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Miniatures Adventure => Medieval Adventures => Topic started by: THE CID on 03 February 2021, 10:00:03 AM

Title: Looking for help regarding King John of England.
Post by: THE CID on 03 February 2021, 10:00:03 AM
Wondering if anybody has any info on what type of horse livery, coat of arms etc would King John wear during the Baron Wars. I'm just about to start painting the new figure from Paul Hicks and Andy Hobday Kickstarter and I'm having trouble finding any images or decent info.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Looking for help regarding King John of England.
Post by: levied troop on 03 February 2021, 11:20:35 AM
At the risk of seeming obvious:
https://footsoreminiatures.co.uk/collections/barons-war-banners-decals
4th row down.

As King, John would have the 3 lions passant (I think this was adopted in 1198 as the English royal arms, before that it was 2 lions?).

As Prince John that pack has a conjectural coat of arms, he was also Count of Anjou and several other French territories as well as Marshall of Ireland so might bear any of those arms.

Title: Re: Looking for help regarding King John of England.
Post by: THE CID on 03 February 2021, 12:14:42 PM
At the risk of seeming obvious:
https://footsoreminiatures.co.uk/collections/barons-war-banners-decals
4th row down.

As King, John would have the 3 lions passant (I think this was adopted in 1198 as the English royal arms, before that it was 2 lions?).

As Prince John that pack has a conjectural coat of arms, he was also Count of Anjou and several other French territories as well as Marshall of Ireland so might bear any of those arms.
.  I should of seen that 😂.  Thanks mate.
Title: Re: Looking for help regarding King John of England.
Post by: Mindenbrush on 03 February 2021, 12:39:06 PM
The decals seem to be out of stock at the moment - the supplier Citadel Six is trying to purchase a replacement printer and is expected to be back printing decals by mid February.
Title: Re: Looking for help regarding King John of England.
Post by: olyreed on 03 February 2021, 08:28:24 PM
Flags of war have just released some Barons war standards, I believe king John's is one of them
Title: Re: Looking for help regarding King John of England.
Post by: Unlucky General on 08 February 2021, 09:03:41 PM
TC,

I believe the most reliable source for almost all English kings if you want to know what they looked like are images of their Great Seals. A Google image search will provide you with a couple of options. I rationalise that all kings were intimately involved in how they were depicted on their royal seals and that it will be an accurate portrayal of them in their war gear as they were at the time - including the horse furniture detail. John is not quite so flamboyant as his older brother.
Title: Re: Looking for help regarding King John of England.
Post by: levied troop on 09 February 2021, 08:07:40 AM
.  I should of seen that 😂.  Thanks mate.
You’re welcome - I was just worried I’d missed something obvious lol

Those Flags of War ones look nice, I can see an order going in very soon :-*

https://www.flagsofwar.com/collections/barons-war