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Title: Battalion:
Post by: Harry Faversham on 13 March 2021, 12:16:03 PM
Battalion: British Infantry Unit's Actions from El Alamein to the Elbe, 1942-45

I'm thinking of adding this to my collection, has anyone read it? The book contains accounts of small scale Infantry actions, I just wondered if these might make good wargame scenarios?

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Title: Re: Battalion:
Post by: Jemima Fawr on 13 March 2021, 12:36:53 PM
Yes, it's a very good battalion history, being specifically about the 5th Battalion, Seaforth Highlanders.  The maps are ok and there's enough detail for lots of scenario ideas.  I'd read it alongside Delaforce's 'Monty's Highlanders' (51 HD History).
Title: Re: Battalion:
Post by: Eclaireur on 13 March 2021, 12:46:07 PM
+1 really Harry.
It's very well written, an engaging story. There's an action in Sicily against a force of German paras holding a village which is told in considerable detail. A few times been tempted to turn that into a scenario. There's an action during the Tunisian campaign that might also be suitable.
EC 
Title: Re: Battalion:
Post by: Harry Faversham on 13 March 2021, 12:48:06 PM
Thanks chaps, absolutely spiffing!

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Title: Re: Battalion:
Post by: has.been on 13 March 2021, 02:27:03 PM
Harry, another good book to read, especially for a
tanker's eye view of 8th Army, is 'From El Alamein
to Zem Zem'  Don't remember the author's name
 though.
Title: Re: Battalion:
Post by: Andrew_McGuire on 13 March 2021, 02:47:27 PM
Harry, another good book to read, especially for a
tanker's eye view of 8th Army, is 'From El Alamein
to Zem Zem'  Don't remember the author's name
 though.

That’s by the poet Keith Douglas, who was killed in Normandy.
Title: Re: Battalion:
Post by: has.been on 13 March 2021, 03:58:52 PM
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That’s by the poet Keith Douglas, who was killed in Normandy.

Thanks for that Andrew.
Title: Re: Battalion:
Post by: Jemima Fawr on 13 March 2021, 04:28:32 PM
That’s by the poet Keith Douglas, who was killed in Normandy.
Funnily enough, I took Eclaireur (above) to the site of his death.
Title: Re: Battalion:
Post by: Truscott Trotter on 15 March 2021, 01:01:55 AM
EDIT: Ha found it on kindle
https://www.amazon.com.au/kindle-dbs/thankYouPage?_encoding=UTF8&a=A524B1WEJG9SV&action=&asin=B00R88T3NW&noDevicePurchaseAllowed=&subtype=FREE_CHAPTER&targetFiona=A524B1WEJG9SV
amazon has some interesting pricing on this one
   
Price
New from   Used from
Hardcover   

$768.57   $987.25
Paperback   

$768.57   $768.57
Paperback, December 31, 2000
$5.00
—   $5.00

and in UK

Amazon Price
New from   Used from
Hardcover   
£50.94
—   £50.94
Paperback   

—   £60.99
Not available in Oz
So its Abebooks then?
Title: Re: Battalion:
Post by: Harry Faversham on 15 March 2021, 01:34:58 AM
Mine's a hardback copy, fifteen quid off fleabay.

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Title: Re: Battalion:
Post by: Truscott Trotter on 15 March 2021, 03:44:19 AM
Mine's a hardback copy, fifteen quid off fleabay.

 :)
Well you could sell it on Amazon for  tidy sum one day!
Have bought the kindle edition (3 quid) and started to read it , cracking stuff.
Title: Re: Battalion:
Post by: Melnibonean on 17 March 2021, 09:19:44 PM
I read this book a long time ago (over 20 years). I recall that it is a great book. Some of the outstanding elements that I remember are the unit actions in North Africa, particularly when they got caught in an enfiladed position in a wadi. I also remember the part about morale in 1944/'45. They were, by that time, a veteran unit and part of the 7th Armoured but the attitude was that they had done their bit and now it was someone else's turn. Veterans; but unwilling to to undertake any further fighting.
Title: Re: Battalion:
Post by: Harry Faversham on 18 March 2021, 02:53:38 PM
Book's just arrived, a nice read for the weekend.

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Title: Re: Battalion:
Post by: Harry Faversham on 19 March 2021, 11:30:03 AM
The Battalion's reached Alamein. I can feel a desert game coming on already!

(https://www.thewargameswebsite.com/wp-content/uploads/hm_bbpui/135624/5jai8rm4parotg4jwh97da3negu88khr.jpg)

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Title: Re: Battalion:
Post by: Harry Faversham on 20 March 2021, 09:53:33 AM
Another little tome has peaked my interest, I cannot find much information about it though. The book's called:-

Hell Will Not Wait by John Crawford

Can anyone help with a small review please?

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Title: Re: Battalion:
Post by: Harry Faversham on 03 April 2021, 08:26:31 AM
Just finished the book, very sobering read I found the final chapter deeply moving, nobody suffered quite like The PBI. I did not find anything in the book to support this statement made by Melnibonean...

'the attitude was that they had done their bit and now it was someone else's turn.'

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Title: Re: Battalion:
Post by: Jemima Fawr on 03 April 2021, 09:12:52 AM
He may have been thinking of other books on similar subjects.  For example, Mark Urban's book 'The Tank War' (and accompanying TV series 'Tankies'), which followed 5 RTR through WW2 from France to North Africa, back to the UK and then to Normandy and Germany included a lot of primary evidence regarding those attitudes, including diary entries made at the time, as well as interviews with the veterans.  He also did a lot of research into disciplinary records, Courts Martial and medical stats re shell-shock to see if there was any difference in the mental state of Africa veterans in Normandy compared to the others.