15mm
Post by: AdamPHayes on February 08, 2021, 11:23:54 AM

No one currently makes flags for Slane's regiment .  The Heraldic emblem of the Fleming's was a red chevron on a yellow field.  That would do nicely for the colonel's colour, perhaps with a red cross patee in the upper right canton.  I'm going to see what I can do.   The second colour could simply be a red saltire on a yellow field.


There’s these ones (bottom row)...

(http://www.leagueofaugsburg.com/gallery/images/shop/195.jpg)

A bit plain, but possible....
Title: Re: The Irsh Jacobite Army in 15mm
Post by: OB on February 08, 2021, 11:56:54 AM
Yes, subsequently I came across a listing for them at Maverick Models too and Flags of War do them as well.  I should have written everyone makes them!
Title: Re: The Irsh Jacobite Army in 15mm
Post by: OB on February 12, 2021, 04:06:17 PM
I've now finished a total 11 units of Jacobite infantry and just have to finish basing them. 

Here's Lord Slane's Foot with their heraldic Fleming family chevron flag.  I need to tidy it up a bit but overall I'm happy with it.

Title: Re: The Irsh Jacobite Army in 15mm
Post by: OB on February 15, 2021, 03:42:44 PM
The first of the Irish Jacobite cavalry Sarsfield's first squadron.

Title: Re: The Irsh Jacobite Army in 15mm
Post by: OB on February 20, 2021, 12:29:04 PM
I’ve found that local history or archaeology societies to be a mine of information.  The participants are motivated and informed by their connection to their locality.  They often provide us with insights that would otherwise be overlooked. 

Back in the 1950s the Louth County Archaeology published an article on the Irish Jacobite regiments of Lords Bellew, Louth and Slane.  It contains some very interesting detail on how they were armed that I’ve summarised on my blog.  There are also some pics of the regiments in question. 

If it is of interest here’s the link.

https://youdonotknowthenorth.blogspot.com
Title: Re: The Irsh Jacobite Army in 15mm
Post by: jambo1 on February 20, 2021, 01:37:12 PM
Great find, some superb information there. Your army is taking shape very nicely. :)
Title: Re: The Irsh Jacobite Army in 15mm
Post by: OB on February 20, 2021, 02:00:16 PM
Thanks Jambo, I was delighted to find it.  I'm presuming the scythes substituted for pikes and were reckoned to be more effective than hastily made long spears.

My final Irish Jacobite infantry units will appear here next week once I have then based.
Title: Re: The Irsh Jacobite Army in 15mm
Post by: OB on February 26, 2021, 11:16:22 AM
My final two Irish Jacobite regiments of foot Talbot’s and Eustace’s are now on my blog. 

The Lord Grand Prior’s Regiment sometimes called Talbot’s Regiment contains two grenadiers I painted many years ago.  Their flag, a burning town with the warning “The Fruits of Rebellion” is memorable.  So much so that I attempted to paint it on the front of their caps.  You can see how that turned out in a close up pic.

If it is of interest here is the link.

https://youdonotknowthenorth.blogspot.com

Title: Re: The Irsh Jacobite Army in 15mm
Post by: OB on March 19, 2021, 10:42:47 AM
My Irish Jacobite Army project is nearly done.  The Horse Guards need doing and two squadrons of cavalry respectively for Sarsfield’s and Tyrconnell’s Horse.  Then I need a couple of biggish bases of horse holders for the Dragoons.  That will be it.  Galmoy’s Horse will be finished today.

I had feared breathing new life into old figures would be a chore, it proved otherwise.

Abercorn’s Horse and Clare’s Dragoons are now up on my blog.  Two squadrons for the cavalry and mounted and dismounted for the dragoons.

If it is of interest here’s the link.

https://youdonotknowthenorth.blogspot.com