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Title: Help finding usefull figures for portuguese in the 1890s
Post by: rumacara on 12 March 2021, 10:33:17 PM
Hello all

As if i havent nothing else to paint and convert i started another project of portuguese troops in africa in the 1890s.
Information is very scarce specially in images but i found some of a few troop types involved and am after some usefull figures.
For the infantry the closest i remember is FFL in shirts and i sculp the jacket.
The problem is with the cavalry.
Any help is welcome.

Thanks for watching

Rui
Title: Re: Help finding usefull figures for portuguese in the 1890s
Post by: Ranthony on 12 March 2021, 11:34:15 PM
Perry miniatures Sudan Egyptian Gendarmes, with a little filling of the hat may work.

https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product/sb56-egyptian-cavalry-gendarmes-carbines-on-hip/

Title: Re: Help finding usefull figures for portuguese in the 1890s
Post by: rumacara on 13 March 2021, 11:41:49 AM
Frank, good idea. Thank you.
And you made me find some others on the Perry website for other troop types. :)
Title: Re: Help finding usefull figures for portuguese in the 1890s
Post by: Diablo Jon on 13 March 2021, 12:15:12 PM
The short answer if you are looking for the 1890s Portuguese is Eureka do a very small range of metropolitan infantry in slouch hat.

a longer answer on uniforms using my Peter Abbot book on colonial African armies is

Metropolitan units official uniform

pre 1892 - Brown uniforms and pickelhaube

post 1892 - Single breasted blue uniform scarlet/crimson facings for infantry and black/light blue for cacadores. Blue Kepi with white cover in the field. Light blue trousers with piping and black boots. equipment in black leather. A fatigure outfit in white brim was also supplied and frequently worn in the colonies. greatcoats could be worn bandolier fashion.

post 1895 - as above but grey felt slouch hats become common head dress (in Mozambique at least). A blue flannel blusa and blue grey breeches was common among cavalry in southern Mozambique

post 1900 - officers could wear khaki drill uniforms with sun helmets and troops revert to kepi and haverlock.

local indigena troops

Could look a lot less uniform the book has a picture of one that looks like a foundry Askari wearing a kepi and another in a uniform similar to the metropolitan troops but with knee length trousers and no shoes.

I made a couple of indigena troops for 1870s-1880s Mozambique using a foundry Askari and a Perry miniatures Paraguayan infantryman with Perry ACW coloured soldiers heads in kepi something similar in white uniform should work for the 1890s.

(https://jonsotherwargamesblog.files.wordpress.com/2020/10/img_20201015_194757196.jpg)

(https://jonsotherwargamesblog.files.wordpress.com/2020/10/img_20201015_194733737.jpg)



Title: Re: Help finding usefull figures for portuguese in the 1890s
Post by: rumacara on 13 March 2021, 02:42:19 PM
Diablo Jon, thank you for the tips. :)
The ones i´m planning are those illustrated above with some askari auxilia.
Plan is 4 to 6 cavalry, 8 regular infantry and the rest askari. A small column for Congo rules.
Also in use for another one only dismounted is some regulars, the rest being white farmers/volunteers and askari or other native auxilia.
The third one, all mounted, if the rules allow. :)
Title: Re: Help finding usefull figures for portuguese in the 1890s
Post by: Diablo Jon on 13 March 2021, 05:42:54 PM
Thinking outside the box a bit some of Wargames Foundry old west Mexicans could work as scruffy (and lets face it Europeans in Africa are likely to be a bit scruffy) Europeans in light kit.

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1505/0474/products/OW176_1024x1024.jpg?v=1582920957)



Title: Re: Help finding usefull figures for portuguese in the 1890s
Post by: skirmisher on 13 March 2021, 05:57:00 PM
Thank you Rui for posting those drawings of the Portugese colonial soldiers in Foreign Legion style attire.

The reason is I have a FFL force gathering dust as it lacks opposition (a terrible neglect on my part) but I now see I.could give them an outing and use them in a game with my Southern African forces.

Good luck with your project.
Title: Re: Help finding usefull figures for portuguese in the 1890s
Post by: rumacara on 13 March 2021, 08:32:56 PM
Skirmisher, do please post some pictures of your miniatures.
I love to see other peoples miniatures and terrain. :)
Title: Re: Help finding usefull figures for portuguese in the 1890s
Post by: skirmisher on 14 March 2021, 10:21:32 AM
Its been a long while since I have posted a battle report... I am technologically jaded/challenged in this regard :)   ...though a friend has been pestering me to set up a blog and keep a record of my battles. A project for 2021...
Title: Re: Help finding usefull figures for portuguese in the 1890s
Post by: marco55 on 12 April 2021, 03:23:15 AM
This might help.  http://kingscarbine.blogspot.com/ 
Mark
Title: Re: Help finding usefull figures for portuguese in the 1890s
Post by: marco55 on 12 April 2021, 03:38:13 AM
http://www.portugalweb.net/historia/viriatus/CAfrica1894_01.asp.htm
http://www.portugalweb.net/historia/viriatus/OfCav1895_1.asp.htm
http://www.portugalweb.net/historia/viriatus/uniformes.asp.htm
Title: Re: Help finding usefull figures for portuguese in the 1890s
Post by: rumacara on 12 April 2021, 08:35:15 PM
Marco55 that will help for sure.
Many thanks.
And i forgot that Nuno Pereira did a lot of research.
Title: Re: Help finding usefull figures for portuguese in the 1890s
Post by: marco55 on 12 April 2021, 11:25:49 PM
Nuno is # 1 on this topic. :)
Mark
Title: Re: Help finding usefull figures for portuguese in the 1890s
Post by: marco55 on 13 April 2021, 01:00:13 AM
Some uniform charts.
Mark
Title: Re: Help finding usefull figures for portuguese in the 1890s
Post by: marco55 on 13 April 2021, 01:02:20 AM
Some more.
Mark
Title: Re: Help finding usefull figures for portuguese in the 1890s
Post by: rumacara on 13 April 2021, 10:12:30 AM
Mark, thank you for posting these.
Very usefull. :)
Title: Re: Help finding usefull figures for portuguese in the 1890s
Post by: marco55 on 13 April 2021, 01:16:47 PM
Your welcome.
Mark